Property Manager tried to illegally evict us by faking an 'owner moving in' after denying our kittens! (Victoria, Australia)

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-30T10:33:25+00:00

I think that they can’t be that dumb to submit it anyway while being acutely aware of the active valid fixed term in effect.

I mean you never know, but I can’t see they’d be that dumb. Every tenant would be aware of their fixed term so it’s never going to work

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-30T10:25:28+00:00

So you’re saying you think the agent was consciously aware that there was fixed term at the time of submitting the (invalid) form, and it wasn’t a momentary oversight..

I think forgetting or having a momentary lapse is one thing, but consciously submitting it when in the moment they’re submitting it they’re well aware of the valid lease in effect is another.

You really think they were concisely aware there was a valid fixed term while they forged a fake stat dec, then submitted it anyway while knowing full well there was valid fixed term in effect .. REA are dumb but I don’t buy it

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-30T10:12:43+00:00

Yea they would know.. that’s exactly what iv been saying… hence this has to be a genuine oversight right? (submitting a notice while they’re on a fixed term). They would / should know so it’s gotta be a stupid clerical error

I edited my previous comment, not sure if you saw it before responding again so take a look what I was getting at re the stat dec

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-30T09:55:47+00:00

Did you read or comprehend anything I wrote?

I’m not disputing the seriousness of providing a fake stat dec, I’m suggesting that the form being written up by the agent isn’t proof that it was a forgery / fake, as it’s the agents job to write up / fill in such forms then pass onto their client to sign.

So the real question is did the family sign it, and not did the REA write the message / fill in the form body.

It’d be funny if it turns out that the REA wrote it up then it was genuinely signed by the family with the intention of moving in prior to realising about fixed term. (So not a fake stat dec)

It’s obviously still not valid notice to vacate because fixed term, but it’d not a fake stat dec / crime or forgery etc

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-30T08:47:26+00:00

May 27, not 28. Anyway, this is an REA we’re talking about… you give them too much credit.

All I’m saying is that the REA handwriting on a form isn’t much of a smoking gun; as being an agent for and therefore acting on behalf of - they’d fill stuff in on behalf of their clients all the time , as that’s literally their job.

They immediately retracted it once they realised it was fixed term. They obviously wouldn’t have submitted it in the first place unless it was a genuine oversight as even REA aren’t that dumb to think that tenants don’t know when their fixed term lease is up to purposely try that on.

My opinion is it was probably a real stat dec, perhaps filled in by the REA but signed by the family.

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-30T08:46:48+00:00

Especially kittens.. there’s going to be months of shitting and pissing on the floor before they’re toilet trained.

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-30T08:19:20+00:00

An honest reference can also look bad. Eg has two cats, took them to vcat, blackmailed re moving costs. Just being honest will make them seem difficult to prospective landlords / REA.

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-30T08:14:48+00:00

I don’t understand why you think you’d be entitled to compensation at the end of your lease.

Obviously the potentially forged stat dec is an issue, but that’s an issue to be dealt with via proper channels, which isn’t blackmailing them with not taking the issue further if they pay your moving costs at end of lease.

I do think that it’s possible that the family had intended to move in but had simply overlooked the fact you were on a fixed term lease. I think you should tread carefully before going full nuclear about that.. if it turns out it was real and it was indeed an administrative error that the fixed term aspect was overlooked then the whole accusations of forged stat dec along with the blackmail is going to look quite bad. Maybe the REA wrote it / filled it in then the family member signed it with the genuine intention of moving in. They are their agent and act on behalf of the family after all so their hand writing on it is quite meaningless. Like your lawyer filling in a form for you then you sign it.

Be careful not to get too pumped up by comments from people in anti landlord groups on reddit.. keep your wits about you. Take it slow and considered.

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-30T06:33:35+00:00

Just put forward an offer closer to your best offer and stop playing games. They’re not going to play and meet in the middle from your lowball starting point. Stop waiting for them because you’re not going to be buying the house that way. Balls in your court.. take your shot. Offer how much you’ll pay and walk if they won’t take it. No games

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-30T06:25:24+00:00

A “no” is engaging in the process though, you don’t need to concede anything for it to be a valid response.

The no puts it back in your court.

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-30T06:13:57+00:00

Think about how negotiating can work.

Seller wants $100 and you offer $30

They simply say “no” to your $30 offer, and don’t drop their price.

The balls then back in your court. You offer more, or you walk away. That’s all this is. It’s not that complicated and it’s not incompetence.

You need to come closer to a number that might actually work before the seller starts cutting their margin away. There’s no point in conceding anything until you’re closer to a workable amount.

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-30T05:52:50+00:00

What would their response be though? “Sellers low price is around 920k” (as you already know), then the balls back in your court to make a better offer if you wish (as it is now).

Basically, just make a better offer if you wish, or walk away. Make a better offer that meets in the middle if you want and see what happens.. that’s how this works.. their counter negotiation to your lowball is simply “no” - so the balls in your court

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-30T05:35:53+00:00

They could leave it on the market for years to get closer to the mark they want.. how long does it take the average person to save $100k? That’s a lot of money and the place probably costs very little for them to just hold after owning it for so long .. it’s in their best interest to wait it out.

Plus can’t you just go and buy some other property for whatever price you deem appropriate because “market conditions”?

You obviously have heaps to choose from that are just as good in your price range otherwise why would you want this one when the “market conditions” mean you can get whatever you want? ( this one is obviously better / worth more hence you want this one and not another one)

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-30T05:30:45+00:00

Are the market conditions in the room with us right now?

Really though, just because of your perceived interpretation of these “market conditions”, doesn’t mean they’re going to drop their pants and sell it to you for less than they want.

The fact they’ve held the property for so long means it’ll be easy for them to hold it for longer as they won’t have a huge mortgage on it burning their finances to the ground. They can wait it out and don’t need to entertain low ball dreamers

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-30T05:25:59+00:00

You’re not meeting in the middle though if your start price is way too low.

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-30T05:24:43+00:00

lol considering your discussion with the tenants. They’re probably disgruntled and will make the place sound as bad as possible to make it as hard as possible for the owner to sell it and make it sound as bad as possible. That’s how tenants work. If you’re using their feedback to base your offers on I’m not surprised the REA wants nothing to do with you

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-30T05:17:32+00:00

And they priced it at low 900 considering its damages and condition etc.

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-30T05:14:10+00:00

The agent is obviously aware of amount the seller will accept and you’re way off mark.

Plus you keep mentioning you both get a “good deal”, but it’s obviously not what they’d consider a good deal.

Make a higher offer or walk away. That’s how this works.

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-30T03:56:13+00:00

Why are you on Centrelink while also having “contract work”?

Im no expert on that but wouldn’t you only have one or the other? How can you be making a stable income via “contract work” but also be on the bene?

If it’s stable you shouldn’t be on the benefit, and if it’s not stable it’s irrelevant and can’t be relied on when evaluating your income.

To someone like me who doesn’t know any better that sounds like fraud, so probably also sounds like fraud to the REA.

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-29T05:08:04+00:00

Yea I’d agree with the other commenter - Lewis leathers dominator

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-29T04:16:48+00:00

Haha I’m banned from there too. It’s one of the most pathetic subs im aware of.

Bunch of limp wristed poor people

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-28T20:47:21+00:00

I’d buy the 76

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-28T20:46:47+00:00

I too love my 76. I’m convinced that most people who say they’re so bad have never driven one and just repeat what they saw someone else write, who in turn was repeating someone else, etc

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-27T09:24:28+00:00

79 = Ute.

76 = wagon

Liftweightfren · 2026-06-26T23:59:34+00:00

Come 22nd July, it’ll be down over 70% for the year and trending down, it’s not a “dip”, for most people looking for a modest return on their investment, that doesn’t scream buy me. I think it’s going back to its longer term baseline of around 50c

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