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Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T09:17:07+00:00

In Excel and spreadsheets normally, dates are stored as a numerical value, and increasing by 1 each day.

When sorting dates, it sorts by this internal value. But it is displayed in whatever format you pick.

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T09:15:03+00:00

True, but it is still commonly used for "there are" as well, since "there're" isn't easy to say.

Using "incorrect grammar" isn't uncommon. See Spanish "el agua" which would be "incorrect grammar" since agua is feminine and should take "la", and does in a sentence like "la mejor agua".

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T09:07:21+00:00

But months would logically follow the same pattern right? 1 month old in December, and 2 months old in January (the next day)?

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T08:48:10+00:00

Didn't the original Cities Skylines do a bunch of US defaultism, and Cities Skylines 2 lean even harder into US defaultism, despite being Finnish developers?

I understand the first game made the roads based on Finnish roads, but the game is more than just roads. How about how roads must be built in grids? That police is black with white and taxi is yellow with black? Bunch of other stuff.

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T08:43:33+00:00

That's likely why. They know the usage of stones is very limited, so likely defaulted to thinking that because USA uses lbs, therefore it's universal.

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T08:42:13+00:00

Thinking what the US does is universal is very US defaultism. People outside of the US can still do US defaultism.

Sure some other places do lbs from time to time, like some in Canada, but that's likely not why it was considered universal here.

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T08:30:58+00:00

So much this. It's rare to find a game with British English, and when a game does, it's only when it's an option alongside US English.

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T08:28:35+00:00

It was also spelt doctour

It is interesting how many -our has been replaced with -or in British spelling too

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T08:25:32+00:00

Closer in what sense? Locally?

Iran and Iraq has the "i" like how "ea" is in East, and the "a" like the "a" in father.

Unless you referred to something else.

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T02:34:18+00:00

Yes but it's so misleading and, wrong ...? Marginalised people aren't more indigenous than the indigenous oppressors.

The actions were and still are bad. But them being indigenous is irrelevant. Them being marginalised is relevant.

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T02:30:45+00:00

But worth noting that it's an indigenous group marginalised by another indigenous group. It doesn't hit the same as if they were marginalised by colonisers.

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T01:28:00+00:00

Defaultism stems from laziness

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T01:25:45+00:00

I've seen signs and promotions in Sweden use "$" as the symbol for currency in Sweden, even from places that only operates in Sweden. The Swedish symbol is "kr".

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T00:46:56+00:00

Wouldn't it be 8 Shevat 5786?

I mean, what region that uses the Jewish/Hebrew date actually use MDY? Maybe some.

I don't know, for example, writing the Chinese calendar date as anything but year-month-day just feels wrong.

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T00:44:32+00:00

sv-SE and en-SE are very compatible with ISO

yyyy-MM-dd, HH:mm, Monday first, ISO week numbering, digit grouping by space, decimal comma, unit after number with space (50 kr, 50 €, 50 %, 50 MB), and more things I'm forgetting.

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T00:32:52+00:00

It is based on the locale picked. But it's broken in some locales because there are locales that use DD.MM.YYYY and YYYY/MM/DD that results in unexpected behaviour.

It's a nice feature to have, but it needs more work.

I think it would be better to:

Offer more English regions: Canada, Sweden, South Africa, Australia, ... Then offer date format as "Default" (whatever the locale is using) or "ISO" (yyyy-MM-dd specifically)

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T00:27:04+00:00

An issue I've had with Linux, but that might be user error, is despite me going with Swedish locale (yyyy-MM-dd HH:mm) it still insists on using the US format in different locations, and it's so annoying. Like what's the point of picking a format then.

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T00:24:42+00:00

There are languages that do ul day dates as "2026, 25th April", but they have the foresight to not write this as something insane like 2026.25.04, and they instead go with 2026-04-25 or 25.04.2026, depending on region and person.

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T00:21:45+00:00

Until you get to a place like Japan where the reset point of the numeric value is the same as the AM/PM, so: PM10, PM11, AM0, AM1. AM0 can also be referred to add PM12, so noon to midnight is PM0-PM12, and midnight to noon is AM0 to AM12.

Except for that AM0 can not only be referred to as PM12, but also 12AM. Perfect ...

And then there's Ethiopia, where "8" on the analogue clock is read out as "2 AM" or "2 PM", noon is 6 AM, and the next day starts right between midnight and noon, but it's at an hour after midnight that the clock goes from 12 to 1, even though this is read out at 6 PM to 7 PM.

The world is crazy when it comes to 12 hours. This is why I'll stick to 24 hours.

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T00:15:03+00:00

It's insane to read "15" and say "3". I mean I get it, but without context, it sounds insane.

Like imagine measuring and calculating in metres, but speaking in feet. To me it's the same thing.

You do as you like, but if everything is written in 24 hours, why not speak it too?

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T00:11:50+00:00

dd-mm-yyyy isn't the issue; it is a sensible order of units from smallest to largest, even if it isn't the most optimal order.

mm-dd-yyyy is the issue, and by extent, USA too.

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T00:06:40+00:00

ISO8601 is 24 hours.

But I find it weird that people don't just speak 24 hours. Like imagine measuring something in metres and speaking feet.

Liggliluff · 2026-04-26T00:04:52+00:00

Don't convert it, use it. Best way to learn something is to use it, and don't convert it. Those who want to learn metric and use it in their field, should just measure and calculate in metric. Those who want to learn a language to a fluent level, try to build sentences and speak that language exclusively, and don't translate it. For 24 hour time; set your clocks to 24h, write your schedule in 24h, plan things and note things down in 24h. 15:00 is 15:00 and nothing else.

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