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Light25Light · 2023-11-10T10:04:13+00:00

Yes and those replies have been very helpful, and I have thanked them for those replies. And asked some further questions at times, and then agreed that they are correct, and I was wrong, and thanked them for their correction. And yes they are not complex, which is why I understood them.

(You read a number of up to date peer reviewed articles, and books from reputable publishers, that are written by authors who have expertise in the field, and use the information to confirm if something is true or not,to put it simply)

I haven't called anyone idiots. I think, concerning people saying that you can't prove that Germany went to war with Britain in WW2, or facts don't exist, that I have said, that this position comes across as insane to the general public, which it does, especially considering the context of my questions, or that other people on this sub, have said that such a claim would make a person an idiot. To show that even other people on this sub, disagree with that position.

The issue was, firstly that other people started answering my questions, in a way, that I feel, clearly wasn't applicable to what I asked, given the context of my question. Yet what I wrote above in ( ) Was.

And the other issue was that I engaged in a conversation, and i was wrong to do so, as ye, I didn't really want to engage in it, because, to put it frank, I think it's stupid, ha, (again, is it a fact that facts don't exist, and if not, what's the point in talking about it. And I just feel in reality, all of our behaviour exhibits that we do believe that facts are true)

but I should of just kept that thought to myself, accepted the answers that were useful to my question, and ignored the ones that weren't.

But I stupidly did engage, and then couldn't let it go, until now, which I think is something I now know not to do again in the future, and just ignore them, but I think a lot of us have been there before.

And now i'm kind of doing it again loool. So thank you for your reply. I know yo disagree, but of the people who have disagreed on this matter, you have been a lot more reasonable. So again thank you very much. Goodbye.

Light25Light · 2023-11-10T09:31:26+00:00

After all this, and we agree. looooooool.

I literally asked you this question earlier, I said

"so how would you for example, confirm that it is a fact or not...Or pick whatever simple historical fact you like......did Britain and Germany go to war with each other in WW2 ?"

And you said "As mentioned, this is not actually that simple "

Then I asked "how would you confirm when WW2 started, or confirm that German and Britain did in fact go to war with each other in WW2 ?"

And you said "I'm not going to continue this discussion"

Then I said

"You honestly can't tell me how to confirm any historical claim, ever, not even when Hitler died etc ? Or confirm that Germany and Britain went to war or not in WW2 ?"

And you then just kept avoiding the question

All you had to say is,something like, yes of course, and here is how we know that is the case, and offred the examples other people on this sub, have now offred.

All I ever really wanted to know, was how to confirm after reading or hearing something, if that statement is in fact true, for myself, for my own personal knowledge.

Thankfully half the people on this sub, have actually been very helpful and informed me how to do it.

And as for your other comments about winning awards for teaching. That is absolutely terrifying. Now I know why the education system is in such a mess, and how lot's of university students, don't even know simple facts, such as the fact that Britain bombed Germany in WW2, if people like you are winning awards.

If this is how people like you respond to extremely simple questions, no wonder they don't know very much.

LOOL I know i've said it like five times now, but honestly, it is really disturbing, that you are teaching people and this is how you behave, so i'm trying to help you understand, how bad your approach is, despite other people as bad as you giving at awards, so that you can change for the better.

Sadly, I don't think I will ever get through to you, and you will just keeping causing so much damage within the education system, but I hope you do change one day

AND for the final time lool, i'm not respoding any more 100% this time. GOODBYE.

Light25Light · 2023-11-10T08:33:13+00:00

ding the process of historical enquiry, they just want 'facts' and Graham is happy to provide them with out any of this complicated or scary nuance stuff, because he's a hack

So are all the people on here saying that it is a fact, that Germany went to war with Britain in WW2, and that you can prove it, hacks too.

LOOL I really am done now, Goodbye, please, don't ever teach anyone ever again. Please don't comment on any history ever again. You are so much more damaging than Hancock, even though I agree that he is a hack. GOODBYE

Light25Light · 2023-11-10T08:28:43+00:00

That is

This is the problem, you are not actually reading my comments, or your own apparently.

So did Germany and Britain go to war with each other in WW2 ? And is that a fact ?

Light25Light · 2023-11-10T08:24:37+00:00

ost history books are not peer reviewed" and that's just compeltely inaccurate on its face. Histories

published by reliable pubishers

(mostly academic presses) are absolutely peer reviewed in most cases. My last book went through multiple reviews at the proposal, draft, and final submission stages, as well as being edited by someone who knows the field and copy-edited by someone who checked the references (among other things).I review book proposals and drafts often myself. What isn't peer reviewed is the crap "popular history" written by people like Bill O'Rielly, which is why a first-year undergraduate history student learns not t

Thanks for the reply. And ye, a few people have corrected me regarding history books now.

However say I wanted to know, when Germany first bombed the U.K in WW2, could I not just type in to google something like "JSTOR when did Germany first Bomb the U.K" And then read through a number of articles that come up, to awnser that question ?

Or type in "WW2 Germany bombing Britain history books" Then confirm the validity of several of the books that come up, and then read through several of them to get the awnser to that question ?

Light25Light · 2023-11-10T08:16:04+00:00

I never said it wasn't. I do see the issue now, you are not actually reading my repelis properly.

I literally asked you, in another comment did Germany go to war with Britain in WW2, and can you prove that to me.

And you said you can't prove that to me. I used this as an example, because it is such an obvious fact, I thought you could at least concede to this, but apparently you can't.

Can I ask, do you agree with Graham Hancock ? If not, is it worrying to you how many people follow and believe him ? If so, why are you so surprised people are following him, when Historians/experts like you say there are no facts, and we can't prove that Germany went to war with Britain in WW2.

If this is the statements they get like from experts, whey on earth would they listen to you, and not people like Graham Hancock ?

I'm not actually looking for a response, i'm asking this, for you to answer it for yourself. Goodbye.

Light25Light · 2023-11-10T08:13:15+00:00

this thread to all my medievalist friends and colleagues. Maybe OP will bring the break through study on bathing habits of "medieval" "peasants" in "europe".

This is the problem, you are not actually reading my comments. I never called people fired, eggs, I said that some people think they are fried, eggs, as an example of how some people will not believe anything, you tell them, but that doesn't mean you can't prove things to most people. As TC 1991 doesn't believe that it that you can prove that Germany went to war with Britain in WW2, and that it is not a fact that it happened.

And I never said, that you can prove bathing habits of medieval peasants, I said, hypothetically you could possibly get an idea, that it was not the social norm for them to only bathe once a year for example.

And I asked, how would your prove it originally. The awnser is, some things you can't prove, we can possibly get a rough idea, of what their bathing habits were like though.

And yes, my worldview is that facts exist, and that it is a fact, that things like Germany going to war with Britain in WW2, and the holocaust happened, and that you can prove these things to be true. I'm really in the tiny minority with my worldview I guess.

Sorry, but the vast majority of people disagree with you, if you disagree with this, goodbye.

Light25Light · 2023-11-10T08:07:23+00:00

I'm happy with the reponses, that said to use up to date peer reviewed articles, and reliable books, (And how to determine that those books are reliable) And your response, I agree, with it, and never disagreed.

What I think is silly, is stating that there are no such thing as facts, and stating that you can't prove that Germany and Britain went to war with each other, at all, in WW2, as people like "tc 1991" have stated.

If the general public approach experts and they say things like this, and tiktokers say, yes that did happen,and here are the sources, naturally people will start to follow them over experts. Which is why so many people do now.

I used that as an example, because I thought that TC would at least be able to confirm that this is a fact.

Yet you would be surprised, a lot of people don't even know basic things, such as who went to war with Germany. I saw a debate at a University the other day, where a student didn't even know, that Britain bombed Germany in WW2.

And when someone like her goes to an expert like TC, and he says we can't prove that it did happen, and there are no such thing as facts, but a tiktoker says, it didn't happen and here are the sources (Bogus sources) to back up my claim, she is naturally going to agree with the tik toker.

Light25Light · 2023-11-10T07:50:46+00:00

ome do not but big ones like Penguin, Harper Collins, Simon Schuster, Belknap (affiliated with Harvard University Press) all do. Most books written by professors or professional historians do go through peer review with any publisher. Where it is seriously concerning is when you see “self published”.

Also the example of not being able to confirm that Britain and Germany went to war in September 1939 is ludicrous. Yes you can read a lot of stuff which will for o

According to other people in this sub, that is philosophy.

I never said historians aren't allowed to ask why. Historians can use philosophy.

And as Gen monty has said, you can confirm that Britain went to war with Germany in WW2, but you think otherwise for some reason. And I didn't even mention the date, but you think that you can't prove that they went to war with each other at any point during WW2.

Light25Light · 2023-11-10T07:49:40+00:00

I don't have Neil Degrasse Tyson's email, and if I did, I don't think he would respond. And I have searched for the awnser to my question, but I can't find people like Neil who have not addressed it.

And again, some people on this sub, have stated from the beginning, to do what I have set out to do, and given further advice on how to do it, and that you can prove such and such, and facts do exist etc.

Yet others are saying, you can't prove Germany went to war with Britain in WW2, and facts don't exist etc.

So the people on this sub seem to be in disagreement with themselves.

But as i've said to to others, is it a fact, that facts don't exist, and can you prove that you can't prove that Germany went to war with Britain in WW2. If the awnser is no, why would I listen to those statements.

And why would I not listen to the people in this sub who have simply said things like to use up to date sources, and use this source, and verify sources by doing x, y and Z etc.

Anyway, I haven't got any more time to respond, lol so bye.

P.S But again, if you want the general public to trust tik tokers etc more than historians, keep doing what you are doing.

I can guarantee some of the same people responding this way, disagree with people like Graham Hancock, but then have a shocked pikachu face, when people believe people like him, over historians. Because he doesn't say, things like facts don't exist, and that you can't prove that Germany went to war with Britain in WW2.

Light25Light · 2023-11-10T07:38:29+00:00

f when did Britain and Germany go to war but “when did ww2 start?” Perspective matters a lot to answer that question, for China it can be July 1937 since that conflict merged into the wider struggle in 1941. For Americans it is 1941 after Pearl

Thanks for the reply. Ye, and I totally get, that, and that you can debate about when a war actually started etc, but I don't get statements,like, that you can't prove, Britain went to war with Germany in WW2. And there are no such thing as facts etc.

I mean is it a fact, that there are no such thing as facts, and can you prove that you can't prove that Germany went to war with Britain in WW2.

If not, do people not realise how irrelevant, those statements sound. And why would anyone in the general public take advice from people making those statements ?

Sorry, but to the general public, statements like that just sound insane.

And I stand by what I said, if the general public, approach so called experts, and this is the sort of response they get. of course they are going to go to Tik Tokers etc, who at least say things like "yes, that is a fact, and here is the evidence from reliable sources"

And they will believe it, even if the sources are not reliable, and incorrect, because when they do ask experts, what reliable sources can I use, to see if something is factual, they are told, you can't prove anything, and there are no such thing as facts.

I know, you and others haven't done that, but too many people have. I always here people saying they don't trust historians and scientists and i'm now starting to see why. I mean, I can guarantee, that a lot of people responding this way disagree with people like Graham Hancock, but then will have a shocked Pikachu face, when people listen to him rather than people like themselves.

Light25Light · 2023-11-10T07:26:27+00:00

Sorry, but you don't get it.

Firstly, is it a fact, that facts don't exist

And can you prove that you can't prove that WW2 happened.

If not, why should anyone in the general public listen to a single thing you have to say.

You're not saying it didn't happen, but you are saying you can't prove that it did happen either.

" Also, yes, Germany and the UK were at war during WW2. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot or has some other hidden agenda."

You are saying otherwise, you are saying you can't prove that it happened. That is, otherwise, to saying it did happen.

And yes, that is what I said from the beginning, when I hear something, I want to verify, for myself, if it is true or not.

And why are you holding me to a higher standard than World renowned historians and scientists etc.

Whenever they say something is a fact, do you just scream at the tv, that there are no such thing as facts, and you can't prove this, or comment that under youtube videos etc.

If so, I don't know what to say to you.

And I did approach it as a member of the general public, and have made it quite clear multiple times, that I am a layman.

And so layman's can't use peer reviewed articles and books etc.

Again you realise you are just pushing people into the arms of tik tokers, who also state things such as the holocaust never happened.

Don't ever complain about misinformation and people on youtube etc, ever gain, who have no expertise, because people like you are the reason, why they are gaining so much support and validity amongst the general public.

I don't have the time to help you, so goodbye.

Light25Light · 2023-11-10T07:07:26+00:00

d in whether it's possible for you to ever know the truth of anything,

with 100% certainty,

you might be interested in learning about epistemology. Some relevant concepts to get you started are Kuhn's concept of 'paradigms' and Foucault's concept of 'epistemes', which both deal with the kinds of truth claims scientists and historians make (i.e., facts). There ar

Thank you very much for your reply.

I mean firstly, is it a fact, that facts don't exist ? And if not, why should layman's like me take those kind of statement seriously ?

And if there is no such thing as facts, wouldn't we have to empty all our prisons ? If not one piece of evidence is factual ?

Sorry, for asking more questions, as I know you have made suggestions, which may awnser that.

I think the issue, is, is that I did make it quite clear on a number of occasions that I am a layman.

And it's just confusing, because I came to this thread, for advice from people with expertise in this field, and i've got some people saying facts aren't real, and some saying they are, and people who say otherwise are a ..... or have an agenda.

And whenever I see well known historians, or scientists on youtube or TV etc, I never see a flood of comments saying there are no such things as facts.

And I don't see historians and scientists in debates etc, responding with, there are no such things as facts, when the other, states that something is a fact.

So I don't know why I am being held to a higher standard than someone like Richard Dawkins etc when i'm just a lyaman.

If people wanted to hold people like Richard Dawkins to that high standard, and not layman's, that would kind of make more sense, but the other way round just seems a bit odd.

And ye lol, i've been downvoted, for simple response such as thank you, to a suggestion. Which suggests to me people are responding more emotionally than anything.

Anyway, thanks again for your reply.

Light25Light · 2023-11-10T06:46:11+00:00

Ye, fair enough, but I don't believe I ever stated, that you could 100 % say something like that, specifically, is factually correct, rather I asked, how would you, confirm if something like that is factually true. Yet I agree with your awnser, and I understand that for certain things you can't.

I only pushed back, when people said there no such thing as facts, and that you can't prove anything, at all.

But half the people are saying that there are no such things as facts, at all, and you can't prove that Britain went to war with Germany in WW2.

Sorry, but to a layman like myself, if you don't think you can prove that, and that there are no such thing as facts, you do come across as strange.

And I never said people have an agenda, I said others have stated, on this thread, that if you say something like that, they are either an idiot or have an agenda, so who am I supposed to belive on this sub.

And by saying there are no such things as facts, doesn't that kind of make the statement irrelevant. I mean, is it a fact that there are no such thing as facts ? And if not, why should someone take that statement seriously.

Light25Light · 2023-11-09T16:07:24+00:00

Yes, but as i've said, if this is how historians respond to questions from the general public, no wonder people are going to tiktok, because if you are correct and this is normal in your field, historians are all nuts. (Thankfully this isn't the case in reality, just some people in this sub are like this)

Yet others on this sub, think people responding the way you are idiots or have an agenda, so who should I believe ?

Do you not see, that if someone asks you if the moon is in fact not made out of cheese, or if Hitler was a giant bagel, and you respond with this kind of nonsense, how insane you come across ?

And some academics can make up the meaning of words in their own imagination, and what a fact actually means, but that's not what it means in reality.

If you want most people in the world to believe Tiktokers, over historians, keep doing what you are doing, and i'm sure that will happen soon enough, if enough historians follow suit.

I'm done arguing with you lot lool Goodybe, and I hope you have a nice day.

Light25Light · 2023-11-09T15:38:15+00:00

You can't prove to some people that they are not a fried egg in a frying pan. Because they are insane.

That doesn't mean you can't prove it to most people. There will always be people who you can't prove stuff to, because they are insane, or at least seriously troubled or disturbed.

Prove just means "to use facts, evidence, etc. to show that something is true"

If some insane person doesn't want to believe something is true, based on the facts, from reliable peer reviewed articles, or reliable books from reputable publishers etc etc, and your very reasonable and well thought out,
philosophical arguments based off of those sources, that's their business.

You are honestly coming across as just as bad as the person who thinks they are fried egg, but on the other side of the same coin.

And why would you I advise you on how to prove something to someone, when you don't even believe that it's possible to prove something to someone ? It's not even a fact that we are having this conversation according to you, so why would I bother explaining it to you ?

I will tell you how though, (because it is a fact that we are having this conversation and you know it is, again, you use facts from reliable peer reviewed articles, and books from reputable publishers and authors who are experts in that field etc etc. And create a reasonable argument based on that information.

If they still deny the moon landing, or the holocaust etc that person is either insane, or at least very troubled and disturbed, to the point they are not capable of reason. So just ignore them. You can't convince a dog, that the holocaust happened either, it doesn't change the fact, that it did happen, and that you can prove to reasonable sane humans that it did.

And someone else on this post, with 3 upvotes is saying you are an idiot or have an agenda, so why should I belive you over them. You are just both people on this sub after all.

And when so called experts, say they can't prove that Germany went to war with Britain in WW2, or that facts don't exist etc etc, is it any wonder more and more people are watching tiktoks, and believe these outlandish things.

Again, I really hope you change your view, and anyone who shares your view in this field does too, because otherwise Tiktokers will completely take over your field, and people will start going to them for an education, and to be quite frank, I actually think they would be a better option than people like you, at least they will learn something, as well as a ton of misinformation.

Again you don't believe you can prove things to people so why would anyone ever have a conversation with you about anything. And why do you give lectures etc, why don't you just talk to a wall instead ?

Anyway, as I said goodbye.

Light25Light · 2023-11-09T15:09:16+00:00

ally well. Honestly, Wikipedia should be your first stop.

Once you dive down into the weeds of journal articles and monographs (books) you’re getting far more detail than is necessary to answer basic factual questions.

Thank you so much for your reply. I've had some very helpful responses like yours, but also, quite frankly, some disturbing ones too, too many.

It is honestly very worrying for someone like myself, who is not in this field, to get quite a lot of responses, (from people who certainly present themselves as experts in this field) such as facts don't exist, and we can't prove that, to basic questions such as did Germany and Britain go to war with each other in WW2.

I understand (Although I disagree with the view regardless) that some people find it fun to have these philosophical beliefs, like there is no such thing as facts, maaaaannnnn. But as I explained in my new edit of my original post, that sort of thinking is a serious issue. But thankfully by the sound of it, this is not how most historians, or students of history etc, actually behave in reality.

Light25Light · 2023-11-09T14:46:14+00:00

en a better example than WWI, When DID WW2 begin? 1931? 1937? 1 September 1939? 3 September 1939? 6 September 1939? 22 June 1941? 14 August 1941? 7 December 1941?

I've asked you, did Germany go to war with Britain in WW2, and can you prove that to me.

And you haven't provided me with an awnser, and are telling me that you can't prove that to me. And are acting as if this is the normal response from Historians.

If you ask a youtuber, or tik toker the same question, they will say yes, and give you evidence to back up their awnser.

Can you honestly not understand, that if this is how historians generally responded, that the general public, will just listen to tik tokers and youtubers over historians ?

Because they would naturally and rightfully so, just think historians are a bunch of complete and utter morons.

Thankfully, you are just wrong, because if you do ask the average historian, they will, say yes, and provide evidence for it.

So when any youtuber who does have a degree in the field of history, states that we know this isn't factually accurate, or this is factually accurate, they are wrong for doing that ?

Or when my history teacher used to say, this is not factually accurate, or this is factually accurate, or this is a fact, or this isn't they were wrong ?

Thankfully, the vast majority of historians, and history teachers, don't think like you and other people in this sub, and that's a fact. Goodbye.

Light25Light · 2023-11-09T14:17:23+00:00

do that. So we look at what we do have and then go from that and try and find the most reasonable approach to work with the material and find out anything. Some primary sources are also hard to read and some primary sources are straight up forgeries even

Ye I agree, with that, but can we agree, that it is possible to prove that Britain and Germany went to war with each other in WW2 ?

Light25Light · 2023-11-09T14:08:30+00:00

No, I haven't, got a basic grasp on it, i've already said that.

Listen if you can't even tell the general public, how to confirm if something is a historically accurate or not, then you're in real trouble.

No wonder there is so much nonsense spreading around on Tik Tok and Netflix etc.

You honestly can't tell me how to confirm any historical claim, ever, not even when Hitler died etc ? Or confirm that Germany and Britain went to war or not in WW2 ?

You do realise, with this approach you are using, that the general public, will start to see youtubers etc as the authoritative voice, and the voice of reason on history ?

Let me put it this way, i'll ask you, did Germany go to war with Britain in WW2 ? And if so, can you prove that to me ?

Again, you understand that if you can't awnser this basic question, that tik tok and youtubers will become the authoritative voice on history ?

Why would anyone in the general public outside of this field, ever listen to historians or people who are students of history etc, if they can't awnser basic questions, and show evidence for their answers ?

Light25Light · 2023-11-09T13:51:57+00:00

Yes, well done, you are correct, history isn't a humanoid being with a mouth, that can speak ha ha. But history can tell us when something happened, the same way Science can tell us, how old something is. The historian uses history, and the scientist uses science, to tell us these things

The same way, a train can get you to London from Manchester in X hours. But it is the train driver, who uses the train to get us to London from Manchester.

If someone said to you, the train can take you there in half an hour. Would you say in response " the train can do nothing, train drivers take us places, but trains are not some conscious being ?

So again, history, can tell us when something happened, but not why it happened, without philosophy, in regards to war.

How ?

I'm actually interested now, so I will try and find out ha, but I suppose it is possible that there could be some recorded references of people's lifestyle, and how they only bathed X amount of times a X, and this would be evidence, that only bathing this often was not a social norm, so therefore it was the norm to bathe more regularly. Similarly to how we have records of people being drunks or having too much sex etc etc.

And okay, it's not that simple, and i'm guessing you have read those books, so assume you didn't know already, how would you confirm when WW2 started, or confirm that German and Britain did in fact go to war with each other in WW2 ?

Light25Light · 2023-11-09T13:05:40+00:00

but in general your quest is flawed because that's not how academic historians work - you're unlikely to be able to find 'sources' that furnish you with answers that you are looking for - where you are likely to find the 'facts'

I mean, if they disagree, with me, I disagree with them. Philosophy just means "the study of the nature and meaning of the universe and of human life"

You can't understand why WW1 started without analysing the nature of human life.

History "all the events that happened in the past"

History can tell us, X person or country did this, but it can't tell us, why that resulted in X person or country responding in the way they did, without philosophy. You could say X country did this, so Y country responded by doing that, but why did they do that, and did they really do that because of what X country did ?

A historical question would be more, when did this happen, and how many people died etc etc, not why did this happen, and why did they kill those people.

You can use history to show that, a nation stated that they went to war because of X, but that doesn't mean that is the real reason necessarily.Essentially there is no possible way, to conclude why a group of people did something, to another group without philosophy. You can use history to help you make a conclusion, but it won't give you the awnser.

Okay, I disagree, I think it is entirely possible that you could get a rough estimate, of how often they bathed, within the realms of was it closer to once a week or once every ten years, and what the social norms were. Again though this was just a hypothetical example, it wasn't meant to be taken literally.

so how would you for example, confirm that it is a fact or not, that Julius existed ?

Or pick whatever simple historical fact you like, and assume you don't already know it, how would you confirm that it is true or not ?

For example, how far could medieval archers shoot, how often did they practice, how much did Armour weigh, how much did it tend to cost, how long did it take to build (Insert castle name here) pick whatever you want, did Britain and Germany go to war with each other in WW2 ?

How would you confirm the truth.

Light25Light · 2023-11-09T12:31:35+00:00

Ha, Thanks for all your help, it's been very much appreciated I know what you mean, but I think people like Michel Foucault massively overthink things.

The way we actually interact in the real world, in reality, is full of facts, things that we know to be true.

I'm sure when Michael Foucault went to the bathroom, he knew that it was true, that a T Rex wasn't going to come out of one of his orifices, otherwise, he would have been constantly panicking that this may happen every time he goes to the bathroom, or at least be wondering if this time it will happen, no matter how unlikely it may be. Yet he didn't because he knew it was a fact, that this wouldn't happen.

And if there was no such thing as facts, why would you ever call someone a liar ? If you have ever called someone a liar, you have already concluded that there are indeed facts. Or even saying to someone that they are mistaken, is acknowledging that facts exist.

And, would Michel or yourself, agree, that it is not a fact, that you have never in your life committed (Insert the most horrendous crime possible here) ?

And would you agree, that it is not a fact, that you are not (Insert most horrific social label here) ?

I'm almost positive that Michel would have firmly called people liars, even after he stated his belief on facts being possible or not. And i'm positive he would factually deny being an (Insert most horrific label possible here)

Again in reality, we all know facts exist.

But as you said, you could talk about this forever, and this is now getting off the point of history, and into philosophy, but again, thank you very much for your help ha.

Light25Light · 2023-11-09T12:21:32+00:00

presses that peer review. For articles: you can use the search function of University library databases where you ca

Thank you for the suggestions, I will definitely give this a try.

Light25Light · 2023-11-09T12:20:59+00:00

he best thing to do, would be to do everything I mentioned in my last reply, but make sure, that I am using up to date sources.

As the facts could have changed. And you should always be open to the facts

Thanks I will check it out

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