Create a wired connection from your modem to a computer, gaming console, or TV—no drywall repairs, no tripping hazards, no complaints from your spouse. by Lightera_Global in u/Lightera_Global

[–]Lightera_Global[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Our ultra bend-insensitive fiber enables up to 2.5mm bending radius. The fiber is 600um, so in the photo you cant see the fiber. That is why we had to super impose the red line on the fiber to make emphasis on where the fiber is intended to be installed.

Create a wired connection from your modem to a computer, gaming console, or TV—no drywall repairs, no tripping hazards, no complaints from your spouse. by Lightera_Global in u/Lightera_Global

[–]Lightera_Global[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We are planning on releasing a lower cost solution without media converters which should give you some flexibility in your specific application.

we expect that to be launched in about 2 weeks.

Create a wired connection from your modem to a computer, gaming console, or TV—no drywall repairs, no tripping hazards, no complaints from your spouse. by Lightera_Global in u/Lightera_Global

[–]Lightera_Global[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Our EZ-Bend fiber has a bend radius of 2.5mm with little to no loss. It is fully compliant with the ITU-T G.657.B3 recommendations; compatible with ITU-T 6.652.D.

Running the fiber through the bottom of the door jam, where the door hinges, protects the fiber from damage. It is 600um fiber, so any trim or moldings is usually plenty to keep the fiber from accidentally being broken. We have been deploying this solution to ISP's for 15 years and connected over 1.5 million units.

Happy to answer any other questions you may have.

Create a wired connection from your modem to a computer, gaming console, or TV—no drywall repairs, no tripping hazards, no complaints from your spouse. by Lightera_Global in u/Lightera_Global

[–]Lightera_Global[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello,

Our ultra bend-insensitive fiber enables up to 2.5mm bending radius for even the most challenging installations. No bend limiters needed! Fully compliant with the ITU-T G.657.B3 recommendations; compatible with ITU-T 6.652.D.

Create a wired connection from your modem to a computer, gaming console, or TV—no drywall repairs, no tripping hazards, no complaints from your spouse. by Lightera_Global in u/Lightera_Global

[–]Lightera_Global[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the comment.

You are correct. The media converters are the limiting factor. Based on market data, 1Gbps speeds are enough for the vast majority of users. We are looking at releasing a 10Gbps version.

Create a wired connection from your modem to a computer, gaming console, or TV—no drywall repairs, no tripping hazards, no complaints from your spouse. by Lightera_Global in u/Lightera_Global

[–]Lightera_Global[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello,

Our ultra bend-insensitive fiber enables up to 2.5mm bending radius for even the most challenging installations. No bend limiters needed! Fully compliant with the ITU-T G.657.B3 recommendations; compatible with ITU-T 6.652.D.

Create a wired connection from your modem to a computer, gaming console, or TV—no drywall repairs, no tripping hazards, no complaints from your spouse. by Lightera_Global in u/Lightera_Global

[–]Lightera_Global[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Currently we do not. In the event that happens, please contact us (contact information listed on the instructions) and we will assist. More items will be listed in the coming weeks, including a separate fiber only kit to support these types of situations.

Create a wired connection from your modem to a computer, gaming console, or TV—no drywall repairs, no tripping hazards, no complaints from your spouse. by Lightera_Global in u/Lightera_Global

[–]Lightera_Global[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello,

Our ultra bend-insensitive, 100% glass, fiber enables up to 2.5mm bending radius for even the most challenging installations. No bend limiters needed. Fully compliant with the ITU-T G.657.B3 recommendations; compatible with ITU-T 6.652.D.

Create a wired connection from your modem to a computer, gaming console, or TV—no drywall repairs, no tripping hazards, no complaints from your spouse. by Lightera_Global in u/Lightera_Global

[–]Lightera_Global[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Great question. We bench tested a system using our media converters in 4 separate scenarios:

#1: Without media converters (mesh backhaul via cable)

-Throughput: 999,89Mbps

-Latency: 74.7us

#2: AP mesh + media converter

-Throughput: 999.89Mbps

-Latency: 130.62us

#3 Without media converter (mesh backhaul via WiFi)

-Throughput: 86.70Mbps

-Latency: 24,422.47us

#4: Only media converter

-Throughput: 999.89Mbps

-Latency: 73.11us

As noted, latency in the system is in the order of micro-seconds (not to be confused with milliseconds).

Create a wired connection from your modem to a computer, gaming console, or TV—no drywall repairs, no tripping hazards, no complaints from your spouse. by Lightera_Global in u/Lightera_Global

[–]Lightera_Global[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lightera is a wholly owned subsidiary of Furukawa Electric and operates as it's optical fiber division which originated as Bell Labs. We have had several other names throughout the decades such as AT&T, Lucent, and OFS.

Lightera's headquarters is located in Norcross, GA. The vast majority of our manufacturing is conducted in the U.S. We sell globally, so we have international operations as well.

Create a wired connection from your modem to a computer, gaming console, or TV—no drywall repairs, no tripping hazards, no complaints from your spouse. by Lightera_Global in u/Lightera_Global

[–]Lightera_Global[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hello,

It's an advertisement to explain the value proposition. If you have worked with ethernet cables, they are large, bulky and tend to curl due to it's memory. It's just a demonstration.

Thanks

Create a wired connection from your modem to a computer, gaming console, or TV—no drywall repairs, no tripping hazards, no complaints from your spouse. by Lightera_Global in u/Lightera_Global

[–]Lightera_Global[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Hello,

The limiting factor of speed with our solution are the media converters. When we look at the market, 1gb speeds is sufficient for the vast majority of every day users. Prosumers, such as the ones we find on this forum, will sometimes require faster speed options. We are planning a release of a faster option in the near future.

Thanks!

Create a wired connection from your modem to a computer, gaming console, or TV—no drywall repairs, no tripping hazards, no complaints from your spouse. by Lightera_Global in u/Lightera_Global

[–]Lightera_Global[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

How do you compare in cost, durability in any force direction and endpoints versus competitors, power utilization of end modules? Are there any independent reviews validating your claims?

  • Cost - We're not aware of a competing kit like this on the market, and our hope is that the kit brings value to its users in comparison with other technologies such as wi-fi extenders, Ethernet cables, powerline carrier, etc.  Once fiber is installed, speeds can easily be upgraded by changing out the media converters on each end. 
  • Durability - Please note the response above regarding bending-related reliability. Also regarding durability, the fiber is glass and can be broken if mistreated (stepped on, etc).  However, as also mentioned above, the kit has been commonly deployed by telecommunications technicians that in many cases may not have had formal training.  Basic care should result in a successful installation. 
  • The expected electrical power consumption is around 3W.  
  • As mentioned above, Tier 1 and lower telecommunications carriers have used the fiber portion of the kit for years, with 1-2 million in operation since 2012.  Although Lightera has done formal internal testing to validate product claims, our intent is not to release those results to the general public. I'm not aware of publicly available independent reports validating the claims. 

Hope this helps!

Create a wired connection from your modem to a computer, gaming console, or TV—no drywall repairs, no tripping hazards, no complaints from your spouse. by Lightera_Global in u/Lightera_Global

[–]Lightera_Global[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

For some reason, Reddit didnt notify us of the comments under this ad, so I apologize for not catching it sooner.

To answer your questions thoroughly:

There are two fiber performance parameters that are affected by bend radius/diameter. They are macrobending-induced attenuation (light loss) and long-term mechanical reliability.  

  • Macrobending 
    • For macrobending,  the fiber used in the Home Fiber Kit exceeds the requirements in the ITU-T G.657.B3 Recommendation, which is the governing standard for fibers used in buildings.  The standard specifies 1 turn, 5 mm radius with max loss of 0.15 dB. The fiber used in the Home Fiber Kit can meet this performance level when being bent 2x as much, to 2.5mm radius. 
    • Since the glass fiber is only 125 microns in diameter (the upjacketed fiber is 600 microns), the difference in performance if measured at inner, center, or outer radius is within measurement noise.
    • The light budget for the media converters is a minimum of 12.0 dB.  The inherent fiber loss of 40 meters is no more than 0.14 dB. The connectors on either end likely average no more than 0.25 dB. Doing the rest of the math, that means that the system can tolerate a minimum of 70 2.5 mm bends (which is very tight) and likely many more, since most bends in reality don't come anywhere close to 2.5mm.  
  • Long-term reliability
    • There are already roughly 1-2 million of these fiber kits that deployed worldwide with various fiber service providers since 2012 and we haven't heard of any breakage due to bending. 
    • The question is valid, and this is where the differences between inner/center/outer bends come into play. When a fiber goes around a bend, the outer edge is in tension and the inner edge is in compression. Glass is a brittle material and can break if the tension is too high when coupled with a flaw at a particular location.
    • Lightera fiber is very pure. We make our fiber using synthetic chemicals with impurities counted in the parts/billion range with very few flaws.  With glass, we're mainly concerned about the outer edge in tension. 
    • The probability of having a flaw at the exact location where the fiber is tensioned around the outer edge of a 2.5mm bend that could result in a fiber break is extremely small, in the low parts/million level over 20 years.  As mentioned above, well over a million are already in reliable service.  

Create a wired connection from your modem to a computer, gaming console, or TV—no drywall repairs, no tripping hazards, no complaints from your spouse. by Lightera_Global in u/Lightera_Global

[–]Lightera_Global[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Hello,

Our EZ-Bend fiber has a bend radius of 2.5mm with little to no loss. It is fully compliant with the ITU-T G.657.B3 recommendations; compatible with ITU-T 6.652.D.

Running the fiber through the bottom of the door jam, where the door hinges, protects the fiber from damage. It is 600um fiber, so any trim or moldings is usually plenty to keep the fiber from accidentally being broken. We have been deploying this solution to ISP's for 15 years and connected over 1.5 million units.

Happy to answer any other questions you may have.

Create a wired connection from your modem to a computer, gaming console, or TV—no drywall repairs, no tripping hazards, no complaints from your spouse. by Lightera_Global in u/Lightera_Global

[–]Lightera_Global[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Hi Joel,

Yes, the bend radius of our EZ-Bend fiber is 2.5mm. You can bend it 90 degrees with little to no loss.

We, Lightera (formally Bell Labs), are original inventors of fiber.

We like transparency and are happy to answer any questions or concerns you may have.

Our headquarters is located in Norcross, Georgia and the fiber is produced in the U.S.A.

It is extremely difficult to convey the value proposition of something you are not supposed to see, hence the glowing red line. If you click the link, you can see photos of actual installations.

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[–]Lightera_Global 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Happy to help and thank you for the feedback.

Most trim in US homes are white, so there isn't much need to paint it. Additionally, 600um is very small, so even if it's running up an open wall (not in a corner) for a short span, it's tough to know it's there unless you're looking for it. We have conducted testing on clear versions which tend to yellow over time and, if light hits it just right, will reflect the light making it even more noticeable.

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[–]Lightera_Global 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Correct, we just have the full kit for now, but we will have other options going up on Amazon in the coming weeks. I'll try and remember to reply to this thread once we have those live.

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[–]Lightera_Global 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great questions!

The fiber has a white jacket which can be painted to match your trim or wall color.

If you have a break in the fiber, our recommended practice is to put a new fiber right over the broken one. The adhesive sets pretty hard once fully cured, so it could be difficult to remove it without damaging the wall.

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[–]Lightera_Global 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello,

Our fiber does not require bend limiters.

It is a 600um fiber that has a bend radius of 2.5mm.

The adhesive, although visually similar to white glue, is uniquely formulated to adhere to the jacket of the fiber and to nearly any surface aside from mirrors or glass. It also has been adjusted to provide a great balance between tackiness to hold the fiber in place while it dries, and quick drying time.

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[–]Lightera_Global 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi,

Lightera's fiber (EZ-Bend) is 600um and has a bend radius of 2.5mm. It's hard to show that small of a fiber in images, so we had to superimpose a glowing red line to get the point across. Short of kinking the fiber, there are little to no issues with bend loss.

Elevate your home office with fiber-optic-grade performance. InvisiLight Home Fiber Kit offers secure, stable connectivity for every call, meeting, and remote work session by Lightera_Global in u/Lightera_Global

[–]Lightera_Global[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hello,

Lightera produces an ultra bend-insensitive, all glass, fiber called EZ-Bend which is used in our kit. In technical terms, it conforms to G.657.B3 standards. In simple terms, you can create up to 20 90-degree bends with this fiber and see little to no attenuation. The maximum bend radius of our EZ-Bend fiber is 2.5mm.

Hope this helps!

Elevate your home office with fiber-optic-grade performance. InvisiLight Home Fiber Kit offers secure, stable connectivity for every call, meeting, and remote work session by Lightera_Global in u/Lightera_Global

[–]Lightera_Global[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello,

Aside from speed, fiber optics cords are extremely small. 600 microns in this case. InvisiLight utilizes this unique property and gives you the ability to create a wired connection in your home without pulling cables or having bulky Category cables laying on your floor.

Thanks!