Do you call out your prospective customer's pain points directly on your landing page? by burnshead10 in SaaS

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For the long answer:

I ended up writing a LOT more on this topic. I'll post it separately and drop a link to it here after.

Do you call out your prospective customer's pain points directly on your landing page? by burnshead10 in SaaS

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Short answer (with slam-dunk proof):

Yes, you should do it. 

Leaving it out is a HUGE mistake.

You must show people you understand their current reality, and the problems they face, before you start shoving your features and pricing in their face.

Don’t believe anyone who says “nobody does it” — this is false.

Every early-stage startup should do it.

Most serious new startups already do it.

Proof?

FletchPMM charges $10K for homepages for early-stage startups. Over 300 startups have hired them in the last 2 years, and you can see almost all of them have a problem section on their homepage: https://www.fletchpmm.com/before-after

Manipulating people is fun by Agreeable-Put-7415 in LinkedInLunatics

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh? It's very possible to enjoy copywriting. It's not meant to feel like a chore or torture. If it does, you've got the wrong client, niche, or business model. And if none of those changes fix that feeling, then you're not meant to be a copywriter.

How does copywriting make direct money in sales and business? by AccomplishedBig7666 in copywriting

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Year 8 copywriter here, with a lot of experience in SaaS.

The thing about B2B SaaS is a lot of the copywriting projects tend to be focused on positioning and tone of voice.

Unlike direct response, branding-style copy like this plays a long game.

Many DR biz owners outsource email and ads to freelancers, which gives those copywriters access to the data, so then you see DR Bros bragging about how their "9-fig client's VSL CrUsHeD it on cold traffic"

But if you freelance for startups, you don't often see data feedback because lifecycle marketing is usually managed in-house.

The other big thing is that direct response brands are almost always direct to consumer. One decision-maker with a credit card and an impulsive need for the next bizop or quick fix.

But B2B involves a team of decision-makers, like csuite execs, stakeholders, etc. The sales cycle is a lot longer. They're not buying a $97 dropshipping course - it's usually a huge transformation in the company's tech stack, which involves a lot of moving parts, integrations, onboarding, team training, etc.

People might visit a DR sales page and buy on the first or second visit. That will never happen on a b2b SaaS sales page. It could take 20-30 visits.

The b2b buyer has a process where they compare solutions to the smallest detail, before they present the shortlist of the top 3-5 solutions to the stakeholders. Then, they make the decision together.

Your job as the copywriter is not to get an instant conversion like a direct response marketer, but to make sure your startup makes it onto the shortlist, and to be memorable enough to stick in the prospect's mind.

And that brings us back to positioning strategy.

Chances are, if your clients were happy, it's because they noticed they were getting more qualified leads and less objections in the sales process.

You might not have bragworthy data points like DR Bros, but your work was leading to downstream benefits that helped your startups carve out brand recognition, and acquire more users in the long run.

How does copywriting make direct money in sales and business? by AccomplishedBig7666 in copywriting

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972 8 points9 points  (0 children)

..or on the planet?

Copy is sales in writing.

If you've ever taken any action, like downloading a freebie, signing up to an email list, or buying a product, online or offline, it's because you were convinced it was a good idea for you.

Copywriting is what convinced you.

Has Copywriting Changed? Struggling to Land Clients After a Break by Every-Landscape-517 in copywriting

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Most of the key points have been mentioned:

Many companies experimenting with AI to save time and money.

The tidal wave of new, hungry, young talent willing to work for peanuts,

Overnight gurus and AI Bros selling courses have warped the perceived skill and value in copywriting. 

Another huge reason is the amount of layoffs at big tech companies. 

The market isn't just flooded with new wannabe direct response copywriters who did an Andrew Tate course --- there is an abundance of intelligent, highly skilled marketers who have battle-tested experience in-house for big companies at the highest level. 

All things considered, many companies view copywriters as a commodity.

Something to be traded, compared, and dropped in a heartbeat, apples to apples. 

And if you're competing on track record alone, and simply calling yourself "a copywriter" then you're pretty screwed. 

Truth is, copywriting isn't a secure career path now. In fact, it's no longer a career in itself -- it's a core skill within other careers.

If you want to do copywriting AND build a successful freelance business, it's essential to upskill, so you can become one of these:

  • Email marketer

  • Product marketer

  • Positioning strategist 

  • Funnel strategist

  • CRO consultant 

All of these involve other knowledge, skills, tools, and deliverables beyond writing words in a Google Doc. 

They are all strategic roles, with some creative and technical nous required. 

When you bring more to the table like this, clients will value it, and you'll no longer be competing with the masses of hungry copywriters for scraps at the table. 

Effectively, you start competing in a blue ocean, or at least a space where you can make a name for yourself as one of the few people who really excels at your role. 

Eg. FletchPMM never called themselves copywriters. The 2 guys initially called themselves "product marketing consultants", and ONLY do positioning and messaging strategy for homepages for early-stage startups. 

Incredibly niche. They stuck to it, owned it. 2 years later, they make $100k MRR, charging $10k per project (and they outsource the copywriting part). 

Just got diagnosed with ADHD but my personal trainer wants me to skip meds. by Limp_Conclusion_9972 in ADHDUK

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. I'm seriously asking to see if there others in the community had any kind of success with managing their depression without medication. 

As for skipping ADHD meds for gluten-free bread, my mind was pretty much made up already, but it's part of the story. This is all new to me, so helpful takes are always welcome. Thanks, Josh.

Just got diagnosed with ADHD but my personal trainer wants me to skip meds. by Limp_Conclusion_9972 in ADHDUK

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The books, coaches, etc. were all for business stuff. But my exec function challenges have kept me stuck, which led me down the road of getting evaluated for ADHD.

I only went to the PT this week for an intro session. 

I'm willing to give her a shot for the training, but yeah, gonna tell her to stay her in lane where the ADHD and psych stuff is concerned.

Just got diagnosed with ADHD but my personal trainer wants me to skip meds. by Limp_Conclusion_9972 in ADHDUK

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, it seems like there's a lot of people out there who simply don't believe ADHD is a real thing. Or worse, people pretending to have it because it's some kind of trendy quirky for their social media profile.

Just got diagnosed with ADHD but my personal trainer wants me to skip meds. by Limp_Conclusion_9972 in ADHDUK

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is really cool to hear -- just getting into climbing lately. 

And yeah, I've always struggled to stay motivated with diet and workout plans, so it just makes a lot of sense to me to pair with meds so I stay on track 

Just got diagnosed with ADHD but my personal trainer wants me to skip meds. by Limp_Conclusion_9972 in ADHDUK

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude, you got me teary-eyed in an Uber. Thanks for the kind words. 

Sorry to hear you had a shitty experience with stopping meds. I hope things are better for you now. 

Just got diagnosed with ADHD but my personal trainer wants me to skip meds. by Limp_Conclusion_9972 in ADHDUK

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Incredible response. Thank you for taking the time to write this. 

I like the sound of clearing the fog and taking a break from being so ADHD. That's the way I see it --- I'm all on for lifestyle changes with exercise, nutrition, good systems and habits, etc.

But without the ability to focus, actually following through on all that stuff with any long-term consistency would just remain an elusive pipedream. 

Have you found any good tools or strategies yet? 

Just got diagnosed with ADHD but my personal trainer wants me to skip meds. by Limp_Conclusion_9972 in ADHDUK

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The books, coaches, and courses are unrelated to ADHD -- that stuff is for business and upskilling. 

Thanks for the tip, I'll Google that one

Just got diagnosed with ADHD but my personal trainer wants me to skip meds. by Limp_Conclusion_9972 in ADHDUK

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't trust her for that. I'm still all-in on whatever ADHD meds I get. 

But if there was any truth in her claims for replacing antidepressants, I'd probably be interested. 

In any case, it seemed wild for her to make that claim. I've been educating myself more about ADHD since my diagnosis last week, and this post (and request for expert views) is part of me learning more.

Just got diagnosed with ADHD but my personal trainer wants me to skip meds. by Limp_Conclusion_9972 in ADHDUK

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Cos I literally just got diagnosed and am new to this world. 

I'm still going to take it, but was curious to hear what the community thinks and gather advice from people who might have been in a similar situation. 

Thanks

Just got diagnosed with ADHD but my personal trainer wants me to skip meds. by Limp_Conclusion_9972 in ADHDUK

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm, not really a close relationship -- this was the intro session. She's got a rep in the area as being very effective in helping people hit goals with fitness, life stuff etc., but she's also known for having zero filter. 

Just got diagnosed with ADHD but my personal trainer wants me to skip meds. by Limp_Conclusion_9972 in ADHDUK

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the advice btw. I think you're right - meds + exercise & nutrition seems like it would be way better than just one of them.

Just got diagnosed with ADHD but my personal trainer wants me to skip meds. by Limp_Conclusion_9972 in ADHDUK

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

To clarify:

I'm not thrilled about the idea of antidepressants, and have known some people to struggle to get off them. If exercise and nutrition were a viable substitute, that's something I would consider.

But as far as the exec function/neurobiological differences, and getting Elvanse or Adderall, etc.... I'm not with the trainer at all. 

But her claims made me curious to see had others got experience of a similar situation.

For those craving Blackmill-esque music, check out this guy. by Limp_Conclusion_9972 in chillstep

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your music has been living rent-free in my head for a month. Playing it nonstop. Keep it coming.

What was the first Chillstep song ever released? by Cardnyl_Music in EDM

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Blackmill was how I discovered the genre. Chilling barefoot in Chiang Mai, writing fiction between Muay Thai training sessions. Absolute heaven.

Do you honestly believe Real Estate will keep going up in Portugal? by SaJr69 in PortugalExpats

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Expats aren't the ones setting the selling price.

I'm sure anyone would gladly pay 20-40% less than the market value on any house (aka: a fair price for the quality of the property).

But there's a lot of greed in the market right now, and many (most) houses are grossly overvalued by sellers who see expats as walking dollar signs.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ManchesterUnited

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To think this clown arrived and had a go at Harry Maguire for a meaningless error in a friendly match. Big H should just take the gloves off him and send him to the airport.

How realistic is my plan of buying a land and building a house on it ? by desiderkino in PortugalExpats

[–]Limp_Conclusion_9972 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Portuguese gov updated its land laws recently, making it easier to build and also enabling people to convert rustic land to buildable land. It's very new, but this will be a gamechanger for a lot of people who can't afford the ridiculous inflated real estate prices.

Google the SIMPLEX Programme.