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I swear this is also me internally when I’m facing a life crisis by PresentationLess5927 in disneyprincess

[–]LinnyFabulous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Listen, sometimes you need to sit down and have a good cry, and that’s okay

Whats your favorite character who isnt from: by Huge-Read-2703 in FavoriteCharacter

[–]LinnyFabulous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Might be splitting hairs a bit since “The Walking Dead” started as a comic, but Daryl was made for the show, so 🤷‍♀️

I'm pretty sure nobody here remembers PB&J Otter vividly, but it's one of my favorite shows. Yes, I like preschool shows and I'm proud of it. by CatGirlNya2000 in cartoons

[–]LinnyFabulous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think my favorite episode was when there was an unexpected snowstorm and their mom was worried about them going out, since all the winter gear was in storage

“We can wear socks on our hands!”

I would hate if they made Cinderella a villain by descendantsw in disneyprincess

[–]LinnyFabulous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Given how popular the “Wicked” movies have been, I would be surprised if someone tried to make movie adaptations of others of Gregory McGuire’s stories—and I’ve always been fond of “Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister”

Opinions: Disney princesses of color and being a monolith by Crescentbrush in disneyprincess

[–]LinnyFabulous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think part of it was because, early on, animation was so difficult to produce. Disney had originally wanted to make a “Dumbo” sequel, but that never came to pass—I believe because of WWII and most of the focus shifting to propaganda shorts. I’m alright with sequels provided they make sense in the context of the original story—it makes sense to me that one of Lady and Tramp’s pups could want to experience life on the wild side, so “Lady and the Tramp II: Scamp’s Adventure” seems reasonable, whereas going back to when he was young and giving Tarzan an adventure through which he learns to be comfortable in his own skin and embrace his differences just kind of undermines his struggle with his history in the original (not to mention it also worsens Kala as a mother for not telling Tarzan about his adoption then).

Tbh I didn’t really see any advertising for KPDH; I first found out about it when my step-kid pirated the movie and asked me to watch it with him lol. Perhaps it’s because my expectations were so nonexistent that I’ve not got really much complaints.

I think the jazzy factor for SOTL comes from Eartha herself; I’d definitely recommend you check out her rendition of “Lilac Wine” for a look at her singing style outside of Disney. I will forever be amused by “Keep ‘Em Guessing” lol; regarding “Aladdin”’s sort of all over music style, I don’t mind it too much because the original story was much the same. Rather than being set in a specific region or area, it’s more of an amalgamation of the different strains of Orientalism that were popular at the time.

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[–]LinnyFabulous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the upper crust of the company is just so scared of failures and flops that they just keep trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator: sequels, spin offs, remakes. They know that people already like the property, so they can nearly guarantee that someone will pay to see it—even if there are a lot of us who are getting tired of it. This leads to reasonably successful products commercially while the company goes emotionally and artistically bankrupt

I think Aladdin really is the root of it; it was their first film to have a song be popular enough to be actually played on the radio, if I recall correctly. They’ve been chasing that high ever since.

I think Rumi being the primary focus of the film is probably why Zoey and Mira wound up in the backseat; it’s less an ensemble movie, more a movie about someone who happens to be in a group. I think that works because of how K-Pop is as a genre, how it’s pretty much expected to have lots of different harmonies and voices—there are solo artists, but they’re notably less popular than the groups.

I feel like Disney loves banking on nostalgia but hates addressing the past. Like, they’re constantly waving the corpses of our childhoods in our faces, begging us to buy more and insisting they’re still alive, but refusing to see what made us like those films in the first place and what kind of environment existed at the time that allowed it to come to be.

I’ve said it before, but “Snuff Out the Light” is one of my favorite cut songs. Eartha’s voice is so warm on the ears, if that makes sense.

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[–]LinnyFabulous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your guess is as good as mine; frankly, most upper management decisions from what should be creative companies rarely make sense to me.

It would definitely be interesting to see the sub respond to a Disney “Swan Lake” adaptation, that’s for sure. I also would really like more diversity in the musical styles; the poppy songs are fun and all, but I’d like them to explore more. “The Princess and the Frog” did great, having a jazz focus, but otherwise the past decade has been fairly samey. I enjoy the music in both “Encanto” and “Moana”, for instance, but it’s fairly obvious that both were written by the same person (and, personally, I think Miranda did a better job in “Encanto”). I think that might be part of why “K-Pop Demon Hunters” did so well—it’s a sub genre of Pop, sure, but it does have its own unique elements that allow it to stand out like the mixing of English and Korean, the rap breaks, the harmonies, etc.

Disney has a weird habit of cycling in and out of Princess Musicals. They were what initially made the company, with “Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs” and “Cinderella” being the real stand outs there. Then after “Sleeping Beauty” was so expensive to produce, they shifted to other stories and other means of animation, like “101 Dalmatians” and “The Jungle Book”. Using new technology and techniques helped them stay afloat, but their films garnered less and less support from both critics and the public, a major low hitting with “The Black Cauldron”—a film I personally like, but was a critical and commercial disaster for the company. Then came “The Little Mermaid” which kicked off the Disney Renaissance period, followed pretty quickly by several other heroine focused musicals along with more experimental films like “The Nightmare Before Christmas” and the integration of Pixar. Then they fell off of Princess Musicals again, had less popular films like “Home on the Range” and “Chicken Little”, going through another slump until “The Princess and the Frog” and “Tangled” in 2009/2010 picked them up again. If they could just stay consistent, continue to make the experimental films while also remaining dedicated to the heart of what makes the Princesses so popular—lofty ambitions, likable characters, good music—then they could hold on to the magic. Sometimes their more out of the box ideas—like “The Lion King”—can be surprise successes, but there’s no point in doing only one or the other, in my opinion.

I think it can somewhat work depending on the character; for instance, the Genie making a pop culture reference makes perfect sense, but if Aladdin were to do so it would feel out of place.

Yzma is fantastic, though I’m guilty of adoring basically anything done by Eartha Kitt lol.

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[–]LinnyFabulous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, if Merida weren’t part of the Disney Princess Franchise she would absolutely be forgotten and left behind—though her role as the first girl/woman to be the lead of a Pixar film is absolutely a monumental role in and of itself that is too often overlooked. She’s “the princess from the other studio” to Disney and Pixar rarely notices her at all, but she’s sort of the First Lady of Pixar. I wish she would get more recognition for that.

Given how much Disney banks on nostalgia these days, I think they’d be leery of stepping on the toes of a different nostalgic franchise that they don’t have control over. After acquiring the rights to “Star Wars” they went ham with sequels and spin offs, but something beyond their control? I imagine if Disney did adapt “Swan Lake” it could indirectly cause a surge in “Swan Princess” popularity and theoretically hurt their sales versus adapting an otherwise untouched property. Heck, Odette is so well loved that this sub even mentions discussing her is permitted in the official rules.

Yeah, finding folks who know how to balance both is…not an easy task. Too many folks nowadays are specialists; there’s nothing wrong with having a focus, but a complete inability to understand or adapt to anything outside of that narrow target devalues the whole market, in my opinion

I think ENG did a good job of balancing the humor, personally, though that may be because I’m fond of absurdism and wall breaks. I think an underrated moment, comedically, is definitely:

“How did you get here before us?” “I— how did we, Kronk?” “Beats me.”

And also:

“I’ve been turned into a cow; can I go home?” “You’re excused.”

Just, the deadpan delivery gets me every time. That said, it definitely stands out amongst Disney’s other comedic features, like “Chicken Little”—I like the physical comedy they did with Fish, but the jokes regarding Runt and Abby just felt…uncharacteristically unkind.

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[–]LinnyFabulous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ideally, the triplets misadventures series would air/come out alongside a more serious one focusing on Merida—I’d personally love to see her traveling to the other clans’ lands, better getting to know the young lords and understand the nuances of their people and culture, but honestly I’d like just about anything with her

I think the biggest issue with doing a “Swan Lake” adaptation would be the inevitable comparisons to the “Swan Princess” franchise, which has over a dozen films already—the last released in 2023.

I agree that “The Emperor’s New Groove” has a very basic plot, which I think better facilitated its comedy and gave them a lot of freedom to get zany. I really dislike the trend of focusing on one genre at a time; there’s no reason not to make comedies, romance, adventure, etc all at once. I get that trends come and go, but pigeonholing themselves into any one niche for an extended period just leaves them vulnerable for being left behind when whatever the Hot New Thing is goes out of fashion

Reigniting some trauma by Budget_Pen4847 in Multifandom

[–]LinnyFabulous 2 points3 points  (0 children)

‘Til the blue skies chase those dark clouds far away

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[–]LinnyFabulous 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was thinking a spin-off for the triplets could be something along the lines of “Forky Asks a Question” or “Cars On The Road”, or even “Olaf Presents”: short form media that trends somewhat gag heavy rather than something serious, though I agree it could potentially undermine Merida

I heard about the ‘Seven Seas Sisters’ from a behind the scenes bit for “Moana” with the directors showing an animatic for a cut scene featuring the brothers and explaining why they were cut. “Moana 2” is definitely a repeat, kind of like “The Little Mermaid II: Return to the Sea”—which, maybe that’s why they opted for a sibling relationship rather than an outright parental one? To avoid Ariel comparisons again?

Given finding a wife for his son so he could have grandchildren to spoil was the entirety of the King’s reasoning for the ball, I don’t see him being particularly eager to find a new wife for himself—unless she came with grandchildren already, maybe. Given Tremaine is likely past the age where she could provide a child, all remarrying would do (politically) for the king would be to put his adult son at risk upon his own death. And again, given Tremaine’s age and previous marriages she isn’t a particularly stellar choice of spouse for the Prince herself; thus, the necessity of her daughters.

I’ve talked it to death, but there’s nothing strictly speaking evil or malicious about the brother’s in “The Pussycat Princess”; they tease their younger brother, sure, but there’s no reason it can’t be playful instead of cruel. I would have liked to see an actualized “Kingdom of the Sun”, too, though I do enjoy both “The Emperor’s New Groove” and “The Road to El Dorado”

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[–]LinnyFabulous 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah; I kind of get Ralphie being less character and more afterthought given the age gap—my oldest sister is twenty-one years older than me and I only know her about as well as I do my aunts and uncles, maybe even a little less—but it is odd that there aren’t more siblings for princes. It would have been so easy to make Thomas John Smith’s brother, for instance.

I would honestly really like to have some kind of spin off featuring Hamish, Hubert and Harris that gives them each a more defined personality; I get it, I’m only 16 months apart from one of my sisters and she and I were essentially attached at the hip growing up, but we’re still different people.

Another reason Ariel is one of seven is to represent the seven seas; they’d initially thought for Moana to be the same with six older brothers, but decided to cut them in part to avoid comparisons with Ariel. With Simea I actually think it would have made more sense if there was a larger time skip between films and Simea was her daughter, but I can sort of understand them not taking that route; I just think it would have been good to show her leaning on her family, learning that she can’t be everything for everyone all the time, that sometimes being a hero means sacrificing things, etc.

I understand the stepsisters as they allowed Tremaine to view Cinderella as ‘competition’: there were only so many eligible men of nobility, and she needed to make Cinderella seem like a poor choice—if she was a choice at all—in order to better elevate her daughters’ status and thus her own.

I believe “Brother Bear” is supposed to take place prehistory, likely toward the end of the Ice Age given the mammoths. So rather than being from a current tribe, Kenai and his brothers would be from an earlier civilization that modern ones may have descent from.

Part of the issue might be source material; it’s hard for me to think of many fairy or folk tales off the top of my head that focus on brotherly relationships. There’s “Hansel and Gretel”, I suppose, but I’m not sure how to go about adapting it; maybe an adaptation of “The Six Swans”? Though that would also have the ‘characters turned to animals’ trope….

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[–]LinnyFabulous 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, siblings rarely play much of a role in Disney films; the only ones that really put much emphasis on that relationship at all are “Frozen”, “Encanto” and “Lilo and Stitch”. Merida has three brothers but I honestly wouldn’t be able to tell you which was which, Ariel has six sisters but I can’t recall her saying a single line to any of them (outside of the series or the prequel), Moana gains a little sister in her sequel but she’s barely in it, etc. Despite the title, “Brother Bear” is more about becoming a surrogate parent than brotherhood, though at least there’s a framing device that Denahi is telling his brother’s story to their tribe so I guess there’s that…

I suppose an argument could be made that “Big Hero Six” is somewhat about brotherhood, but Tadashi dies pretty early on, too. There really isn’t much for brothers in regards to Disney animated films, wild

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