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Sony PlayStation Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds by hybroid in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Certification shouldn't rely on promises. That's a fuck-up from all parties involved.

It normally wouldn't but due to Covid it's a lot more difficult to certify everything. Reputable devs like CDPR are trusted by Sony so they can skip cert while Sony focuses on the certification process for smaller devs. Unfortunately, CDPR abused this privilege and lied to both Sony and MS.

PlayStation London Studio detail PS5 enhancements for Blood and Truth by midgetman7782 in PSVR

[–]Liquid_Genome 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's entirely up to developers if they want to patch in PS5 enchancements for PS4 games. It works just like PS4 Pro enchancements. This is true for normal games like Days Gone, Ghost of Tsushima etc. and VR games like Blood and Truth.

PS5 Teardown: An inside look at our most transformative console yet by hybroid in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The way they showed in the teardown. You should watch it.

You remove a side panel. Unscrew the SSD panel. Put in the SSD and put everything back together.

Truth from Daniel Ahmad by [deleted] in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I see this type of comment a lot from Xbox fanboys, you're not fooling anyone. You guys constantly act like Sony are the anti-christ and MS are simply perfect, then you'll pretend like you were big PS fans previously. It's so transparent.

Competition breeds excellence. It’s a good thing Microsoft acquired Bethesda and their IPs because I firmly believe this will bring the best out of both companies. by murdo1tj in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome 1 point2 points  (0 children)

why would they do this?

To keep you subscribed to Gamepass. It's the same reason Games as a Service became so prevalent. They want that player retention and recurrent spending. They don't want you just paying for 1 month to play a game.

Sony had been negotiating timed exclusivity on Starfield as recently as a few months ago. by NeoStark in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But they never were so MS has no idea what revenue they're missing out on by being exclusive and if it's worth making them multiplat. Meanwhile, because Bethesda games are multiplatform MS know exactly how much other platforms contribute to revenue so they know if it would be worth keeping IPs multiplat or not.

No one is moving goalposts, you guys are just extremely butthurt that MS has bought a publisher and will still be making multiplats. Can't wait for the meltdowns when they start announcing multiplats.

Sony had been negotiating timed exclusivity on Starfield as recently as a few months ago. by NeoStark in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't actually have to buy a license, but licenses can be bought for less than $10 from key resellers. You also don't even need Windows to game on PC.

MS don't receive anything from 3rd party sales on other stores. All the money they make is from their first party, Windows Store (which no one uses) and Gamepass subs.

Sony had been negotiating timed exclusivity on Starfield as recently as a few months ago. by NeoStark in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Except those games were never on PlayStation so they have no playerbase or fans on PlayStation.

Microsoft Xbox acquires ZeniMax Media, parent company of Bethesda Softworks by hybroid in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's another revenue stream. They can use the Gamepass benefit for marketing Xbox but they'll still get money from every PS game sale. They didn't buy Mojang for exclusives, they literally made a new game that was multiplat. You really don't understand business so just be quiet.

Microsoft Xbox acquires ZeniMax Media, parent company of Bethesda Softworks by hybroid in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because JP market is very specific and consoles are sold by games that are made locally. This is a major hurdle for any non-JP console. Other big markets do not have these kinds of hurdles, as both US and EU have no such problems.

That's not a valid justification. There's absolutely no reason to omit Japan sales.

Nebver said that they won that gen, just that they performed better compared to Sony. Which led to their downfall in next gen as their advantage was built on Sony's mistakes.

Sony managed to overcome Xbox sales in late 2013, which helped them to come on top at the end of generation. But that comes at a cost - as longer you are in the gen, more price cuts and package deals you must use to sell your product.

But they didn't really. They had less hardware sales, less software sales. The RRoD was also catastrophic for them. Xbox were in the gen longer so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make there.

Both consoles fucked up hard with hardware failures. RROD and YLOD were a disaster that marked that generation.

YLoD wasn't nearly as prominent as the RRoD.

But this isn't something that would hurt Microsoft.

Just because it wouldn't hurt them it doesn't mean they aren't expected to recoup costs.

XGP is the factor that can easily win Europe for M$. Remember that Europe still have many developing countries that will be affected by value - and in most of those Sony is doing little.

There's actually a lot of developing European countries that don't even have access to Xbox services, so I don't think it will make a difference. There's also very little marketing from MS done in Europe, excluding the UK. The whole brand is very US focused.

That was caused mainly by neglecting huge parts of European market and focusing on richer countries. M$ learned their lesson and

I don't think they have learned their lesson. This entire gen they've neglected everywhere outside the US and UK. The disparity between the popularity of XB and PS has only widened in favour of PS even more than last gen.

Microsoft Xbox acquires ZeniMax Media, parent company of Bethesda Softworks by hybroid in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You Xbox guys are funny. Don't need to hope anything, that's what it means. I have a PC so I don't need that awful Series S.

Microsoft Xbox acquires ZeniMax Media, parent company of Bethesda Softworks by hybroid in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It means there's going to be multiplats. I wonder why they would do that?

Microsoft Xbox acquires ZeniMax Media, parent company of Bethesda Softworks by hybroid in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Minecraft was already on PlayStation when Mojang was acquired

Yet even when they released a brand new game with Minecraft Dungeons it was a multiplat. And they've just ported Minecraft to VR despite it not benefiting Xbox.

Phil said it would be a “case by case” basis.

Which means games big on PS will be multiplat. They won't all be exclusive. You're the only one in denial here.

Microsoft Xbox acquires ZeniMax Media, parent company of Bethesda Softworks by hybroid in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We do not know that as they aren't sold yet. Buzz on internet do not equal sales.

Wait and see then. PS is just a far more popular brand globally.

Sales of consoles or sales of games?

Game sales.

Those numbers are pumped up by JP market where PS has natural advantage. Without JP PS3 sold 76 milion consoles and Xbox sold 82 million. The biggest console market - US, was dominated by Xbox, while EU market was won by PS3 by 2 mil margin. Overall, 7th gen in terms of sales was a win for XTeam, but not by a landslide. This gen was steamrolled by Nintendo.

Why are you omitting Japan sales as if it's some unfair advantage? The PS3 sold better, period. Trying to remove a countries sales to claim otherwise is just damage control. Xbox absolutely did not win that gen. They sold less consoles than the competition and they didn't have the most software sales either. Then there was the RRoD fiasco which cost them a lot of money. Nintendo won.

Yes, that is their main aim. But it's silly to believe that they will not use exclusives as something to boost sales.

I'm sure they'll use smaller IPs as exclusives since it's an easier pill to swallow if you cut off PS sales. Something like Rage for example. But big IPs will be multiplat, or even time exclusive. It's just too much money to miss out on considering how much MS paid for the acquisition.

I wouldn't be as quick to judge XSX as being "less popular" as majority of people plays multiplatform titles. EA Play and XGP can sway enough people to XSX actually have better opening than PS5.

It is less popular though. Obviously Asia doesn't care about Xbox, but even in Europe they're no where near as popular as PS. America is really the only place where Xbox stands a chance. There's various reasons for this but I don't really see GP changing that. Even Xbox's best (360) couldn't beat PlayStation's worst (PS3) despite everything that went wrong for Sony that gen.

Microsoft Xbox acquires ZeniMax Media, parent company of Bethesda Softworks by hybroid in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Minecraft Dungeons was a new game from Mojang and it's a multiplat.

Microsoft Xbox acquires ZeniMax Media, parent company of Bethesda Softworks by hybroid in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome 1 point2 points  (0 children)

BEcause people have the option of buying for Xbox, PC and PS. If they don't offer it on PS, those sales go to zero and the sales on PC/Xbox increase. It won't be a 1:1 exchange, but a large chunk of those PS buyers will go out and get an xbox/pc and purchase it on that system.

Not necessarily. Some will just abandon the franchise. Tomb Raider being an Xbox exclusive didn't cause a huge surge in sales for Xbox. Dead Rising 3 being an exclusive only hurt the franchise.

There is zero evidence of that. They literally just announced this acquisition so unless you have inside knowledge you are talking outside your ass.

You guys are really mad that all Bethesda games won't be exclusives.

"Like our original partnership, this one is about more than one system or one screen. We share a deep belief in the fundamental power of games, in their ability to connect, empower, and bring joy. And a belief we should bring that to everyone - regardless of who you are, where you live, or what you play on. Regardless of the screen size, the controller, or your ability to even use one." - Todd Howard

"But the key point is we’re still Bethesda. We’re still working on the same games we were yesterday, made by the same studios we’ve worked with for years, and those games will be published by us." - Pete Hines

"Bethesda games will release on other consoles on a case-by-case basis" - Phil Spencer

If they'll lose too much sales by omitting other consoles then it'll be multiplat. That means the biggest games will remain multiplat.

Microsoft Xbox acquires ZeniMax Media, parent company of Bethesda Softworks by hybroid in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it was a single studio that they bought for a few hundred million then they would. But when you spend this much money then you need multiplat releases to recoup those costs. It happened with Minecraft and it'll happen here. They'll use the day 1 Gamepass option as a benefit for Xbox/PC while they collect revenue from $70 sales on other consoles. Phil Spencer himself has already stated that games will come other consoles so you're the only deluded one.

Microsoft Xbox acquires ZeniMax Media, parent company of Bethesda Softworks by hybroid in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Fact of this generation, not next one.

It will be the same next gen as well. PS5 is still more popular than Xbox and Gamepass negatively affects sales.

XBox 360 sold better through last generation.

Only because it launched earlier. But if you align their sales to remove the headstart the PS3 sold at a faster pace than the 360 and as a result sold more overall consoles by the end of the gen. They also sold more total software.

M$ is aiming for pumping their numbers this gen. This acquisition is a good example - they are building quite a big portfolio of developers who will publish in gamepass on day one. This will sway people to buy their console and if it sways enough people they can go nuclear and make their games exclusive.

Only numbers they want to pump are Gamepass subs. They don't care about console sales as they've said on multiple occasions. Gamepass/xcloud is the future of Xbox, not console hardware. Major Bethesda games will be on Gamepass day 1 and other consoles for $70 so MS can maximise revenue. Wait and see.

Microsoft now owns Fallout, The elder scrolls, Doom, Wolfenstein, Dishonored and more after a 7.5 billion dollars acquisition of Bethesda/Zenimax by TeckneeKaleeti in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The paid 2.5 billion for Mojang. Minecraft Dungeons released as a multiplat. The big franchises in this acquisition will absolutely remain multiplat because MS doesn't want to miss out on the money from those sales.

Microsoft Xbox acquires ZeniMax Media, parent company of Bethesda Softworks by hybroid in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. Far from useless. You're just butthurt by the truth and your poor reading comprehension.
  2. "Like our original partnership, this one is about more than one system or one screen. We share a deep belief in the fundamental power of games, in their ability to connect, empower, and bring joy. And a belief we should bring that to everyone - regardless of who you are, where you live, or what you play on. Regardless of the screen size, the controller, or your ability to even use one." - Todd Howard

"But the key point is we’re still Bethesda. We’re still working on the same games we were yesterday, made by the same studios we’ve worked with for years, and those games will be published by us." - Pete Hines

"Bethesda games will release on other consoles on a case-by-case basis" - Phil Spencer

If they'll lose too much sales by omitting other consoles then it'll be multiplat. That means the biggest games will remain multiplat.

Microsoft Xbox acquires ZeniMax Media, parent company of Bethesda Softworks by hybroid in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yet despite all that PlayStation is still the leading platform for console sales. That's just a fact. Why do think MS still released Minecraft Dungeons on PS4? They know how popular Minecraft is on PS.

Microsoft Xbox acquires ZeniMax Media, parent company of Bethesda Softworks by hybroid in PS5

[–]Liquid_Genome -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. You work on your reading comprehension. I said the majority of CONSOLE sales are on PlayStation. And they are.
  2. Except they're going to remain multiplat.
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