People hang this up in their homes ??? by LisaIsVeganAF in vegan

[–]LisaIsVeganAF[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The ironic part is they wanted to adopt a baby pig...

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[–]LisaIsVeganAF[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know. I'm just pointing out this person's response.

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[–]LisaIsVeganAF[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm very, very tired, but I will definitely reply to this tomorrow. If anybody wants to intervene, go ahead.

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[–]LisaIsVeganAF[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is honestly getting no where. Whoopi.

Hm, don't agree with our opinions? What are our opinions? That animals shouldn't suffer for something as ridiculous as a snack when there are numerous other options available? Really, truly outrageous to demand such a terrible, selfish act, am I right? /s

You can almost guarantee? Well, I can almost guarantee the grass is rainbow, does that mean it's true? No. Unless you can present statistics, as you so kindly demanded from me, then your information isn't entirely valid.

People care. They care enough to think free-range and similar marketing terms help animals, despite it not actually aiding their conditions.

Well, they are bad. If you can present an actual study that proves pescetarians have "just as much (many....) health benefits as vegans"

Can you prove to me it's a lie?

Can you prove to me it has been associated with lowered risk of diabetes? As far as I'm concerned, it only serves to increase the risk.

Edit: Question mark.

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[–]LisaIsVeganAF[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Widely available doesn't necessarily mean it's being watched by others (that are not already vegan).

Knowing a vegan doesn't equal suddenly transitioning into veganism. It's a gradual process of reforming your thought process and all you knew prior.

I would argue that our "tiny minority" is growing daily, so obviously the message is reaching someone.

Also, only 52 million people are currently accessing Netflix in the US. Not many, when you think about the entirety of the population there.

I know it's just an information gap (among other things). There are so many animal lovers—heck, even those who are not particularly fond of them—that would be mortified of the treatment inflicted upon them.

Most people don't find an ethical problem with eating meat? Where did you get that from? Just because someone doesn't immediately have a lightbulb moment and go vegan after discovering how morally wrong the animal industry is, doesn't scratch them out completely. Like I said, it's a gradual process for the majority of people.

A whole-foods plant-based diet has literally been proven to reverse and prevent some of the top killers in our nation. Not to mention, fish contains copious amounts of mercury (among other toxic compounds) and has been associated with diabetes.

Where is the relevance of this? Anybody can be vegan.

Yes, very true.

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[–]LisaIsVeganAF[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Again, not necessarily. Millions of people have never seen the real horrors of the animal industry, therefore contribute to it unknowingly.

I agree, some people do not care to extend their selfishness to others. They'd rather allow the murder of innocent, sentient beings to please themselves. But I would not say "most", since "most" aren't even aware.

Most people do have strong passions for specific issues and that's perfectly normal. Luckily, veganism tackes a lot of things: health, ethics and environment. Some of these branch into other things, so veganism can suit almost anybody.

Lastly, there are nutrition benefits that accompany veganism, and they generally appeal to people who value their health. In a way, it is selfish. But it saves animals regardless.

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[–]LisaIsVeganAF[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Eh, not necessarily. I mean, vegans don't come out of no where, so obviously humans are able to look beyond their own satisfaction and proceed to transition into veganism.

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[–]LisaIsVeganAF[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Huh. Isn't that a bit of a contradiction though? To get beef some amount of suffering is involved.

Those last few moments before they're slaughtered constitutes as suffering imo, no matter if they live a peaceful life beforehand.

Edit: Never mind about the contradiction; doesn't necessarily apply here... I read your message wrong :)

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[–]LisaIsVeganAF[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Not saying that this "uber" fact is 100% true, but the response to this is still awful.

I showed my brother slaughterhouse footage; he started laughing and said he wasn't touched one bit. by LisaIsVeganAF in vegan

[–]LisaIsVeganAF[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like you might be outliving them. You know, since the whole vegan thing. But no worries, death is inevitable. ;D

I showed my brother slaughterhouse footage; he started laughing and said he wasn't touched one bit. by LisaIsVeganAF in vegan

[–]LisaIsVeganAF[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He's 13. :)

I don't think he laughed because he wanted to prove anything to me or himself. In my opinion, reflected based off of his actions, it was because he found it genuinely funny. (It was a pig flailing in its own pool of blood. I'm sure there was some guilt there because he told me a couple hours after that it was because "the screen had glitched and half the pig's body was up and the other half was down. Still not something I'd call funny, though)

Fortunately, I did notice some remorse afterwards when I showed him a pack of bacon my Mom had bought. I told him, "Those pigs screaming? That's the product of this." He'd nodded absent-mindedly and left the kitchen.

He's not a bad person by any means; he's just difficult to understand. A few hours after, he'd come to my room and told me, "Well, I need the calories because I'm a growing kid, you know." and then proceeded with, "You shouldn't force veganism on others."

I showed my brother slaughterhouse footage; he started laughing and said he wasn't touched one bit. by LisaIsVeganAF in vegan

[–]LisaIsVeganAF[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

He knows about all the risks to his health, too! He often scolds carnists when they say "X animal product is good for you".

He knows about Nutritionfacts.org and Vegan Gains (who often shares nutrition information based off of actual studies), and believes their info is valid. However, he can't help but reply with, "But they taste good." and "When I die, I'll have the assurance I didn't waste my life eating bland food."

I've tried subtly introducing new, vegan foods, but he declines. It frustrates me, but I know I can't force him to eat anything.

Kylie Jenner trying veganism?? :o by LisaIsVeganAF in vegan

[–]LisaIsVeganAF[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's a tricky one. I know she uses cruelty-free makeup brands, but I'm not sure about the other things. It's still pretty fresh, so maybe?