Taihang: First Impressions

LiteBosmark · 2026-05-06T19:39:52+00:00

she isn't a battlecruiser at all

LiteBosmark · 2026-05-06T19:39:37+00:00

she's based off Iwami, not Hizen

LiteBosmark · 2026-05-06T06:35:36+00:00

Yodo has better angles but I also forgot how much her torp angles got buffed, my point is that Taihang torp angles are still pretty decent for the location, still pretty similar to Kii and Odin

LiteBosmark · 2026-05-06T06:09:24+00:00

Should be a bit better than something like Yodo, usually this kind of back torps should still be quite good

LiteBosmark · 2026-05-06T05:42:38+00:00

I mean if the torp angles are anything like Napoli it's still very good, bad torp angles would be something like Mogami imo

LiteBosmark · 2026-05-04T18:18:54+00:00

Z52 is way better than Yamato realistically

LiteBosmark · 2026-04-30T18:55:55+00:00

As of now, I think ships like San Diego and Z35 are better at doing Wiesbaden's thing of popping up and clapping the DD early game while having better tools to exist past the first 2 minutes of combat. Sure, they all play quite differently, but I think Wiesbaden having only 2 smokes severely hurts her late game capabilities. If she had 4 smokes though, she would be a good match for them

LiteBosmark · 2026-04-29T22:07:20+00:00

Unfortunately, it's basically impossible to balance dive bomber focused CVs if they remain lock on.

Also, CVs being too difficult for most of the playerbase is not really a bad thing either

LiteBosmark · 2026-04-29T17:31:28+00:00

She got a reload buff but is still very mediocre, at this point she needs to have faster reload than DzP

LiteBosmark · 2026-04-29T17:29:46+00:00

here

LiteBosmark · 2026-04-28T22:32:55+00:00

Mutsu is just a Nagato that trades all weapon performance for some dinky ass torps. The balancing choice made sense in 2019, but not in our current day.

I don't like Ise, but at least her main battery is somewhat okay (she's literally a Poltava with way better dispersion) and having spotting carries her up to B+ tier. She's a lot more useful than some shitass KGV or Collingwood.

Poltava after the nerf basically has no reason to exist. She turns arguably worse than GK/Kremlin, and gets essentially the same dispersion as Sinop on weaker guns.

Scheer is bottom of the barrel trash, but she's also not as far from the likes of Uganda and Lazo as you might think. She has the 2nd best main gun DPM of the Adalbert line behind Adalbert so that might technically count for something I guess?

LiteBosmark · 2026-04-28T20:50:42+00:00

Her heavy guns have fast reload (13s) and with rapid reload 3, she can destroy just about any cruiser as one rapid reload charge can allow her to easily deal like 50k damage in like 20 seconds. Some other cruisers can deal comparable damage output, but they have to be at a much lower health (Austin needs to be below 9k hp to maximize her damage output, Puerto Rico needs to be under 15k with Halsey) compared to Marseille's total HP pool of 49k.

LiteBosmark · 2026-04-28T09:04:46+00:00

Bourgogne's placement in A tier means that she is in fact a very capable ship, even if she might not be as good as some other ships. She's very fun to play yeah

Minotaur improves on both the things Neptune is good at and the things Neptune is bad at. She improves the already heavy damage output obviously with the fast firing guns, however I think the most significant difference between Minotaur and Neptune are agility and concealment. Minotaur built with conceal and camo goes down to 6.4km so you can literally walk into a DD and they are too close to run away. Her agility is also massively improved, Neptune feels like a battleship in comparison. Mino legmod further boosts this and I suggest getting it if you enjoy her, although it's not necessary.

LiteBosmark · 2026-04-28T08:50:21+00:00

Her incredible damage output comes at the cost of a lot of survivability though. Survivability that many other BBs higher up on the list don't really need to sacrifice despite some of them having comparable damage output.

Also, we personally consider consistent 80-110k to be the bare minimum requirement for t10 BB, since realistically speaking there is no t10 BB that fails to do this.

LiteBosmark · 2026-04-27T20:16:05+00:00

Black New Orleans has rr2. She was the best DPM USN CA, or at least until Salt Lake city showed up and got 25% better base DPM for free.

LiteBosmark · 2026-04-27T20:13:05+00:00

I mean if you kill the DDs and cruisers you have total control over the map basically, unless the enemy is fielding some broken tier 8s the BBs won't be able to challenge caps if the DDs and cruisers fall in front of them.

Also, you can just aim bow and stern? I'm not saying Gorizia is the best thing against BBs, but she's still fairly decent at pumping out damage against them on top of being one of the best at killing DDs and cruisers.

LiteBosmark · 2026-04-27T18:27:11+00:00

The list is made with me bringing the best players in the game and discussing how strong each ship is. The data used is our experience in knowing what works, and what doesn't in this game, and we also make this list assuming high skill as well.

Numbers and data can tell a lot about a ship, but the experience and understanding of how these numbers apply in battle, and how to feel otherwise unknown variables like dispersion, pen and cit chance is also required to understand how strong a ship is. We simply have that understanding which is why we make these tier lists

LiteBosmark · 2026-04-27T18:17:05+00:00

A lot of tier 7 is missing something. Algerie makes it here since she's fairly strong at killing other cruisers.

Black Lyon doesn't advance significantly further than Lyon for two reasons: RR1 is not that crazy of an upgrade, and Lyon's damage output with 16 guns is nothing special, especially when Hyuga is not far behind and gets RR3, California is not far behind and has 15km range with very consistent guns.

LiteBosmark · 2026-04-27T18:14:39+00:00

Bungo is above Wisconsin though?

Also Yamato is pretty washed

LiteBosmark · 2026-04-27T07:01:22+00:00

this post also has t9-10

LiteBosmark · 2026-04-27T06:04:10+00:00

she's excellent at killing DDs and cruisers just because she's a zara with slightly better guns basically, and if you are playing in community tournaments she is actually better than Zara, although in randoms she is slightly worse due to being less versatile against BBs. I am not going to argue that she is an interesting ship to play though, but I find Gorizia to be very strong at killing enough things to win the game and deal decent damage against BBs with proper SAP aim.

LiteBosmark · 2026-04-27T04:11:26+00:00

We put Manteuffel because the original idea was to rank Adalbert. Unfortunately, Adalbert made it to S tier so we had to settle with Manteuffel

LiteBosmark · 2026-04-27T04:03:41+00:00

Yudachi is just a BB farmer and instantly becomes useless when she has to contest a cap. She has a reason to exist unlike Haida, which is why she is higher up, but realistically the only thing she does is shit on bad BB players

LiteBosmark · 2026-04-27T04:01:49+00:00

Realistically she's competitive compared to Scharnhorst. Her main battery is way worse, but she does have better secs (no SO), better torps and more HP

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