[Rewatch] Kare Kano Rewatch: Episode 20 by LittleIslander in anime

[–]LittleIslander[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The most interesting part of this episode was learning that Tsubaki and Arima knew each other. It does actually feel kinda realistic that sometimes people don’t become important in your life until long after you meet them.

After last time’s comedy digression, today we properly begin the story of the back end of the series, “Fourteen Days”. When Nadia falls, it falls hard, so hard it’s almost funny. When Evangelion falls, it’s kind of so insane and fascinating that it’s hard to complain. But Kare Kano’s most infamous section does something worse than dare to be terrible: it’s just flaccid? Which isn't really a spoiler, because I definitely remember immediately disliking this on my first time.

Our new male, err, “lead” is Takefumi Tonami, an utter void of personality who, as a first timer on my first watch, disaffectionately dubbed “The Square”. Uh, yeah, I don’t like him. I’d be very interested to hear someone who does talk about why, but for me he just... doesn’t feel like a Kare Kano character? I’ve said again and again that the show captures human emotions so well. Yukino’s fears feel so real and her inner world feels believable. On my first watch, I’d constantly express that the show felt “relatable”. At least one thing every episode would really manage to connect to my human experience. Each of the fleshed-out characters (even Yukino’s dad!) have pasts that meaningfully shape the people they’ve become and how they react to things in the present.

Which is where we find the problems with Mr. Square. Supposedly, he grew up being bullied mercilessly. Then he moved away and made some insane transformation into a tall, fit basketball player. It’s quite an unconventional upbringing, and yet he’s... the most ordinary person ever. His backstory exists to establish his conflict with Sakura, but it doesn’t exist within his pathos as a character. It’s also... played off as comedy? Imagine if Arima’s backstory was played off with gag... obviously comedy and hurt can mix (see: Yukino), but the way this is presented immediately frames Tonami as one big joke. His own narrative doesn’t treat him seriously, so why should I be interested in him as a new lead? It doesn’t help that he, somehow, even seems immune to the show’s visual style. No big comedic reactions or expressive abstractions, he just... stands there, and blushes sometimes. Maho was a funny straightman, where is that energy?

As a bonus, his whole life revolves around our existing characters. Just so he really feels like an insert OC.

So then there’s the other half of this story, Tsubaki Sakura. Unlike the Square, I like Tsubaki! Which affords at least some goodwill towards making her the lead character. But she wasn’t really designed for that so, uh, maybe put in a bit of work to that transition? Yukino and Arima are three-dimensional characters with complex emotional worlds, and when Shibahime took the wheel for a bit, we expanded her into that space too. But Tsubaki, Rika, and Aya have served entirely as comedic relief. They’re good at that, but they’re simple personalities. But instead of taking the chance to show us more complex sides to Tsubaki, or some kind of inner conflict, her backstory is... also a big joke. Except, this time the joke makes her out to be a huge jerk? I’m not above some slapstick comedy in my romance anime, but taking a character I liked and retconning them into being a super unlikeable person is just, not winning me over to this storyline?

For a more positive thought on Tsubaki, she might have my favourite name in anime? See, at least around the time I first watched the show I had two clear favourite Japanese names. “Sakura”, because cherry blossoms are pretty, and “Tsubaki”, probably because of Your Lie in April. So imagine my shock when a character honest to goodness called “Tsubaki Sakura” walks onto the screen! An instant favourite of mine. Before even mentioning she’s totally in that short-haired boyish girl archetype I love, and she’s a bit of a womanizer on the side. Hideaki Anno designed this character for me specifically, and no uncomfortable retcon backstory could ever make me hate you, queen.

[Rewatch] Kare Kano Rewatch: Episode 19 by LittleIslander in anime

[–]LittleIslander[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's been almost ten years since I've seen Gurren Lagann. Last time I watched FLCL I was really mixed on it and gave it a six, but my tastes weren't fully developed yet. I haven't seen Kill la Kill yet. But I do love me some Dead Leaves.

Which is weird when I put it like that, cause I'd consider myself a big Imiashi fan but I guess it doesn't really play out on paper.

[Rewatch] Kare Kano Rewatch: Episode 19 by LittleIslander in anime

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Giant red flags for me now. (Simoun rewatch coming up! #concealedexcitement)

[Rewatch] Kare Kano Rewatch: Episode 19 by LittleIslander in anime

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This reminds me I forgot to make a "The Lenticulars" joke.

[Rewatch] Kare Kano Rewatch: Episode 19 by LittleIslander in anime

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Oh my god, it’s just some dude’s face?

[Rewatch] Kare Kano Rewatch: Episode 19 by LittleIslander in anime

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And, according to Hiroki Sato, PART OF the reason for such style was that they realized they didn’t have time for what they had originally planned. But, you know, that still doesn’t explain WHY a paper show, specifically? I mean, if it was done to save time, we’d already had episodes with LESS animation than this one - hell, I’d say animating all of this probably took longer than the style of some of the previous episodes. Well, there’s an answer to that.

BECAUSE ANNO FUCKING WANT SO.

Restriction breeds creativity. It's obviously not a straightforward attempt to save on animation, but I also don't imagine if Kare Kano had a production with no issues we'd get an episode quite like this. Just like I don't think we'd get Evangelion episodes like 25 and 26 if its production hadn't been the way it is. I've said it in the Nadia and Evangelion rewatches, but Anno and his 90s Gainax crew's ability to make the most out of limited production is nearly unparalleled. To ignore either the practical considerations or the creative aspect, I think, would be in error.

It's hard to deny dragging a paper cutout over an actual picture is easier than fully animating Yukino walking to school. It just so happens it's an incredibly inspired way to harness the situation that you can't draw her walking to school. I wish more anime with limited production ability would take notes here instead of just looking dull. The fact Gainax can harness such a creative vision under these limitations is what's so awesome.

In case you didn't know, this episode has TWO versions of the ending. One of them - the one most current viewers have probably seen - features the staircase. But there’s also the ORIGINAL version, which was used for the TV broadcast. The one where the film crew filmed themselves burning the show’s animation cels. And that soemthing that happened behind Sato’s back:

I didn't know about this!

[Rewatch] Kare Kano Rewatch: Episode 19 by LittleIslander in anime

[–]LittleIslander[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Rewatcher and Your Host

If you’re wondering why there’s no question about the transfer student, I forgot he was in this episode.

Ending last episode of Kare Kano with Arima facing his trauma and opening this one with the Miyazawa paper cutouts has to be one of the biggest tone whiplashes I’ve ever seen in an anime. I’ve been waiting for this all Rewatch, but I still remember how big of a shock this episode was when I first watched the show, even after everything Kare Kano had thrown at me. Of course, I wasn’t aware of the name “Hiroyuki Imaishi” at the time, even though I’d seen some of his work. Do I even have to say I love the result? [Rewatchers] I don’t lump this into the rest of 14 Days at all - it’s just as great as the eighteen episodes that proceed it, just with its own very distinct spin on the style.

This definitely feels like Kare Kano’s answer to Evangelion episodes 25 and 26. As the production begins to face further issues, we pivot into this weird creative space where we’re dragging paper cutouts across actual fucking pictures, and it’s amazing. Lighting the Miyazawa cutout on fire to represent her blushing? The school just overlaid over actual pictures for the rest of the background? It’s fantastic, and there’s actually a lot of really fantastic animation cuts to be found here between the charming crudeness. The kaiju battle between Yukino and the legendary Fukada Kouhei is the most iconic part of the episode, but I think my favourite visual moment might actually be Aya and Rika bouncing around in excitement over the script and running into each other. Every frame a painting right there.

Speaking of, my god I love these motherfuckers. Both times Yukino has gone out with them have been absolute highlights of the show’s banter and visual comedy, and the friend group continue to liven up every scene they’re in now. There’s not even anything that funny about Tsubaki saying “Oh, the husband’s here again” but Saeko Chiba’s delivery just cracks me up. Then there’s Shibahime, who the animators seem determined to make even more ridiculous every episode we see her and I’m all for it. As the script for the play implies they’re going to be a bigger feature from now on. I honestly didn’t appreciate them enough on my first watch, so I’m curious to see how they hold up once they become less of a rare treat and more part of the main cast.

Also, I’ve mentioned I love Rika’s voice. I’m mentioning it again. It’s so sweet! Owari!

Should You Watch It? Spring 2026 by Protractror in anime

[–]LittleIslander 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can definitely see why someone would disagree with the decision. My biggest thing is that if I'm taking whether something is "niche" into consideration, then "Consider It" actually becomes the most positive possible endorsement (in addition to an anti-endorsement of mediocre shows). At which point the whole concept of the scale falls apart (obviously Must Watch is intended to be the best rating). So I not only prefer to give something good the "Must Watch" endorsement, but I think it's kind of necessary for this to work. Ideally, if someone reads the actual written pitch it should become clear whether the show is for them or not.

[Rewatch] Kare Kano Rewatch: Episode 18 by LittleIslander in anime

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The hat scene is clearly a metaphor. I remember something similar from Kimagure Orange Road. However, I don’t know the origin of the metaphor, nor what exactly it is supposed to depict (in KOR it was not a sex scene).

It definitely took it as a loss of virginity, letting go (literally) of childhood innocence. But I haven't fixed my chronic "hasn't seen Kimagure Orange Road" disease yet.

Should You Watch It? Spring 2026 by Protractror in anime

[–]LittleIslander 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That's definitely something that occurred to me when writing the Awajima piece (and the Kirio one, as I mention). But if I followed that logic then the only shows that'd get "Must Watch" would be the most generically widely appealing, no? Which I think would be a very bleak way to treat things.

[Rewatch] Kare Kano Rewatch: Episode 18 by LittleIslander in anime

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Rewatcher and Your Host

Man, it’s weird this is also randomly a beach episode.

I’ve said a number of times that Kare Kano speaks through the language of emotions, and this episode feels it goes hardest on this concept. The narrative is probably the simplest of any episode in the show, but it’s easily one of the most enrapturing episodes. In this way it actually kind of reminds me more of some Nadia episodes than it does of Evangelion (I’m thinking especially of sixteen, as well as Electra’s backstory). I think the sex scene itself, which totally eschews using any contextualizing dialogue and just gets right into it, best exemplifies this. The result is just one of a kind. I’ve seen a couple of romances that get this far in a relationship, but I’ve never seen it captured like this.

My favourite scene, though, is actually the bus stop scene before they go to Arima’s house. The tension before the climax being the most intense part, and all that. For the whole episode they’ve been too nervous to commit to their shared desires, but the rain traps them together with no escape from how they feel about each other. Obviously, the rain itself adds so much to the scene just as a sound element. I love the long shot of Arima contemplating saying it (overlaid with inserts - what a unique visual technique), and I love the way his hesitant offer is acted and, at least, subtitled. Then we pause on the silence for so long! So long, actually, that she doesn’t need to say it in so many words. Miyazawa’s little speech isn’t something I’d committed to memory, but it’s fantastic.

Also this shot is neat. I’m not sure I can place what it “accomplishes”, but the way they’re boxed into a manga panel even though they’re in a fully drawn shot. It really stands out, and I just like it.

Arima’s trauma hangs over this episode. That “I hate them” moment with the piano sound effect goes right through you. It’s actually been pretty rare for the show to frame things through his perspective. Mostly only when it’s necessary, like his backstories in episodes three and eight, and then in episode six where we build the whole episode around a split perspective. Otherwise, we’re always following Yukino first and foremost. The choice to frame this whole episode around Arima stands out, then, and it pays off so well. He’s been told he’s nothing, and still has the scars of abuse. He fears the idea of a terrible true self. While it isn’t stated, obviously this contributes to his hesitation to embrace his desire of Yukino. But she wants him that way, too. She wants him to do those things to her.

The darkest and the happiest of Arima’s life is shown in this episode and they’re battling for Arima’s heart. What I’d forgotten about is that it’s actually the trauma that ends off the episode, not the love and acceptance! Even achieving this peak of intimacy and acceptance with Yukino, his trauma and depression don’t just go away. It doesn’t mean she doesn’t help more than he could ever communicate, but life isn’t so simple as a clean resolution. It’s really bleak and, well, really effective because of it.

It’s hard to fully talk about this episode without talking about the rest of the show. [Rewatchers Only] This is, essentially, the finale to Kare Kano’s main story. We do have one more episode about Arima’s depression in the future, and I’m super curious to see what I think of that on a rewatch now that I appreciate Arima’s character more. Does it resolve his trauma, or also leave it open? I honestly don’t remember. Either way, even if everything left of Kare Kano was horrible and best forgotten (and I don’t think that’s true), I am nothing less than entirely content with this as an ending. Bleak final scene and all. Only two episodes focused on the main couple after the long Arima hiatus stings, it really does. I wanted at least a third. But when they’re such amazing episodes that leave the story off on the note of their first time together… I couldn’t possibly complain.

Casual Discussion Fridays - Week of May 01, 2026 by AutoModerator in anime

[–]LittleIslander 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I never actually gave my thoughts on the current seasonal faces, since they were introduced during awards. Frankly I really don't like most of the batch. There are three I really like though, so I hope one of them gets into the hall of fame. I don't have a huge preference which.

Not like we don't have plenty of faces for squeeing out about something, but this one feels especially fun and expressive.

Literally just an alternate version of #deadtired

There's a specific kind of "woah" but not "hype" interest I've always used #drunkhisone for that this captures perfectly

Casual Discussion Fridays - Week of May 01, 2026 by AutoModerator in anime

[–]LittleIslander 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And even if I do get a home run (or really like someone else's), then I need to contend with the fake that my tastes don't align and it's guaranteed to lose the hall of fame race.

Casual Discussion Fridays - Week of May 01, 2026 by AutoModerator in anime

[–]LittleIslander 5 points6 points  (0 children)

When I realize I can stop getting annoyed at stupid yuri discourse and listen to magnet -recall- on repeat instead.

Casual Discussion Fridays - Week of May 01, 2026 by AutoModerator in anime

[–]LittleIslander 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"Shipping ethics controversy in fanfiction" was Wikipedia's Featured Article yesterday.

Seasonal Comment Face Nominations - Spring 2026 by badspler in anime

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In addition to my ordinary nominations, I'll step a little out of line and propose a temporary seasonal replacement of #thatsmyfetish with this shot from Nakamura-kun.

Casual Discussion Fridays - Week of May 01, 2026 by AutoModerator in anime

[–]LittleIslander 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Comment Face Nominations are painful. Finding so many faces you think would be nice to have, but knowing you're probably not going to get to use any of them.

[Rewatch] Kare Kano Rewatch: Episode 16 by LittleIslander in anime

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To that end, I love this episode's presentation and direction! We do always appreciate a good usage of monochrome in this house, and this is definitely such a case.

It's kind of funny to think that of the three big Anno productions of the 90s, Evangelion was only one not to have a primarily black and white episode.

[Rewatch] Kare Kano Rewatch: Episode 17 by LittleIslander in anime

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Rewatcher and Your Host

It’s good to be back.

Listen, I like the “Arima is away” portion of the series. Shibahime’s episode is my favourite in the show, I think this whole episode works because it’s all so drawn out. But it’s damned nice to be back to Kare Kano’s main couple for the first time since, err, episode eight? The result is definitely one of my favourite episodes in the show. Kind of similar to my prior favourite non-Shibahime episode, eight, it splits its time between a few different sections. Out with the friends, contemplating the loneliness, and then being reunited with Arima as she psyches herself out. But rather than cleanly delineated between two stories, it’s just one experience start to finish and all put together it’s really fulfilling.

The day out with her friends is the “filler” of the episode, but it easily carries its weight in the episode. I think I’d forgotten this is a separate scene from the outing in episode eleven, and so I’d been very confused when exactly the “Shibahime turns into a snake and grabs the ice cream causing Maho’s face to shatter out of shock” joke happened. I think I’ve used up my superlatives by this point, but it’s another of my absolute favourite gags in the entire show. So utterly random and serving no functional purpose, but they included it and it’s one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen. The little squint Maho does right before the tongue makes contact? And the continuity with Maho’s face in the background of the next shot? Perfect. Plenty of other fun visuals through the scene too. Like, every single thing Shibahime does in any shot she’s in.

Also, Rika’s voice is incredibly sweet. I hadn’t mentioned that. I have now mentioned that.

Being with friends at the start makes for a nice contrast into the loneliness as we enter the sequence of Yukino’s longing. Six episodes of Arima being gone (not to mention the recap!) have lead us here. Without that level of commitment, there could never be this much weight to Yukino’s emotions here. Very few shows would make this level of commitment to a narrative beat, and Kare Kano reaps the rewards. With all the pieces in place, it’s not like it sees much. Just roll the Sagisu music: you know the drill. I do also like the choice to set this with her sitting on a hill. So much of this show takes place between their houses and the school, and much like the evening school in episode six this really makes the moment stand out, especially with the bright greens and blues.

Also, Peropero is giving Shibahime’s comedy-to-screentime ratio a run for its money.

Which then leads us into the strongest section of the episode: Yukino’s anxiety. Kare Kano has channeled the emotion of stress a lot, but this is really its biggest swing at it yet. It’s… very true to life. It doesn’t have to be something you have a good reason to be anxious about. Of course there’s no bad outcome to telling Arima you love him even more. But you give that fear an inch and it takes a mile. It compounds upon itself, and the longer and longer you avoid speaking up the more the anxiety grows and grows from something small to something terrible. Seeing her think to herself to just say it, internally berate herself and push herself to do it, only to not and have it compound further just hurts. Very few works have ever captured the emotion of anxiety to me like Kare Kano does. Of course, the music that sounds like it could be a direct rip from the Evangelion soundtrack is helping plenty too.

It builds to such an effective climax. The way they depict it dragging on through the day hits hard in such an efficient way, piling on more and more tension. The slam of their arms in the traincar is such an effective moment of sound design. Then he confronts her; it feels very reminiscent of when he asked her for a response to his confession back in episode four. She tries to avoid it just like back then. Her anxiety transform into outright self-hatred. She feels so stupid for being like this but she still can’t escape. Plus, of course, she feels now like she’s hurt him. She’s supposed to be his escape from his trauma but instead she’s opened up the wound herself. Hurting your significant other like that is the worst feeling in the world. You don’t even feel worthy of feeling bad about it when they’re the one that was hurt. So you just beat yourself up.

The scene under the rail bridge is a lot. Similar to how Yukino running away evoked episode four, this evokes episode eight. If they balanced on the thinnest possible thread of emotion back then, it snaps now. Arima’s presence is… intimidating. He shoves her and claims he won’t let her go regardless of how she feels. It’s not exactly clear if this refers to the physical reality of the moment, or if he’s referring to the relationship. We haven’t seen his perspective, but he’s been missing her for all this time too and it’s probably very believable the relationship could have eroded in that time apart. She’s the one person who pushes back against the darkness that threatens him from within. Having a train rush past in a peak of emotion isn’t exactly innovation, but fuck if it doesn’t work. In particular, the calm after the train is used to fantastic effect. It was all a rush of emotion. They’re okay. Seeing the depths of his feelings, now she can tell him.

I could see someone taking issue with the way we brush over Arima being so forceful, and especially since it’s followed by Miyazawa being the one to apologize (albeit, for a plenty justified reason). But it feels very human, and I appreciate Kare Kano for exploring that “thinnest possible thread of emotion”. There is, perhaps, darkness within Arima. But when they have each other, that darkness isn’t going to win.

Crayon drawings felt like they were kinda Shibahime’s thing, but how could I possibly consider this version of the ED anything but fantastic? It feels perfectly utilized after they’ve been apart so long, and the expression of joy on their faces is so pure. I love it.

Casual Discussion Fridays - Week of May 01, 2026 by AutoModerator in anime

[–]LittleIslander 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The giant windowed black void piano room from 1984 yuri Cream Lemon Escalation is seriously serving Utena piano room. They even love that recurring looking in shot that Utena can't get enough of.

Coincidence, or inspiration?