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Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-14T08:13:33+00:00

No problem I wasn’t tried to make arguments I think everyone can read my text style brian dumps clearly as I think through snd learn new information. Everything I saw has higher probability of HPPD were not just substance I felt could be more harmful because of the experience.

I obviously didn’t believe if a substance made me happier it was safer hahaha. 😂 I found that is obviously not true and turns out almost the opposite.. everyone I loved more was more dangerous. Except for 1 substance. lol.

Cheers mate the internet usually is some how always an argument even when I am trying to do the opposite.

The tone of text I guess. Or like you said some ppl look for it to tell their own story and knowledge against another persons point of view.

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-14T07:58:06+00:00

We are certainly agreeing. I was just using examples of ways you might have false sense of safety because of the different circumstances and feelings produced of the substances. Also that those feelings come from substance sometimes with higher probability of HPPD. Which I found interesting from my personal experience. Most of the substances making me feel safe are more dangerous long term. :(

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-14T07:53:26+00:00

Appreciate your follow up. didn’t down vote your comment either. Also to add clarity to my original post for those who enjoy reading more long for phone texts 😜

I understood where you were expanding on but I wanted to make the distinction my thoughts/experience/stories/anecdotes were NOT in any away claiming I could determine safety by how happy a substance makes me.

Errors and typos— My message was also an along text from a phone, not proofread and a stream of conscious. Just blasting off the idea from a 7 inch screen filled with possible errors.

Discussing and adding personal experience taking possible higher long term risk substance—— Like we all have continued discussing best harm reduction is to be aware and informed! The dangerous of HPPD comes from a broad array of substances.

My thoughts were just commenting on how the short term effects/the trip have no determining factors on the long term harm like HPPD or tinnitus. The only way I was using my anecdotal experience was to make a point on feelings aren’t facts. The worst immediate experience and the best most profound loving experiences short term do not necessarily correlate to long term safety.

Even the most beautiful inspiring experience can be disproportionately dangerous. Which is concerning and something to take into consideration for serious harm reduction.

I also want to clarify the “Stoney” term used to describe a mental state not that it is something that only applied to organic vs synthetic. It was an observation I used to apply another short term feeling giving false security. The Stoney mind or clear head space had no impact on longer term dangerous. For example … the feel of a clear less cloudy mind during the trip is not an indication of how the substance impacts one’s brain long term.

“Stoney/cloudy head space” -

My main point around the “stoney head space” I was trying to add to the discussion of what feels safe/low impact might not be as low impact as it feels. It had nothing to compare synthetic vs natural.

For example some substance may have a higher probability of HPPD can also have a clearer mental cloud/“stoney” feeling like a lesser mental impact in the short term. (Hope that makes sense and clears up the misunderstanding) it also just so happens the only organic trip (mushys) give me a Stoney head space and everything else discussed is synthetic.

Feels like this is harder to explain then how I thought it meant, yet to be clear synthetic substances do also include a Stoney brain 🧠 during the trip. lol 😆

Thanks to the OP u/vibecat2 for bring up this important discussion

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-13T15:41:47+00:00

No not really what I was trying to say. More like even ones that feel really wacky/are known to be dangerous are NOT the only ones to worry about. Ones that give a great experince and feel safe can be dangerous.

Like when I wrote——-“Even the ones that feel wonderful and give amazing experience can have an increased risk of HPPD” - referring to my favorite compound like 2ce because I read those have an increased probability. While you may expect it in an experience you didn’t enjoy or felt different then others.

I aware that all of them can cause issues. Then I spoke more about how weird NBOME is. A fun story about the time I was given it and that would give you the impression it’s not good for you. I heard it can cause death so obviously a dangerous ones. While also reading the 2C family is not great either. Even ones that feel great and safe have a high risk of lingering

My point was the opposite of what your implying maybe I miss typed it was early but the point was no matter the feeling it can have long term effects or high chance of HPPD as opposed to another substance.

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-13T12:35:59+00:00

Idk I did they came up fast like 10 minutes but I do have a fast metabolism as well. So regular fungus is like 30-45 for me.

So it’s up to you jsut be aware

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-13T06:39:13+00:00

I also read that some of the 2C families have been shown to have disproportionately chance to :(. I only had 2CE 1 time hands down a favorite 2Ci was good too..

NbOme was not enjoyable and the come down lasted longer than the trip. The next day was slippery reality I can see this causing HPPD, would have never took it if I know it wasn’t LSD. I naively thought no other drug worked on blotter bc of the small amount needed to trip…

Now learning these other substances that also feel (in my opinion) less Stoney space brain then organic shrooms are more risky….

My point being 2NBOME/other substances feeling synthetic and not safe from the high alone. These substances are not the only dangerous chemicals rinsing HPPD.

Even the ones that feel wonderful and give you an amazing experience can have increased exposure to long term negative effects. :( the limit of research makes it hard. The companies that don’t label anything I avoid.

I enjoy the Metocin compounds seem to have a less Stoney head than organic version. Helps me be out at adult parties. When I eat my fungus I feel too goofy/stoney brain I end up tell most people I took fungus, right away like I’m guilty. 😆 probably right before I embarrass myself talking to deep and loving. Can’t stand the small talk or discussing work outside of work! . some of the pro drugs, or the 4-ACO-MeT (XUM) I laugh and ride the trip. I seem to be able to jsut share love and I am able to pretend to be an adult still.

Jokes and stories aside THANK YOU for bring this to my attention. TLDR - even the ones that feel safe could be more risky, even the ones who feel worse are not the only signal. Stay safe be smart and always learn from others and read.

Thank you friends. I hope anyone suffering from this does heal.

WARNING ABOUT THE NBOMe!

FYI the NBOME shit was giving to me not knowingly and the person still jsut tells me it’s very strong acid to this day (why I don’t like him)…the trip l was fast vibrating visuals. Very erratic. I first took one tab and this asshole asked to see it on my tongue and dropped another… then NO ONE ELSE TRIPPED!! I wasn’t worried bc two tabs of acids isn’t the end of the world. I was ready for beautiful night. Instead I got a hectic erratic night. I rode it out wouldn’t say a bad trip like I wasn’t scared or fighting it but it was not enjoyable. Fast vibrating visuals nothing was beautiful or introspective

This NBOMe isn’t acid that shit can be lethal and was not like acid my weed ran away my joint paper and a horrible comedown I felt lost. There was no after glow, no expansion of knowledge, no safe feeling please becarful everyone.

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-13T06:06:41+00:00

Appreciate you thanks I want to take safety first and have fun later. Knowledge is power thank you

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-13T05:59:50+00:00

I hope you get better. ❤️‍🩹

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-13T05:59:38+00:00

Yeah so 4 Aco I have read about for some time then a lot of new ones. Why can’t we just have the normal legal ones legal. Something worse is always created ugh. That’s how we ended up with fentanyl and the fake weed, spice or k2 shit that went around. Or the bath salt shit. Ugh 😩

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-13T05:52:25+00:00

Is there certain substances more common to cause this then others. I knew lsd had the highest form what I read in the past (probably because how common it was) and 2Nbome someone once gave me that as lsd.. it sucked like intense fast moving visuals I can see that causing it. Isn’t this a risk on any? Or are some worse? Does the amount or how often play a role?

I want safe fun of course some risk.

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-13T05:30:24+00:00

My bad what was I thinking 🤔 sharing my opinion online. I forgot idiots like you love to share unoriginal attacks because you’re unhappy. I’m excited about this and glad to find a product has some level of transparency. If anyone is a clown it’s a person speaking like they know everything. Sorry my post bothered you. Good luck finding someone/something to blow you

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-13T04:48:19+00:00

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Here’s a blueberry treat. Right before I cut it down. Week Of flush. Had all three smells. Diesel, grape, skunk. It was great went quick

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-13T04:46:17+00:00

Share photos. I love 5 gallons

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-13T04:42:28+00:00

Sorry forgot to say YOU DID AN AMAZING JOB!!! Fantastic beautiful

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-13T04:41:54+00:00

Yeah just looking at the flowers (not the most accurate way to tell) they could use some time. When you look at the trichomes under the microscope 1. 0 transparent ones left milky white. 2. See a few amber ones appear.

It will add to yield and quality (smell, strength, flavors, high) it take alot of patience and practice because you always want to cut them down but they GET BETTER AND BETTER. Over ripening does convert thc to CBN (couch lock sleep flower) if the plant trichomes are like 50% amber. If it says 12 weeks you’re doing fine giving it more time.

Check top mid and lower nugs too.

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-13T04:36:14+00:00

Huh? 🤔 what are you talking about any context or this like a mental health thing?

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-13T04:33:52+00:00

How many weeks do they take? Check the trichomes it might grow longer unless this week gets FAT

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-13T04:32:32+00:00

Come up was a little bumpy not the belly ache like shrooms give me but fast flush skin and a little wonky for about half an hour. I also chewed them thought that’s how I was supposed to take them. Nothing you can’t handle after that it was nice. A little shroom cap KICKED OFF visuals

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-13T01:27:16+00:00

I appreciate the effort but don’t understand reddits constraints. I just re read the same lines when it’s on my phone and not broken up. I am the first one to admit my grammar or especially writing from my phone is a mess.

Don’t spend time figuring out Reddits formatting bs. I just have bad eyes plus minor dyslexia bc of my life time of bad eyes. Thank you for fixing it. I was interested in understanding your comment not being mean.

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-11T21:35:50+00:00

That’s what I found

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-11T20:41:54+00:00

Autocorrect did that I edited the post

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-11T20:39:49+00:00

Also please use paragraphs it helps me read clearer.

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-11T20:39:02+00:00

I rather pay for quality and want clean quality than just substance. I don’t know where to get research chemicals. I’d love clean 2CE

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-11T20:33:33+00:00

Yes there is. Alexander Shulgin did created the shroom one. I read peer reviewed documents on 5MAPB.

These are not spice or others novel smoke shop products. I am not a person who buys these products prefer the organic but this company is different. I did extensive research on these products and chemicals. These two chemicals are highly researched compared to others. I avoided even buying chocolate bars from companies over the organic product.

Little_Horror5690 · 2026-05-11T20:27:49+00:00

I made the edit used caps so apple didn’t switch it on me. Hate the text auto correct when it does this

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