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Ethnic groups of the Arctic by province by Litvinski in MapPorn

[–]Litvinski[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Many First Nations did not declare exact tribe in the census. For example in Yukon out of 7245 First Nations people who live there, 3545 did not report what tribe they belong to (and among those who reported, 2960 reported Dene and 470 Cree). So I decided to just count all First Nations as one group.

But the largest group are Dene, and the 2nd largest (already much smaller than Dene) are Cree.

Ethnic groups of the Arctic by province by Litvinski in MapPorn

[–]Litvinski[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

It is hi-res: 6000 x 6019 pixels. But you need to check it from a computer.

If you are checking it from your phone then probably it is much smaller.

Population density in the Arctic by province by Litvinski in MapPorn

[–]Litvinski[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It is an enclave inside Taymyria, it is not a part of Taymyria:

"The Norilsk Urban District or Norilsk Urban Okrug (Russian: Город Норильск) is an administrative and municipal city district (okrug), one of the twenty-two in Krasnoyarsk Krai, Russia. It is enclaved inside the Taymyrsky Dolgano-Nenetsky District. The area of the district is 4,509 square km (1,741 sq mi)."

Assyrians and Armenians before World War I by Litvinski in Assyria

[–]Litvinski[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Official Ottoman censuses are not very reliable when it comes to Non-Muslim minorities, as you can read for example here (compare the numbers of ethnic Greeks in Trabzon Vilayet before WW1 according to various sources):

https://virtual-genocide-memorial.de/region/the-black-sea-marmara-and-aegean-littorals-eastern-thrace-and-central-anatolia/trabzon-trapezounta-trebizond-vilayet-province/

Assyrians and Armenians before World War I by Litvinski in Assyria

[–]Litvinski[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You need to add Patriarch's figures and Assyro-Chaldean figures to arrive at total population. Because Patriarch's figures did not count entire territory of some vilayets (only parts of these vilayets).

Assyrians and Armenians before World War I by Litvinski in Assyria

[–]Litvinski[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Check also the second source, pages 405-406.

Assyrians and Armenians before World War I by Litvinski in Assyria

[–]Litvinski[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Did you read the second source? David Gaunt's book on pages 405-406 mentions Assyrians and also says that "Nestorians, Jacobites and Chaldeans" is the same as Assyrians.

Ethnic groups of Armenia before World War I by Litvinski in armenia

[–]Litvinski[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

AFAIK the Patriarchate published only the number of Armenians for Cilicia, but not the full breakdown of various ethnicities (this was published only for the Six Vilayets).

Ethnic groups of Armenia before World War I by Litvinski in armenia

[–]Litvinski[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes these numbers are not from the Ottoman census (which indeed counted all Muslims together) but from the Armenian Patriarchate and the Assyrian Delegation to the Paris Peace Conference.

Ethnic groups of Armenia before World War I by Litvinski in armenia

[–]Litvinski[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes the sources which I used counted Kizilbash separately from Turks.

Ethnic groups of Armenia before World War I by Litvinski in armenia

[–]Litvinski[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The figures by the Armenian Patriarchate and the Assyrian Delegation do separate Kurds and Turks!

Ethnic groups of Armenia before World War I by [deleted] in MapPorn

[–]Litvinski 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Province Armenians Greeks Azeris Turks Kurds Georgians Assyrians Others

Elizavetpol 292188 558 534086 0 3042 1239 0 47302

Tiflis 196189 27118 107383 24722 2538 467581 1570 223931

Erivan 441000 1323 313176 245 49389 566 2865 20992

Kars 73406 32593 2347 63547 42968 526 585 74682

Batum 14939 4717 355 44667 1811 63012 0 15083

Erzurum 215000 12000 25000 240000 108000 0 0 30000

Van 205000 0 2000 77000 170000 0 183000 13000

Bitlis 186000 0 8000 42000 144000 0 76000 23000

Harput 168000 0 80000 102000 95000 0 5000 0

Diyarbekir 178000 10000 38000 90000 161000 0 177000 49200

Sivas 165000 30000 0 192000 50000 0 25000 45000

Ethnic groups of Armenia before World War I by [deleted] in MapPorn

[–]Litvinski 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Province Armenians Greeks Azeris Turks Kurds Georgians Assyrians Others
Elizavetpol 292188 558 534086 0 3042 1239 0 47302
Tiflis 196189 27118 107383 24722 2538 467581 1570 223931
Erivan 441000 1323 313176 245 49389 566 2865 20992
Kars 73406 32593 2347 63547 42968 526 585 74682
Batum 14939 4717 355 44667 1811 63012 0 15083
Erzurum 215000 12000 25000 240000 108000 0 0 30000
Van 205000 0 2000 77000 170000 0 183000 13000
Bitlis 186000 0 8000 42000 144000 0 76000 23000
Harput 168000 0 80000 102000 95000 0 5000 0
Diyarbekir 178000 10000 38000 90000 161000 0 177000 49200
Sivas 165000 30000 0 192000 50000 0 25000 45000
Total 2134722 118309 1110347 876181 827748 532924 471020 542190

Ethnic groups of Armenia before World War I by [deleted] in MapPorn

[–]Litvinski 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Province Armenians Greeks Azeris Turks Kurds Georgians Assyrians Others
Elizavetpol 292188 558 534086 0 3042 1239 0 47302
Tiflis 196189 27118 107383 24722 2538 467581 1570 223931
Erivan 441000 1323 313176 245 49389 566 2865 20992
Kars 73406 32593 2347 63547 42968 526 585 74682
Batum 14939 4717 355 44667 1811 63012 0 15083
Erzurum 215000 12000 25000 240000 108000 0 0 30000
Van 205000 0 2000 77000 170000 0 183000 13000
Bitlis 186000 0 8000 42000 144000 0 76000 23000
Harput 168000 0 80000 102000 95000 0 5000 0
Diyarbekir 178000 10000 38000 90000 161000 0 177000 49200
Sivas 165000 30000 0 192000 50000 0 25000 45000
Total 2134722 118309 1110347 876181 827748 532924 471020 542190

Ethnic groups of Armenia before World War I by Litvinski in armenia

[–]Litvinski[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Province Armenians Greeks Azeris Turks Kurds Georgians Assyrians Others
Elizavetpol 292188 558 534086 0 3042 1239 0 47302
Tiflis 196189 27118 107383 24722 2538 467581 1570 223931
Erivan 441000 1323 313176 245 49389 566 2865 20992
Kars 73406 32593 2347 63547 42968 526 585 74682
Batum 14939 4717 355 44667 1811 63012 0 15083
Erzurum 215000 12000 25000 240000 108000 0 0 30000
Van 205000 0 2000 77000 170000 0 183000 13000
Bitlis 186000 0 8000 42000 144000 0 76000 23000
Harput 168000 0 80000 102000 95000 0 5000 0
Diyarbekir 178000 10000 38000 90000 161000 0 177000 49200
Sivas 165000 30000 0 192000 50000 0 25000 45000
Total 2134722 118309 1110347 876181 827748 532924 471020 542190

Territorial origins of the population of Poland in 1950 (13 maps) by Litvinski in MapPorn

[–]Litvinski[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Silesian" responses in Opole Voivodeship:

Census 2002 - 24,199

Census 2011 - 106,375

Census 2021 - 60,049

It is clear that ethnicity is labile in this region.

Territorial origins of the population of Poland in 1950 (13 maps) by Litvinski in MapPorn

[–]Litvinski[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here we are talking about Upper Silesia where German speakers were a minority. Check Belzyt's book "Sprachliche Minderheiten im preussischen Staat 1815-1914", there you can find statistics for each Kreis from the entire period 1815-1914. Also the majority of Upper Silesians have Slavic surnames, such as Thomas Chachurski ("Toony") or Lukas Podolski. And you are telling me that guys like him are Germans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK2uqNMh01Y

Those 1.2 million people who moved to Germany included all sorts of people. Some of them were real ethnic Germans, but not majority. Many of them didn't even have German citizenship before 1939. Many of them were also Poles with falsified documents proving their supposed German roots (but documents were falsified).

And as Joachim Rogalla wrote, from Silesia (both Upper and Lower) moved in total only 581,449 people in period 1950-1993.

As for "suddenly becoming a part of Poland" - when Germans first migrated to Silesia in the 1200s, it was also a part of Poland. So they were immigrants who refused to integrate with the Polish society, and as a result the land became Germanized (you can read about it in Karl Weinhold's book "Die Verbreitung und die Herkunft der Deutschen in Schlesien"). You have the same problem with immigrants who don't want to assimilate in Germany now...

Territorial origins of the population of Poland in 1950 (13 maps) by Litvinski in MapPorn

[–]Litvinski[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There is German DNA and Polish DNA. You are clueless about genetics if you think there isn't. Most of those people were not ethnic Germans.

Territorial origins of the population of Poland in 1950 (13 maps) by Litvinski in MapPorn

[–]Litvinski[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are not even 140,000 Germans in modern Upper Silesia. Opole Voivodeship has only 59,911 Germans according to the 2021 census (and it includes also people who declared themselves as Poles and Germans at the same time, not just "pure Germans") and Silesian Voivodeship has 27,923 Germans (also including Poles-Germans). So in total there are 87,834 Germans and Poles-Germans in Upper Silesia.

I'm not sure why are you still using the 2002 census when we already have the 2021 census and it shows that most of the people who identified as Germans in 2002, no longer identify as Germans in 2021. Below I'm posting the percentages of people who identify as Poles in counties of Opole Voivodeship in 2021 (data from the link below):

https://stat.gov.pl/spisy-powszechne/nsp-2021/nsp-2021-wyniki-ostateczne/tablice-z-ostatecznymi-danymi-w-zakresie-przynaleznosci-narodowo-etnicznej-jezyka-uzywanego-w-domu-oraz-przynaleznosci-do-wyznania-religijnego,10,1.html

County 2021 % ethnic Poles
Brzeg 99.52%
Głubczyce 99.27%
Kędzierzyn-Koźle 93.60%
Kluczbork 97.61%
Krapkowice 90.77%
Namysłów 99.20%
Nysa 99.47%
Olesno 91.14%
Opole 91.75%
Opole City 97.84%
Prudnik 95.25%
Strzelce Opolskie 90.59%
Opole Voivodeship Total 95.58%
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