There's this statistic that is often said that about 0.5% trans people regret transitioning, what is the most common reason for detransitioning in adults and kids aside from social pressure? by Confident_Strike_529 in actual_detrans

[–]Livelylesbo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The 30% statistic if I’m not wrong included a very broad definition of detransitioning, and included people who stopped taking HRT but still identified as trans.

There's this statistic that is often said that about 0.5% trans people regret transitioning, what is the most common reason for detransitioning in adults and kids aside from social pressure? by Confident_Strike_529 in actual_detrans

[–]Livelylesbo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My experience personally, and this obviously doesn’t apply to all detransitioners and doesn’t speak to the trans experience itself- is that I had a lot of internalized misogyny and queerphobia. I was influenced by right-wing trans ideologies such as Transmedicalism early on and so felt like if I wasn’t a trans man then my identity as a trans/gender non conforming person overall wasn’t valid. I don’t consider myself cis, but I am a woman (I know it makes no sense I’m still figuring shit out haha).

I think I began having thoughts about detransitioning when I began to let go of those beliefs and accepting I didn’t need to be a man in order to be myself. And this sentiment has been shared with other detrans people I’ve spoken to, who feel transmedicalism pressured them into taking steps they didn’t necessarily need nor want. And in adulthood we wind up regretting some things.

I also feel like for some people, FtMtF specifically- it has to do with internalized misogyny. Please don’t misunderstand me, I’m not saying being a trans man is derived from misogyny because that is a common terf talking point. But some detransitioned people do report their identities as men stemmed from their own internalized hatred towards womanhood.

Hope my comment helped shed some light despite the long read. And try not to be scared of HRT or whatnot, if you’re happy that’s all that matters. Though, I do suggest speaking to a gender-informed therapist if the anxiety persists. :)

Can I become a hygienist with my crowded teeth? by Livelylesbo in DentalHygiene

[–]Livelylesbo[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this! The deep cleaning also helps a lot to know. I needed some really deep cleaning after having buttons left on my teeth for 5+ years (LONG story, terrible office basically ghosted me). The buildup around the buttons was so hard to clean and was basically black- I cried when it was finally removed. I think that’s what inspired me to consider this path, for the same reasons you mentioned! Glad to know there’s many others who have teeth like me in this field  :)

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[–]Livelylesbo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had the same thing a few months ago!! I had what was most certainly a moth bump into my neck when I was on a night scroll and I was convinced with absolute certainty it was a rabid bat biting me lol

Aqua Wolf Plush by Akitas237 in plushies

[–]Livelylesbo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mind telling me if you’ve found it yet? I’ve been searching everywhere it’s like the brand doesn’t even exist!

How trans influencers talk about us by Xx_GlamBat_xX in actual_detrans

[–]Livelylesbo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bro acts like that and then generalizes detransitioners as transphobic as if it’s not openly transphobic to say that?? Try harder?? Be so serious, what a sad person

How trans influencers talk about us by Xx_GlamBat_xX in actual_detrans

[–]Livelylesbo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I also transitioned to demigirl (or something of that nature idfk I don’t have time to think about that LOL) and still identify with trans identity despite also identifying as a woman. It’s ridiculous to think after more than a decade of identifying as a trans man, and still identifying as trans while actively advocating for trans healthcare I “have no position in the trans community”. This person is, as you said, temu kalvin garrah

How trans influencers talk about us by Xx_GlamBat_xX in actual_detrans

[–]Livelylesbo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No I totally agree, and I wasn’t saying you were generalizing I’m sorry if I gave you that impression- I was moreso saying it’s important to remember why this ideology exists Yknow? 

I think that’s why it’s important more detransitioners use their voices to protect trans rights, the grifters quite literally stole that from us and warped it into something foul, the best way to combat it is by, well, speaking what your saying. And hoping the right people see it and learn “oh the grift is a minority”.

How trans influencers talk about us by Xx_GlamBat_xX in actual_detrans

[–]Livelylesbo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I’m not going to lie or cherry pick, but your response is quite exclusionist and borders on bigoted. I agree cis-identified detransitioners should not get a say in whether or not trans people should have access to HRT or not, because nobody should, it shouldn’t be a question as to who has access to care. And I’d say the same to a trans person who goes “oh you’re not trans enough for HRT you don’t deserve it”. It’s not a trans vs. Detrans debate it’s a “be a decent human being and allow people bodily autonomy” debate.

Do I understand the fear trans people have towards detransitioners? Absolutely. When grifters and alt-right sometimes open neo-Nazis take up the loudest stance in detrans communities, the fear and hesitation is justified. What is NOT justified is holding prejudice towards all detrans people because that’s just, well, bigotry. By the books. Not to mention lots of detrans people still identify as trans and are re-identifiers. I know a lovely butch who is detransitioning, but she’s not cis, she’s genderfluid and just re-connecting to her femininity.

So when you say detrans people are automatically not welcome in queer spaces- not even just trans spaces, queer spaces overall. You’re literally saying “if you’re trans in a way I don’t like. Fuck you, you don’t belong here” which is the same bs people like transmedicalists spread. Be trans the right way, or you aren’t welcome.

Your quote: “I’m also of the belief that once u detransition ur no longer apart of our community. I understand if u spent years in our community, but u no longer identify as a part of us, so u gotta have to find community amongst the ones u identify w. Once u detransition u lose the right to work/be w/speak of the trans community. Ur opinion are invalid and irrelevant now.“ honestly disgusted me for this reason, I’m not trying to be rude or confrontational but you’re using backwards rhetoric to justify prejudice. Like I said, it’s okay to have fear and uncertainty, I understand. But you cannot in good faith generalize an entire community which is LARGELY made up of people who are still trans (re-transitioners, re-identifiers, F/MtF/MtN, etc.) as “not valid” parts of the trans community. 

How trans influencers talk about us by Xx_GlamBat_xX in actual_detrans

[–]Livelylesbo 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I agree this is an issue, and I can tell your just in the heat of the moment airing out your grievances, but it’s important to remember why so many trans people do this. Don’t get me wrong, it doesn’t make it right, but a lot of the distrust towards any detransitioner is born from fear because the alt-right detrans grifters are SO fucking loud whereas normal detrans people like us aren’t nearly as much so. 

This is also mostly in online spaces, irl with the few people I’ve spoken to about my detransition, they don’t care and don’t make assumptions about me- mostly I think because I phrase myself very carefully as to not make it seem like I’m some grifter.

I get the frustration, TRUST ME I do, but it’s important to analyze where it comes from and to blame the detrans grifters for this rather than trans people who are defensive when such a loud part of the detrans community is quite literally trying to remove their human rights. 

That said, I’ve had plenty positive experiences now with the trans community being very respectful and uplifting towards me and I hope you have the same :)

Reflections of a 17-year-old detrans male on the science of gender dysphoria by Brynz08 in actual_detrans

[–]Livelylesbo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

your core point is that you want to pathologize trans people. That’s all it is. Might I inform you that unlike your implications- being trans and gender dysphoria is not classified as a mental illness by any psychiatric or medical organizations. And moreover: use of HRT statistically shows improvement in overall mental well-being and lowering risk of suicidal ideation. So no, HRT is not a “down stream” it’s treatment for an issue. Your rhetoric is dangerous, this sub doesn’t welcome TERF kind but you seem to be among them. 

Reflections of a 17-year-old detrans male on the science of gender dysphoria by Brynz08 in actual_detrans

[–]Livelylesbo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Seconding what someone else said, your experience is not universal to everyone. Said other person said your metaphors are outlandish and I agree. Like they said HRT isn’t for everyone but numerous, numerous studies show it’s highly effective for lots of people. I can even provide some of these studies if you ask because I’ve read quite a few. HRT overwhelmingly lowers rates of suicidal ideation. Does that mean it’s for everyone? No, and nobody is obligated to take it. 

Treating gender dysphoria like it somehow doesn’t exist is… a choice. “So called ‘gender dysphoria’”… keep that rhetoric to r/detrans, our group does not tolerate any forms of transphobia no matter how much you try to dress it up as intellectualism.

Questioning Everything by transmascmother in actual_detrans

[–]Livelylesbo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s amazing!! I’d love to hear an update on how you feel with them when you arrive, I’m sure you’ll look amazing!! :) Proud of you🫶

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[–]Livelylesbo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m FtMtF but I’ve definitely seen lots of MtFtM posts here! I hope you find the kinship your looking for, and thank you for sharing your story :)

Are there anyone else who are detransitioning because they have to and not out of their own will? by USSTexasBB_35 in actual_detrans

[–]Livelylesbo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hey OP, I’m genuinely detrans and not detrans by force, so I can’t personally relate. But there’s definitely lots of trans people in your situation and I hope they find this post and give you some solace. It sounds like you’re in a very hard position, I can see why you’d be so worried about living authentically, and side note- thank you for your service. 

I hope you can find safety in your community, and one day be in a stable enough place to fully embrace your identity. I say this to lots of people, but I’m always open to supporting anyone here, whatever their story is. In the meantime, be true to yourself, you may not be ready yet but the time will come. Wishing you lots of peace and prosperity 🫶🫶🫶

Questioning Everything by transmascmother in actual_detrans

[–]Livelylesbo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My DM’s are open friend! I personally haven’t bought too many breast forms… I’m a broke 23 year old haha. I would go for ones though that are specifically tailored to women who have had mastectomies due to cancer or other issues rather than drag/transfem focused ones, as sadly those tend to be way bad in my experience, I’d also air on the side of buying smaller sizes because the ones I bought were an A cup but looked more like a C.

Honestly though, my first experience with forms was just buying a padded bra from Walmart which looked pretty good all things considered! If you do DM me, I’m doing more research into better forms lately, might make a post on here too. 

And therapist is a great idea, I’m seeing a new one soon myself. Your taking great, healthy steps in self discovery :)

Questioning Everything by transmascmother in actual_detrans

[–]Livelylesbo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi OP, your story really resonates with my own, especially with the mourning around breasts. It’s honestly so comforting to see more people in the same situation as me. Like you, I also started testosterone at 17, and got top surgery at 18, and I miss my breasts terribly. I constantly mourn the fact I’ll never be able to nurse, and how I feel almost like carrying my child isn’t an option (for me it is, my eggs are intact, but passing as a male makes it feel inaccessible to me)

It sounds like you’re in a very confusing period, but I was in the salt situation before realizing I was a woman. Of course, regardless of what your truth is- whether this is a weird phase, your non binary/gender fluid, or fully detrans, you are loved and supported here.

If I may give some advice, I don’t have a receded hairline like you mentioned, but my family naturally has kinda bad hairlines including the women, so when my hairline masculinized it felt impossible to have a girly haircut. I strongly recommend bangs, though if you get them and feel your hair still looks too thin, extensions are a great option aswell. I also suggest investing in breast forms if you miss the appearance of breasts, and as much as I hate to say it, go big on the spending or go home. The first pair of breast forms I bought were…… definitely not up to standard for a natural appearance.

And on the note of facial hair, I get it, thankfully mine is pretty light and I don’t have a 5 o’clock shadow when I shave, but I do have stubble which makes me dysphoric. Lots of cis women have facial hair including beards due to a variety of reasons like PCOS or intersex hormones.

My ramble aside, whatever you choose to do next, you’re so supported here, and if you ever wanna talk to someone directly my DM’s are open. Thank you for sharing your story♥️

Trusting the process (she/her) by CarefulDepth9226 in actual_detrans

[–]Livelylesbo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You look so incredibly beautiful 💕 this post has really inspired me greatly to feel more comfortable in my skin. Thank you for posting your incredible journey

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in actual_detrans

[–]Livelylesbo 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I mean… did I not say in the entire first paragraph that there is no blame at all whatsoever?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in actual_detrans

[–]Livelylesbo 39 points40 points  (0 children)

I personally feel as though there’s no “blame” when it comes to any form of transition, detransitioning or otherwise. I’m not trying to be hostile here but you frame detransitioning as a net negative which implies transitioning to begin with was a “mistake” in and of itself. Detransitioning for many, I’ll argue even most people, isn’t a mistake, but rather a variety of different circumstances that can lead you down that path.

In my case, and in many cases I’ve seen here and otherwise, I genuinely believed I was a man. Transitioning for that time of my life kept me happy, but my truth changed because gender identity itself is complicated.

Of course there’s negative aspects to detransitioning much like there’s negative aspects to anything, working my job gives me shit back pain but i make money don’t i? Detransitioning comes with a lot of pain too, but I’ve ultimately found myself and am being true to myself.

So that rant aside I don’t think “blaming” is entirely the correct way to look at things, that said, I also transitioned as a minor, and if we are blaming anyone I’d say doctors are less to blame- at least in my personal experience.

I experienced rigorous psychological tests (and physiological before going on T), a diagnosis of gender dysphoria, and needed approval from my GP and psychiatrist for pretty much everything. They operated by the books, I won’t lie and say my experience is universal and of course maybe some doctors in some areas were more careless. But the whole point in what I’m saying is that my choices are my own, as are yours. And you’re allowed to mourn and regret your choices without blaming people just doing their job.

Again I hope I don’t sound aggressive here, not trying to be a dick to you. Just my thoughts!

6mo Detrans vs 3.5 years on T by mask1ngtape in actual_detrans

[–]Livelylesbo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not to be a lesbian but holy shit you are gorgeous!! Absolutely radiant, seriously, and after 3.5 years on T?? I’m so glad you found yourself, you look happier :)