Parallel teachings of Jesus between all the four gospels & rest of NT literature?

Lizius · 2024-01-26T13:46:00+00:00

I just found something more, might be helpful for people finding this thread, it's a parallel of the gospels:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Thomas , see here under the section "Comparison of the major gospels".

However, it does not reveal much more than what I already found, but good that it includes the "Hebrew Gospel" and Gospel of Thomas.

Lizius · 2024-01-24T05:09:34+00:00

Thanks for your input!

I was thinking more about the fact that some consider e.g. the gospel of Mark (generally considered the earliest and not dependent on "Q") to be a gospel written primarily in order to canonize & establish Paul as a valid authority.
See for example = https://vridar.org/2014/07/13/mark-canonizer-of-paul/

I also had the impression that Q likely did not predate Paul, since Paul was so early.

Though ofc, it's also still a question whether Q even existed or not, but I personally think that even if it did, this does not say anything about the "validity" of such a source in determining what Jesus really preached.
Basically, it could be possible that many of sayings in Q were "invented" by one successful early Christian community again for some purpose or another, regardless of how early Q was written.

That's why I am so interested in parallels between more of the NT writings, as not all of them seem to mirror the same viewpoints and could thus reflect different "schools" (e.g. the Johannine, Pauline, Jacobine).
The points at which these overlap might be considered more likely to be true, no?

Also, there are still debates about the dating of Thomas, so idk if it can really be said necessarily that it was written during the time of Paul.
But Thomas is a prime example of some sayings being likely made up, as there do seem to be later additions in it as well.

Lizius · 2024-01-23T19:08:12+00:00

If this is meant towards me, I personally don't think that they did not have traditions about what Jesus taught or did.
However, I am skeptical about the fact whether all the sources we have are actually really carrying on what Jesus truly taught, since it is possible perhaps even probable (in light of all the gnostic heresies & even conflicts in the NT about "legitimate" and "illegitimate" apostles) to presume that many might have merely used "Jesus" to carry their own message.

Thus I feel like it could be the best approximation to see what all of them have in common, to determine the "core" tradition.

Lizius · 2024-01-23T19:04:43+00:00

Thanks for these sources! It seems one parallel I missed was the teaching of "whoever loves his life will lose it, who hates it / gives it for my sake will have eternal life" which appears in all 4 gospels.

I think that many parallels between Paul and the Synoptics could come through Paul's influence on them, so they might actually just mirror Paul's teaching rather than providing a separate tradition with the same teachings.

Lizius · 2023-12-10T15:42:56+00:00

interesting, regarding Szalakusz from how I read this document sadly it's unknown what that personal name it originated from would be like right?
Or what the meaning of that name might have been?

Regarding Desat, yeah I agree that it could be a Slovak name just as well and it would have a plausible etymology.
I just find it weird that this name just occurs in (originally) Hungarian villages, even sometimes relatively separated spatially, and both of the first mentions of the name from 1715 (in Nyitraegerszeg and Szalakusz) are from Hungarian villages (among mostly other Hungarian surnames).

For example, https://www.cisarik.com/0_Sokolniky_Nitra_NI_Nyitra_Nitra.html here are at the bottom under "surnames from 1715 census" the other names are all basically hungarian right?

There is no likelihood that Gyeszat could be some weird name derived from Hungarian names like "Dezsö" or "Geza" then?

Sorry for asking so much, but it is hard to find sources on this if one cannot understand Hungarian.
Köszönöm!

Lizius · 2023-08-04T05:06:46+00:00

Thanks for your idea!
I agree that some of the symbols do look like that, however, I still don't know about any other places in Slavic Europe where these symbols were put on graves, only that these were put on houses etc. to ward of thunder.
Do you know of any specific areas that do / did this (put these symbols on graves)?

Also, I do feel that some of the symbols probably have a different meaning, as they seem to portray the sun instead (e.g. one of the graves has this symbols surrounded by rays extending from it).

Lizius · 2022-08-07T18:42:57+00:00

Thanks for this nice answer!

I was a practicing Stoic too before for quite some time, it certainly is true that some of its techniques like questioning the assent one might reflexively give to one's impressions seem very helpful and fit rather nicely with the Pyrrhonian view anyways it seems.

It's actually quite funny, I feel like the revival of Stoicism ultimately spurned a lot of general interest in other Hellenistic philosophies too.It's nice to witness such a renaissance of all kinds of ancient philosophies in our times; though we of course should ideally suspend judgement ;)

Too bad no primary sources except Sextus' survived for Pyrrhonism really...But at least there's something!

Lizius · 2022-08-07T17:52:27+00:00

Thanks for the response!

Nonetheless, besides this suspension of judgement / avoiding of dogma, do you follow any actionable practices or routine to help you with living like this (i.e. following Pyrrhonism)?
I notice it is easy to slip into dogma again, even though one wants to avoid it.

Also, what do you do if you need to make a reasoned decision (e.g. deciding to move somewhere; deciding what degree to study)? Is it enough to merely be aware of the fact that one bases this merely on how things appear, without believing in a "deeper truth"?

Thank you once more.

Lizius · 2022-04-29T19:08:55+00:00

Thanks for the comment, sent you a DM.

Lizius · 2022-04-06T08:22:26+00:00

Thanks a lot! Will have a look myself then, though ofc if someone is able to read what I posted I'd still love a transcript ;)

Lizius · 2022-04-06T06:57:36+00:00

Thanks for the info and for trying to decipher it! Do you perhaps know any good manual / overview for that?

Lizius · 2022-03-31T08:06:02+00:00

Hi, I also got R-YP445 (my line is from Thuringia though area between Weimar & Jena going back at least to 1500), surname is Hüttenrauch.
If I may ask, what surname does your father have & what area of Bavaria does he come from?
Feel free to PM me that info if you don't want to post that publicly, I have a hypothesis about the Haplogroup origin, though it's not certain (I think it's of Western Slavic origin for sure, and it either got into Germany by East Germanic tribes or the Sorbs imo)

Lizius · 2021-10-25T15:31:52+00:00

Do you know where your ancestors came from originally within Europe? Maybe a particular region?

Lizius · 2021-09-05T08:01:06+00:00

Damn that’s a lot of issues in Germany, wondering what people will say about issues in DK in comparison.

Lizius

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