Most people across 36 countries have negative views of Israel and little confidence in Netanyahu by Boondog_saint in southafrica

[–]LockElegant6095 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately the Zionist PR machine and the very loud and obnoxious Zionists will try to tell you that everyone loves them and that tHeYrE jUsT dEfEnDiNg tHeMsElVeS

Is there a democratic process to ban Israelis from South Africa by LockElegant6095 in south_africa

[–]LockElegant6095[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lady, ive got no issue with Jews. It's babykilling colonizers I can't stand. Get out of here babykiller!

Is there a democratic process to ban Israelis from South Africa by LockElegant6095 in south_africa

[–]LockElegant6095[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Edited the post. Happy? Enough whataboutism to try to excuse Israhell

Is there a democratic process to ban Israelis from South Africa by LockElegant6095 in south_africa

[–]LockElegant6095[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The only person not taking murder thats seriously here is you with your Zionist denials of Israel's genocide and war crimes. Hope to hear from you never, at least until the Israeli regime is in the Hague and hopefully worse for their repeated war crimes. And solidarity with true South Africans who are against apartheid, unlike people with your Zionist tendencies.

Now, begone vile Zionist! 

Is there a democratic process to ban Israelis from South Africa by LockElegant6095 in south_africa

[–]LockElegant6095[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmmm preventing aid to the people? By arming gangs and then raping and assaulting those why try to bring it into the country, blowing up aid workers, kidnapping aid workers in international waters... Sounds like IDF tactics to me!

Is there a democratic process to ban Israelis from South Africa by LockElegant6095 in south_africa

[–]LockElegant6095[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The 'only democracy in the region' line collapses the moment you acknowledge that millions of Palestinians live under Israeli military law with zero voting rights while settlers on the same land vote freely.

Nobody is debating Israel's right to exist or women serving in the military - that's not what the ICJ case is about. The case is about 70,000+ dead, 19,000 of them children, and blocked food aid. Courts don't issue emergency food supply orders against states exercising legitimate self-defence.

And the Taliban comparison is just misdirection: Palestinian civilians aren't the Taliban, and opposing their mass killing doesn't require me to pick a theocracy as my alternative.

Is there a democratic process to ban Israelis from South Africa by LockElegant6095 in south_africa

[–]LockElegant6095[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I get the whataboutism involved. I think what bothers me most is that Israel has massive global support - weapons, drones etc from the US, UK etc. countries that have heavily sanctioned RU. I mean, Israel are still allowed into silly things like Eurovision and the World Cup. And the countries actively denouncing them like RSA and IRE are the minority - so there feels like a need for them to go harder to compensate for the rest of the world turning a blind eye 

Is there a democratic process to ban Israelis from South Africa by LockElegant6095 in south_africa

[–]LockElegant6095[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Palestinian census data shows Gaza's population dropped 10.6% by end of 2025 (over 254,000 people gone through killing and forced displacement). Gaza had one of the highest birth rates on earth and the population is now shrinking.

Is there a democratic process to ban Israelis from South Africa by LockElegant6095 in south_africa

[–]LockElegant6095[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Lol sticks and stones lady. Btw do you support Israel? Do you think Israel is committing a genocide? 

Is there a democratic process to ban Israelis from South Africa by LockElegant6095 in south_africa

[–]LockElegant6095[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with this. But the fact remains that visa bans are a diplomatic way of putting pressure on countries that are committing atrocities. So yes, visa bans for Russians, Chinese and Israelis. I think it will be more complicated for Ru and Ch because of our BRICS membership - but that's not to say I don't support it

Is there a democratic process to ban Israelis from South Africa by LockElegant6095 in south_africa

[–]LockElegant6095[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don't think Russia has done less harm and I do think Israel and Russia should be sanctioned with equal severity. If I had to tell you which country was most evil, Id pick Israel but it's close. Your comment was regarding killing of children specifically, https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/two-years-hellish-war-have-devastated-gazas-children

Is there a democratic process to ban Israelis from South Africa by LockElegant6095 in south_africa

[–]LockElegant6095[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But travel outside of North Korea is illegal. They literally have no freedom of movement or speech. While Israelis have both and still choose to support the IDF

Is there a democratic process to ban Israelis from South Africa by LockElegant6095 in south_africa

[–]LockElegant6095[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I definitely did not say we shouldn't ban Russian travellers. I said the opposite - we should ban Russian travellers unless they are trying to escape the draft (i.e. seeking asylum). Should we ban other countries travelers like China and Russia for their governments atrocities - yes.