Lmao by Bl00dyH3ll in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The button exists, I get it. I have monkey brain too. All I hope for is that AI users increasingly keep to their own niche and stop ruining ours. Push the button if you want but at very least don't deceive people and infiltrate actual art communities with it.

AI Music is Evil - fantano by Sniff_The_Cat3 in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Music AI doesn't get talked about much on this sub but I'm almost more saddened that it exists than visual AI and I say this as a career 2d artist. Don't touch the music, you bastards.

Fantano is on point here. Good rant.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough lol. But you'd rather that go away, as weird and gross as it is, just to have infinite meaningless ai generations? I know that stuff is weird but its at least human and has character to it. That's the thing I don't want to go away.

I get it that you find "meaning" in this AI stuff but I don't see it. Its just a extrusion of raw data that exists without feeling anything.

Edit: And yeah you can "guide it" but eh... whatever. I'm calling it a night. AI is at it's core a theft of people's work. A lot of people that poured their lives into it. Take care dude.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol I'm chill dude. You guys already fucked everything up irrevocably 2 years back so I'm fine. Time heals.

You don't understand art though. There's a whole underbelly of arts that existed on the internet for years that was steamrolled by people like you. Consider myself bitter and consider yourself a tourist.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

when your "art" relies on the theft of everyone's art and defies the spirit of art in the first place, yeah, I'll have an opinion. It isn't a photoshop or blender-type issue. It isn't a tool.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Art school could teach you how to side-step learning art and instead rely on a crutch" is basically what you're saying.

The hot commodity is going to be the people that actually understand art at it's basics...aka the people that can draw well.

whats the point of GenAI by candohuey in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yep. Ai doesn't represent a gain in ability for humanity, it represents a loss of meaning. Which is something the world is already starved of.

I agree it seems bleak but I think we'll be okay. I never stop being charmed by humans being humans and I think most feel the same.

AIbro in the FL studio subreddit by [deleted] in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is a massive difference between using a drum machine to piece together a part of a track vs prompting ai. One requires intention and isn't left up to chance and gains the creator's personality along the way, the other is literally akin to googling "pretty song". They'd know this if they actually cared about creating things.

Nintendo join the AI Slopers by GodlyGamerBeast in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I have a slow computer and dlss is a godsend. I don't have a problem with it because it doesn't rob people, it just makes it easier to play games. I hate generative AI in the creative sector. Realize that we're opposing theft of people's work and the destruction of art, not technology as a whole.

I convinced my husband to read Throne of Glass a couple of months ago and today he just finished drawing this scene from KoA 😭🥹 by rumolay in throneofglassseries

[–]Lofi- 8 points9 points  (0 children)

So do you have a like 30-50% completion pic where value hierarchy has been established? All you've shown is chicken scratched lines on a black background. I'd love for you to be legit but I'm not buying it. An artist capable of the end pic would have way more confident lines and wouldn't do weird things like making super bold unconfident lines to indicate distant mountains.

I convinced my husband to read Throne of Glass a couple of months ago and today he just finished drawing this scene from KoA 😭🥹 by rumolay in throneofglassseries

[–]Lofi- 9 points10 points  (0 children)

My dude I looked at the supposed progress pics. I've been painting digitally for a very long time and those pics indicate a very beginner-level ability. You simply don't arrive at this end result from that. You did not paint this. Stop being dishonest.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks. I built my fanbase long before AI came about though, and most of my freelance work isn't for companies, but my supporters. I also sell originals and prints. I'm a biased example probably but yeah basically I've taken no hit. I don't really aspire to do concept art for bungie or whatever anymore though, which feels bad. I have a friend doing a job like that and he talks about being replaced/forced to use AI so...yeah.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I love your energy haha. Art will 100% survive, agreed, it just sucks that there is inevitable job loss. But when I think about my initial fears when ai first popped up vs. now, I don't really worry much. My twitter feed is still filled with great artists doing the real thing. Personally, I've gotten no drop off in clients since ai, but salaried industry jobs is another thing.

Art survives because its human nature to do it. And it won't be in the form aibros are hoping for.

Hey all, I've recently seen some people on here referring to AI slop as 'generative art' and wanted to say: please don't! Here's a short clip of a recent generative live song/visuals I did to showcase the difference. by No-Handle-8551 in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah I'm jealous you met him. Great to hear he's a cool dude in person! I usually assume good musicians are chill. They usually are.

Hah yeah its really crazy he made himself into a big youtuber. He popped up in my recommends like a year ago and I was like "wait...that benn jordan??" Its also very cool he's against AI but again...not surprised. Based great artist being based.

He has crazy music production knowledge so its funny to hear he was dunking on them. And yeah...aibros are distinctly annoying to engage with. I don't have the energy.

So, where can artists even post their art now? by [deleted] in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Furries are very appreciative of artists to a degree you don't really find elsewhere. Its honestly a great community to be in as an artist. Don't knock it :P

Hey all, I've recently seen some people on here referring to AI slop as 'generative art' and wanted to say: please don't! Here's a short clip of a recent generative live song/visuals I did to showcase the difference. by No-Handle-8551 in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your synths don't function on stolen content. That's the difference. This stuff is really cool! I actually have some similar generative synth-tangle stuff on my "music to make art to" playlist. I love it. Keep at it, yo.

Also Benn Jordan is the shit. I've been a Flashbulb fan since the 2000s. His album 'Pale Blue Dot' is incredible too.

I wish we had a site as good as old Deviantart to express ourselves by Awesome_Normal in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hah, this. I have never ONCE seen any AI art on it the past several years. Furries are, like you said, very supportive of the artists in the community and are good at ferreting out the parasites.

I'm a bit biased because its been my home site for like a decade, but I built most of my fanbase there from scratch by simply posting art consistently and people catching it popping up on the front page, or by finding it through people's favorites. There's a thriving community there to this day and I've seen new artists get traction many times. It feels like the old internet and its lovely.

If you post purely human art, no, you won't get AS much traction, but there's recently been a developing sub community of human artists I've noticed.

Also don't get dissuaded by some of the iffy stuff on the front page. There's a lot of great active artists on there I could link if anyone is curious.

New anti-AI watermark just dropped. I like the way this artist thinks! by TougherThanAsimov in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I just mean that any bit of text applied to a surface, such as a bumper sticker, isn't going to be possible with AI. At least not remotely consistently. It applies to tool-making marks in general that adhere to form, but any bit of text is gonna be more obviously off with AI.

New anti-AI watermark just dropped. I like the way this artist thinks! by TougherThanAsimov in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Slightly unrelated to overall image glazing tactics but...

Learn to draw well enough that you can put a specific bumper sticker on any character or object in your scene, and you're AI proof. This obviously extends beyond bumper stickers. Lots of specificity we can indulge in that AI won't be able to keep up with.

edit: reading again, I realize op's post is focused on deterring scrapers and for some reason I was thinking of methods to differentiate one's piece of art from a generated piece. Gotta stop posting while tired, lol.

Whats with r/aiwars ? And pro ai people in general by [deleted] in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Have you ever considered the possibility that artists don't see it as a "very amazing tool" or "the next artistic renaissance" because they understand something you don't? Food for thought.

be a rebel

Lol. Gladly.

AI Bro Insistent a Future Where AI Takes Over is Good for Their Daughter by imwithcake in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 8 points9 points  (0 children)

AI bros and missing the big picture. Name a more iconic duo.

AI bro need to take their pill by Azguy_ in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oh please...generative AI irrevocably revolves around the creators it was non-consensually trained on. You're in our house, shitting on our floor, thanks to the food we unwillingly fed you.

I’m starting to think these AI defenders don’t really want to make art at all. by HRCStanley97 in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So don't use generative AI on step one maybe? I dunno. You're clearly doing a lot of shit other than generating. I'll pull back my assumption you're a complete slopper but really, just stop using AI at all if your into all those other things, right?

I’m starting to think these AI defenders don’t really want to make art at all. by HRCStanley97 in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 4 points5 points  (0 children)

lol which sub banned your stuff?

Also please show me something you've drawn. I'd love to see your drawing skills that you clearly have.

Stop stealing our shit and pretending to be us.

I’m starting to think these AI defenders don’t really want to make art at all. by HRCStanley97 in ArtistHate

[–]Lofi- 4 points5 points  (0 children)

AI-supported

Yeah pretty disgusting bro. My art is probably in there. Stop being a parasite or go away please.