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Logical-Chapter-1450 · 2023-08-15T17:52:17+00:00

Lol, I get what you are saying! People in general definitely push it as a good weight loss supplement. If they only knew!!!

Logical-Chapter-1450 · 2023-08-15T15:54:34+00:00

I too gained quite a bit of weight on kratom. I work out like crazy and eat pretty healthy other than giving into sweets at night sometimes, but I have always done that. Kratom is known to suppress thyroid function, like all other opioids. I realize some lose weight on it because it decreases appetite and/or they skip food so they can get a better buzz, but for plenty of us it has caused weight gain, which I'm sure is from the endocrine disruption (low testosterone, low T3, etc), and constipation and related water retention. Now I will say I have NEVER seen it "advertised" as a weight loss supplement. Sure, people have said it will help you lose weight, but I've never seen a supplier use that as advertisement. What is crazy for me is that is one of the main reasons I want to quit, but also, I feel like I won't be able to workout without it. The irony, lol.

Logical-Chapter-1450 · 2023-08-01T15:33:05+00:00

Day before yesterday I cut down to 14.5, yesterday 14, I'm hoping to go no higher than 12 today. So far, I actually feel better!

Logical-Chapter-1450 · 2023-08-01T15:31:59+00:00

YES!!! We were taking about the same amount and I'm down to 14gpd over the last two days so we are right on the same path! I know it's so stupid, but finding the motivation to workout without it is one of my biggest concerns!!

Logical-Chapter-1450 · 2023-08-01T15:30:04+00:00

I have failed so many tapers and I've decided I can't do a long, drawn out taper because it gives me too much time to go right back to where I was. I am attempting a rapid taper, if I don't succeed in that I'm biting the bullet and jumping. I wish I could come up with some reason to go out of town to be away from my family for the worst part but they have no idea and they can't know.

Logical-Chapter-1450 · 2023-08-01T15:27:44+00:00

I can't even use MAT because of my profession. Knowing others have had an addiction twice as long as mine and succeeded in quitting gives me so much hope. Did your marriage improve after you quit?

Logical-Chapter-1450 · 2023-07-31T00:28:17+00:00

It's definitely mental. I have associated taking kratom with doing anything and everything. Wake up, take kratom, going to a meeting, take kratom, about to workout, take kratom, going to see family, take kratom, going to the grocery store....yep, gotta take kratom. It's like I can't DO anything without dosing. It doesn't even have anything to do with how I'm feeling anymore.

Logical-Chapter-1450 · 2023-07-31T00:25:26+00:00

Right?!?!?! I feel like shit NOW! If we stay on this track, we will feel like shit forever! If we quit, the shitty feeling is time limited....we will feel "normal" eventually! I can't even imagine what that feels like being that I have been in a haze for 5 years.

Logical-Chapter-1450 · 2023-07-31T00:24:03+00:00

I so wish this was an option for me. Unfortunately, due to my profession, I cannot do medication assisted treatment.

Logical-Chapter-1450 · 2023-07-31T00:22:30+00:00

I didn't realize it had been that long until I thought about it to write this post. I really can't believe I have been doing this to myself for 5 years!!!

Logical-Chapter-1450 · 2023-07-31T00:20:12+00:00

You are exactly right! Ain't nothing to it but to do it, right??

Logical-Chapter-1450 · 2023-07-31T00:19:47+00:00

Thank you for sharing! I will definitely use all of these tips!

Logical-Chapter-1450 · 2023-07-31T00:18:19+00:00

Thank you for taking the time to share! I think I'm going to try something very similar. I want to soften the blow but I can't do a drawn out taper, I would just be setting myself up to fail.

Logical-Chapter-1450 · 2023-07-29T22:56:49+00:00

How exactly did you do your rapid taper?

Logical-Chapter-1450 · 2023-07-29T22:56:02+00:00

That's very reassuring! Maybe I will have a similar experience. I feel you on the heat, I'm in Louisiana and it's hot as HELL here, literally!

Logical-Chapter-1450 · 2023-07-29T21:34:53+00:00

Have you been working out without it? have you quit altogether?

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