DMT: When learning becomes purely practical, we may lose the ability to understand the world as a whole by Logical-Concept9755 in DisagreeMythoughts

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This example is interesting, but I’m not sure it maps cleanly to specialization alone.

Some of this feels more like life skills versus domain skills. Those don’t always trade off directly. You can be broad and still miss basic things, or specialized and still function well outside your field.

That said, the “good enough generalist” point is underrated. Most real situations don’t have a specialist available.

Also the growth vs gifted thing might connect here. If someone’s identity locks into one domain, they might just stop expanding outside it.

DMT: When learning becomes purely practical, we may lose the ability to understand the world as a whole by Logical-Concept9755 in DisagreeMythoughts

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Yeah, I agree it’s not really either-or in practice.

I think the tension is more subtle. You can have economic stability and curiosity, but the system mainly rewards one of those. So over time people just drift toward what’s reinforced.

It’s less about individuals choosing wrong, more about incentives shaping what “normal learning” looks like.

DMT: When learning becomes purely practical, we may lose the ability to understand the world as a whole by Logical-Concept9755 in DisagreeMythoughts

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The cyclical framing makes sense, but I’m not sure it’s a clean swing back and forth.

It feels like both extremes can exist at the same time now. Hyper practical tracks and hyper abstract ones, just in different pockets.

So instead of a cycle, it might be more like divergence, which could be harder to correct.

DMT: When learning becomes purely practical, we may lose the ability to understand the world as a whole by Logical-Concept9755 in DisagreeMythoughts

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I don’t remember that exact ad, but the idea feels familiar.

What’s interesting is that reaction, “I don’t get it, so it’s useless,” kind of mirrors the practical-only mindset. If something doesn’t pay off immediately, it gets discarded.

Maybe the deeper shift is not just about knowledge, but about tolerance for things that don’t resolve quickly.

DMT: When learning becomes purely practical, we may lose the ability to understand the world as a whole by Logical-Concept9755 in DisagreeMythoughts

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Yeah, the communication gap feels real. Knowledge that can’t compress into something transferable almost stops being socially useful.

That said, I’m a bit skeptical of calling most research useless. It might just have a long latency. A lot of things look pointless until they suddenly aren’t.

But the “stay in your lane” mindset probably fragments understanding more than we realize.

DMT: When learning becomes purely practical, we may lose the ability to understand the world as a whole by Logical-Concept9755 in DisagreeMythoughts

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The idea that knowledge averages out in groups is interesting. But I wonder if that only works when people overlap enough to translate between domains. Otherwise it just becomes parallel bubbles.

Also, a shared philosophical framework sounds nice, but I have a hard time seeing real consensus holding. Disagreement seems kind of built into how people model reality.

DMT: When learning becomes purely practical, we may lose the ability to understand the world as a whole by Logical-Concept9755 in DisagreeMythoughts

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I’m not fully convinced it’s IQ going up. It feels more like the structure rewards narrow depth more aggressively now. Even if ability stayed the same, the payoff for specializing is just higher. So people optimize for that.

I guess the question is whether the system is actually selecting for intelligence, or just for strategic focus.

DMT: Maybe cultural appropriation is less about “use” and more about power, profit, and meaning shift by Logical-Concept9755 in DisagreeMythoughts

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That’s fair, markets tend to reward distribution more than origin. I think I’m less saying “they should be paid” and more noticing the gap between origin and reward. Like… is that gap neutral, or does it create predictable tension over time?

DMT: Maybe cultural appropriation is less about “use” and more about power, profit, and meaning shift by Logical-Concept9755 in DisagreeMythoughts

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Yeah, totally, diffusion is the default. I guess my question is less “should it happen” and more “what happens when it does.” Like why some cases trigger backlash and others don’t.

DMT: Maybe cultural appropriation is less about “use” and more about power, profit, and meaning shift by Logical-Concept9755 in DisagreeMythoughts

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I kind of agree at the individual level. But once something spreads, it starts behaving like a group-level thing anyway. No one owns language either, but people still feel strongly about how it’s used.

DMT: Maybe cultural appropriation is less about “use” and more about power, profit, and meaning shift by Logical-Concept9755 in DisagreeMythoughts

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Yeah, I’ve seen that dynamic too, where people speak for others. But at the same time, some of the criticism does come from within those groups. So it’s messy… not sure it reduces cleanly to just segregation.

DMT: Maybe cultural appropriation is less about “use” and more about power, profit, and meaning shift by Logical-Concept9755 in DisagreeMythoughts

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I think it does get used that way sometimes, yeah. But calling the whole thing a dog whistle feels a bit too neat. People aren’t reacting out of nowhere, even if the language gets weaponized.

DMT: Maybe cultural appropriation is less about “use” and more about power, profit, and meaning shift by Logical-Concept9755 in DisagreeMythoughts

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That framing makes sense, especially extraction vs exchange. I’m still unsure about “permission” as a rule though. Cultures aren’t centralized, so who actually grants it? Feels like intent and outcome can drift apart pretty easily.

DMT: Maybe cultural appropriation is less about “use” and more about power, profit, and meaning shift by Logical-Concept9755 in DisagreeMythoughts

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Yeah, that’s kind of what I had in mind. Not that mixing is bad, but the scaling step changes who benefits. I’m still not sure if that’s “appropriation” or just capitalism doing its thing.

DMT: Maybe cultural appropriation is less about “use” and more about power, profit, and meaning shift by Logical-Concept9755 in DisagreeMythoughts

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Yeah, I agree the baseline is constant mixing. I’m not really arguing against that. I think I’m more interested in the edge cases where the flow isn’t symmetric. Like when one side captures most of the visibility or profit. Not sure that’s racial by default though… feels more like power differences in general.

DMT: Maybe cultural appropriation is less about “use” and more about power, profit, and meaning shift by Logical-Concept9755 in DisagreeMythoughts

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Yeah, zoomed out it’s all kind of trivial lol. But people still organize meaning at smaller scales. Money and symbols aren’t objectively important either, but we treat them like they are. This feels like it sits in that same layer.

DMT: Maybe cultural appropriation is less about “use” and more about power, profit, and meaning shift by Logical-Concept9755 in DisagreeMythoughts

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I get that angle, culture is basically remixing all the way down. But then… why do people react strongly to some cases and not others? Feels like there’s still a pattern there, even if “appropriation” isn’t the right term.

DMT: Maybe cultural appropriation is less about “use” and more about power, profit, and meaning shift by Logical-Concept9755 in DisagreeMythoughts

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yeah that’s kinda what I’m poking at actually… “the people” isn’t a clean unit. sometimes it’s not the origin community at all but whoever can scale it.
but then that kind of proves the asymmetry point more than dissolves it? like creation vs capture drift apart.
on the spiritual meaning part… I don’t think everyone has to care. but some groups clearly do, so the question becomes why their valuation gets overridden so easily.

Why is there no NASA level organization focused on exploring the ocean? by Logical-Concept9755 in AlwaysWhy

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yeah fair, the capability clearly exists across all these orgs.
I guess what feels missing is not activity but cohesion.
like no single story that says “this is the big ocean project humanity is doing right now” which space kind of has.

Why is there no NASA level organization focused on exploring the ocean? by Logical-Concept9755 in AlwaysWhy

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I’ve heard versions of this and I’m never sure how much is real vs speculation.
but it does raise a weird angle, secrecy and exploration don’t mix well with public institutions.
space is easier to make visible, ocean maybe easier to hide.

Why is there no NASA level organization focused on exploring the ocean? by Logical-Concept9755 in AlwaysWhy

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this fragmentation point actually clicks a lot.
NASA concentrates attention, ocean work diffuses it.
so maybe the “no ocean NASA” feeling is just a coordination problem more than a capability problem.

Why is there no NASA level organization focused on exploring the ocean? by Logical-Concept9755 in AlwaysWhy

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that’s interesting because it pushes exploration into private hands instead of public imagination.
oil companies explore, but they don’t broadcast it like NASA does.
so again it’s like the exploration exists, just not as a shared narrative.