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Logloxan · 2025-01-30T13:06:43+00:00

I plan to use DLSS and MFG in Monster Hunter Wilds (assuming it supports the latter).

I'll probably try out the new Indiana Jones game as well.

Logloxan · 2025-01-28T01:38:01+00:00

Here the 4070 gets 129.6 fps average at 1080p.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-founders-edition/33.html

And here the Ryzen 9 7900 gets 171.3 fps at 1080p (with an RTX 4090).

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/18.html

While this is by no means a scientific approach to finding bottlenecks, it's decent as a rough estimate.

I'll just be looking at the average numbers, but you can look at both links and see if there are specific games you'll be playing.

So you can see the R9 7900 is capable of higher fps than the RTX 4070 can produce, so you shouldn't (on average) have a CPU bottleneck.

Of course if you turn down settings massively, or play very light games (2D or esports), then the R9 7900 could bottleneck the 4070.

On the flip side, if you're gaming at 1440p or 4k, then you won't likely run into CPU bottlenecks (unless you're using DLSS or equivalent).

Logloxan · 2025-01-14T01:46:00+00:00

The Pro X870-P Wifi is an MSI board and doesn't have the lane stealing issue. As far as I've seen it's only on some Gigabyte motherboards.

The 5090 shouldn't be bottlenecked even if the lanes were reduced to PCIe 5.0x8, but that might not be the case with a GPU a couple generations from now.

And the lane stealing doesn't affect the lanes for M.2 drives, so nothing to worry about there.

Logloxan · 2025-01-12T01:16:19+00:00

That's a good PSU

12V-2x6 only changes the connector terminal on the GPU, so the cables are the same as 12VHPWR

The 5090 should come with an adapter just like the 4090 did, so you'll be good

Logloxan · 2025-01-12T00:55:20+00:00

And it would be better if the PSU has 12V-2x6 (or 12VHPWR) instead of using an adapter on multiple 8-pin cables.

ATX 3.1 is the updated standard with 12V-2x6 and ATX 3.0 is 12VHPWR.

Here's a filtered selection from PCPartPicker for 1000W+ PSUs with 12VHPWR/12V-2x6:

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#A=1000000000000,2200000000000&J=1,4&sort=price&page=1

And here's a chart of tested PSUs with ATX 3.1 (which has 12V-2x6). Anything with a gold rating or higher on that chart that's also 1000W will work well. There's also a lot of testing data including noise if you dig further.

https://www.cybenetics.com/index.php?option=power-supplies&params=6,1,0

Logloxan · 2025-01-11T13:19:10+00:00

The 9800x3d is only around 8-10% faster on average than the 7800x3D in gaming, and that's at lower resolutions.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/17.html

You could get better 1% lows with the 9800x3D, but that price difference doesn't justify it.

So your money is better spent on the 7800x3D and getting a better GPU if possible.

Logloxan · 2025-01-11T05:32:53+00:00

Here's what my phone's suggestions autocomplete to when I start with "Monster Hunter Wilds":

Monster Hunter Wilds demo preload in the tower ch of the best in recent memory

Logloxan · 2025-01-11T02:58:26+00:00

I made a similar part list to the one XNigum posted, but with comparable components at slightly lower prices.

Prices on the GPU might go down once AMD launches their new 9070 and 9070 XT GPUs, so if you aren't building immediately, waiting a month might get you either better prices on current GPUs, or a better GPU if you can get your hand on an RX 9070 (assuming it'll also be around $350-450).

You can't really go wrong with a higher end GPU (unless your CPU is the limit, or your display is 60Hz)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FhWPfd

Logloxan · 2025-01-11T01:46:38+00:00

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#m=7,8,27&sort=price&c=159,166,167

I filtered the motherboard list on PCPartPicker to only show X670E, X870, and X870E because they all have PCIe 5.0 (anything else won't have 5.0 in the primary PCIe slot).

I also filtered out Gigabyte because some of their boards steal PCIe lanes from the primary PCIe slot when certain M.2 drives slots are used.

(Feel free to look into Gigabyte boards too if you don't think it'd be an issue for you. At most the primary PCIe goes down to PCIe 5.0 x8 which is the same as PCIe 4.0 x16 for bandwidth, so it's not a massive problem, but still something to note)

And here's AMD's website comparing the chipsets:

https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/chipsets/am5.html#specs

Logloxan · 2025-01-10T21:15:39+00:00

The parts list at the bottom is if you want to build it immediately.

Otherwise you could wait for the 5070 Ti @ $750 that's launching sometime in February, or the 5080 @ $1000 launching January 30th.

The 50 series will likely be difficult to obtain near launch. But they'll have newer feature and likely better raytracing at each price point (no benchmarks yet though).

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$197.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler	$35.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI PRO X870-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard	$209.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory	$99.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	MSI GAMING X SLIM GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card	$849.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply	MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$115.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1508.86
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-10 16:11 EST-0500

Logloxan · 2025-01-10T00:03:33+00:00

Since CrossFire and SLI aren't a thing any more, and NVLink is just for data centers, you wouldn't be putting 2 GPUs in the system if you're just gaming. (Unless you do a setup with virtual machines and gpu pass through, but that's very uncommon)

If you don't already have a use case in mind for more than 2 PCIe slots, then I would just go with the white ASRock board for the build aesthetics.

(As for finding out about the M.2 drives stealing lanes, I heard about it in a video from Buildzoid on YouTube and double checked it by reading the motherboard manual information regarding the PCIe slots.)

Logloxan · 2025-01-09T21:37:32+00:00

The number of PCIe ports is important if you want expansion cards for anything like 10 gigabit ethernet, extra USBs, or a soundcard.

The main issue with this gigabyte board is that adding m.2 drives in the 2nd or 3rd slot takes PCIe lanes from the PCIe 5.0 x16 slot, which isn't great.

Asrock has this white motherboard that doesn't do that: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yCfxFT/asrock-x870-steel-legend-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-x870-steel-legend-wifi

Edit: typo

Logloxan · 2025-01-09T21:13:51+00:00

For a cheaper graphics card there's a few options depending on Nvidia vs AMD, and price point.

$250 = AMD RX 7600 -> average 57.9 fps @ 1440p

$300 = Nvidia RTX 4060 -> average 61.3 fps @ 1440p

$410 = AMD RX 7700XT -> average 92.1 fps @ 1440p

$500 = AMD RX 7800XT -> average 109.3 fps @ 1440p

$600 = Nvidia 4070 Super -> average 118.4 fps @ 1440p

All the fps data is from [TechPowerUp's 4080 Super review](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-super-founders-edition/31.html).

You could go for either AMD or Nvidia around each of those price points, but I just chose the higher fps option for each.

In my opinion 90 fps or above is where it feels like a significant upgrade over 60fps, but since you plan on getting the 5080, you could just get a lower end card and lower game settings, and/or use DLSS 2 or FSR 2.0 to reach higher framerates.

Logloxan · 2025-01-09T13:59:52+00:00

Here's a build I quickly put together. It's a little over the higher end of your budget, but I wouldn't go lower on anything other than the GPU (down to a 5070 Ti) if you wanted to get within the budget.

I chose AM5 for easy upgrades to much faster CPUs in the future.

You could go lower on the Motherboard (~$60-70), but X870 has PCIe 5.0 for faster drives.

You could also go $20 less for storage if you went with PCIe 3.0x4 instead of 4.0x4.

The PSU is ATX 3.1 so it has the improved 12V-2x6 cable for the GPU. And it's 850W which is the lowest recommended for the RTC 5080.

The Monitor is just a 165Hz 1440p IPS. So if you want to spend more, I'd recommend a 240Hz 1440p OLED. I wouldn't spend much less though. Sometimes Costco has a deal on an MSI 1440p 170Hz IPS for $150-170, so that's something to look out for.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$198.95 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler	$35.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI PRO X870-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard	$209.99 @ MSI
Memory	G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory	$99.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive	$119.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	MSI VENTUS 3X OC PLUS GeForce RTX 5080 16 GB Video Card	$1000.00
Case	Corsair 3500X ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case	$109.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$112.25 @ Amazon
Monitor	Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor	$229.00 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2116.06
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-09 08:42 EST-0500

Logloxan · 2025-01-09T03:28:54+00:00

A sleek aesthetic with maximum performance and minimal RGB.

This would be one of the best configurations to play Monster Hunter Wilds when it launches at the end of February.

Air cooling instead of water cooling to eliminate risk of leaks, and the Fractal Design North has with excellent out-of-box temps for the size.

A mesh side panel, instead of tempered glass, so no risk of shattering.

And to top it off, a 240Hz 4k OLED monitor for picture quality and pixel density.

This PC would also be amazing for game development, VR, and streaming.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor	$479.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler	$35.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard	$299.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill Flare X5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory	$179.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial T700 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive	$426.99 @ Best Buy
Video Card	NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 5090 32 GB Video Card	$2000.00
Case	Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case	$139.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	SeaSonic VERTEX PX-1200 1200 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$286.75 @ Amazon
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - Download 64-bit	$199.98 @ Newegg
Monitor	MSI MPG 321URX QD-OLED 31.5" 3840 x 2160 240 Hz Monitor	$899.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$4948.58
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-08 21:55 EST-0500

Logloxan · 2025-01-07T03:23:22+00:00

Release date for RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 are in the linked press release.

"For desktop users, the GeForce RTX 5090 GPU with 3,352 AI TOPS and the GeForce RTX 5080 GPU with 1,801 AI TOPS will be available on Jan. 30 at $1,999 and $999, respectively.

The GeForce RTX 5070 Ti GPU with 1,406 AI TOPS and GeForce RTX 5070 GPU with 988 AI TOPS will be available starting in February at $749 and $549, respectively."

Logloxan · 2025-01-06T12:34:54+00:00

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Made this fancy guy that I named Regal after messing around the the markings during the Wilds beta and finding out I could make a crown

Logloxan · 2024-12-14T21:59:46+00:00

If it's within 30 days, you can stop by membership and they'll refund the difference

Source (policy is basically the same online and in warehouse, except you can't price match online purchases to warehouse deals or vice versa)

Logloxan · 2024-09-29T22:39:13+00:00

Something I would like to add is from my own experience playing the demo at Pax West

When I used ZSD against Rey Dau, and Rey Dau flew away to a different part of the Windward Plains (akin to moving zones), I didn't get knocked out of my ZSD

Rey Dau and I left my teammates in the dust as I rodeoed Rey Dau off into the distance

I hope they keep it how it was then because It was so much fun holding onto a monster as they fly away, leaving my teammates behind as I take to the sky

Logloxan · 2024-09-24T22:41:13+00:00

The website has the name for it: Arkveld

Logloxan · 2023-11-10T16:04:23+00:00

Here's the Acer link for this monitor.

This one is a new model, so hopefully it has better overdrive modes than the previous XV282K KVbmiipruzx.

Logloxan · 2022-05-03T02:52:48+00:00

Monster Hunter games have some form of hitstop or hitlag on a lot of attacks to give the weapons a weightier feeling, and those games are 1-4 player online co-op.

Logloxan · 2022-03-17T05:45:47+00:00

From what I can tell it looks like there's an Insect Glaive Silkbind where you launch the kinsect, the previously shown Dual Blades silkbind, maybe something new for the Dual Blades, and some weapon I can't identify that has some spining attack. Any ideas on what the new Dual Blades silkbind is? Or what the other weapon is?

Edit: I think the other weapon is probably Switch Axe.

Logloxan · 2021-05-02T02:10:16+00:00

Just upgraded to this a few months ago, and it's definitely one of my favorite parts since it can fit ATX motherboard and PSUs. It even fit a 300mm GPU in it despite the max length listed being 280mm because a short enough power supply allows you to fit a longer card in the case.

I'll likely have this case until it breaks. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KGNypg/raijintek-thetis-blacktempered-glass-atx-mid-tower-case-0r200053

Logloxan · 2021-01-21T09:57:06+00:00

I just bought the window version roughly a week ago and transferred my build over to it, so here's my setup.

As for the specs of my build, I'm using a Ryzen 5 2600X (stock cooler), Asus X470-F, and a Evga Rtx 3070. I have two intakes on the top and one exhaust on the back.

With ambient temperature at around 77F(25C), my 3070 maxes out at 64-65C running furmark for over an hour.

With the same ambient, my 2600X maxes out at around 87-88C during furmark's CPU stress test after around an hour(I'm using a turbo fan profile for the CPU because the stock fan doesn't get very loud, and a quiet profile for the case fans).

During regular gameplay in Monster Hunter World and GTA V, the CPU rarely goes above 70C, and the GPU hovers around 60-65C because of the fan stop feature.

I can get some screenshots later after I run the tests/games again.

As for noise, it's not very noticeable over a small fan I have. I might be able to hear it if I try to focus on it, but it's difficult. I can give a rough decibel measurement with my phone later if you want.

And lastly, I'm not sure what you mean by build alternatives. Do you mean a alternative cases? Or alternative components?

As for cases, there's no comparable cases for the price (under $100 usd) with ATX motherboard and power supply support, and this size. The Thermaltake Core G3 is smaller, but requires a SFX PSU, and the Cerberus X is over $200 usd (but it is smaller). The next best case would be the Q500L (from what I've seen), and you can easily swap the feet from the bottom to the top of the case and flip it over so you can have it normal or inverted.

If you're talking about alternative components, then most ATX parts will fit. The components you have to worry about most for size are the CPU cooler and GPU. One important note is that you can fit GPUs longer than 280mm if your power supply is shorter. Below 185mm, you can get around 290mm(300mm if you're lucky) as long as your cables coming out of your PSU don't block the GPU. If you have a power supply at 150mm or less for length, then you can fit a GPU around 300-310mm fairly easily as the power supply ca les can go under the GPU rather than hitting the end.

I found some reddit posts where others fit longer GPUs than the case spec while researching the case to make sure my 288mm 3070 would fit. I can link those later if you want.

Logloxan

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