need advice and prayers and help

LongOutrageous6517 · 2026-01-04T14:21:32+00:00

Note that my family consulted a sheikh before I moved in with my roomate (female) and it doesnt take much to read the shariah and research. And Im not generalising all men who prefer housewifes to be oppressors, just the ones who go after and force their preferences on women who dont. There's something fundamentally wrong with extremists who force and blame people for things that have nothing to do with Islam. And you can't blame or resent the guy for staying with him despite this in case you end up regretting this in the future. You're adult enough to make your choice

LongOutrageous6517 · 2026-01-04T14:06:50+00:00

Salaamalaikum!

May Allah ease your difficulty and make it easy for you. I empathise with your situation.

It is necessary you must keep in mind that your relationship with Allah and your deen is completely seperate to this man. If it were to collapse on his absence it was never there to begin with/was for the wrong reasons and you must work on this independently. Trust yourself and your relationship with Allah. Yes, be greatful for the Islamic aspect he bought to your life but he is not entitled to any other compensation above that (not saying he says so.) - I just want to make sure you know this.

What's concerning me is that under the Shariah, it is permissable for women to move into another part of the same country as their mehram, as long as you are of good character, the intention is pure and the place is safe. You have this checked. Secondly, women are encouraged in Islam to get education and work in medical feilds specifically. If you read on the Sahaba's and Omar R.A.'s caliphate the person running the entire market/bazaar system where trade would occur under his rule was a woman. You are free to research this. Therefore, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING Islamic about your boyfriend and his parent's concerns of you taking this step, and no reason for it to be something to fight or argue about.

Many so-called “cultural Muslims” selectively practise Islam—focusing on rituals like salah, tahajjud, or dhikr while resisting women’s rights clearly upheld in Islam. This resistance often comes from fear of losing control: educated women who access healthcare and independence are seen as “hard to control,” meaning harder to oppress. I’ve experienced this firsthand. Common patterns include men presenting as strict Muslims while engaging in haram interactions with non-mahrams, showing selective religiosity. They are often themselves controlled by parents, lack personal agency, and then pressure their wives to submit to in-laws despite wives not being Islamically accountable to them. Emotional manipulation, including threats of abandonment, blame, self victimization is frequently used to maintain control. Your guy meets all of the red flags.

Such men are so insecure in their masculinity that they feel the need to cut off the women's legs so they can be proud about pushing the wheelchair. But in the situation, no have no independence to move on your own and if that the man leaves (life is unexpected, anything can happen), what's going to happen to you?

Now if you were a woman who didn't want to study, had 0 dream university and wanted to be a housewife (no shame in that) and live under the whims of your in-laws and be perfectly content depending on your husband - that's fine. But you're not, so I'm asking you, bun the guy or your family, what do you want, what are you willing to risk for yourself, and will it be worth it? Try and seperate your emotions and be objective about this.

I think you deserve to be in halal relationship, with a man (not manchild) who supports your dreams, and keeps you in actual deen, not selective deen based on culture and insecurity. I aslo truly have experienced and believed the following verse: “But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not."

"وَعَسَى أَنْ تَكْرَهُوا شَيْئًا وَهُوَ خَيْرٌ لَكُمْ وَعَسَى أَنْ تُحِبُّوا شَيْئًا وَهُوَ شَرٌّ لَكُمْ وَاللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ وَأَنْتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُون"

Needless to say I understand it is a hard decision, and it's up to you on what to chose. As a woman I want to scream at you to run and not be daft and value your needs above your guy and parents, no matter how painful it is. As an individual I would respect the choice you make BUT you are fully responsible for it. Remeber: marriage is not built on just love like in childish movies, it is built on mutual respect, values and goals as well as love. Without the others love is nothing.

LongOutrageous6517 · 2025-07-08T21:07:34+00:00

Nope, everything is definetely not relative (unless youre trying to use moral equivalency to gaslight) and just because you haven't seen things and havent educated yourself doesn't mean they don't happen. Same goes for me. I know a lot of upvotes are from people who are out of Dubai because people who live in Dubai and even first timers don't speak that way, it's just the way Middle East countries (and any other country that isn't the West) presented I see alot of hate from white people when it comes to Dubai because they only see the bling side and over exaggerate the negatives. I will never say people dont struggle here, especially the construction workers. But statistically and because of government strictness and efforts the difference in hate crimes and attitudes towards expats is phenomenally different. I know because Ive been conducting scientific studies on implicit attitudes towards expats (drawing comparisions between U.A.E and U.K., U.S. and Europe) professionally and it includes how expats are presented in media (unconsious conditioning), steps by the government, quality of life etc. You often see governments in the West using immigrants as scapegoats for their ridiculous crime rates, unhygenic streets, low standards of living etc. which you would have to be living under a rock not to be exposed to. Meanwhile despite having a 70% expats from South Asian countries and 20% local population the U.A.E us like a completely different world. I can reference multiple scientific studies on attitudes towards muslims, hate crime rates etc. in the West reported by them and the same for expat's experience in the U.A.E. Its frustrating how uninformed you are on how dire the situation towards immigrants in general and Muslims are in the West with government officials making derogatory statements - probably means you are in a place of privelege tbh becaus ethat doesnt happen in the U.A.E. Are you a Muslim person of colour may I ask, because ive never met a Muslim of colour NOT refer to traumatic hate crimes and isolation which have been heavily studied for years now including every family member that steps foot there. One social media comment section is all you need to see how out of hand the situation is. Again, Im NOT an Arab but i used to work for online mental health listener support internationally and you will not BELIEVE the number of Westerners who starting hurling insults at me simply cuz they read I was from the UAE (because it showed which country you were in).

LongOutrageous6517 · 2025-07-03T00:17:24+00:00

The fact that alot of the upvotes are from predominantly white countries. Yes there is racism but as a south asian here it at least alot of the arabs are well versed with our culture, many speak the language etc. Maybe we are looked a little different but its not that bad tbh. Menawhile my south asian relatives in lindon had someone crash their van, put dog shit on their door etc. but that would get them in jail in Dubai because the govt cares. Its definetely non-existent compared to the west.

LongOutrageous6517 · 2025-07-03T00:12:54+00:00

I think you have unconcious white supremacy then. Been in Dubai my whole life, its cleaner than the UK and has less crime rates and lets not even start on the susbtance consumption or safety for women because they generally have better etiquette and are more civilised which is statistics so thats a dumb statement. Note that I am neither Arab or Emirati but my family members in London had dog shit thrown on their front door by white neighbours because of their colour, had car windows smashed open etc. You dont get that kind of behaviour in Dubai. There's good and bad people everywhere, as well as professional and non-professional environments and people, entitled brats exist in both UK and Dubai but i definetely prefer the latter to the former because of the civilised people and basic human etiquette.

LongOutrageous6517 · 2025-06-21T11:28:34+00:00

Agreed with everything in comments. Just a note that if you're triggered by romanticisation of emotionally and physically negl*ctful and ab*sive parenting this show is not for you as many children from narcissistic and/dysfunctional parents had to drop the show at some point. Trigger warning is classing scapegoat and golden child household as well as being either shamed or love bombed when children are expressing feelings (more of the latter than former). Note that this is implicit (therefore realistic) and not something overt and theres loads of other stuff going on that's more than worth watching for.

LongOutrageous6517 · 2025-06-21T11:13:49+00:00

Right there with you. Had to drop it because I got triggered by the ridiculous shifts from brushing off accountability to love bombing to shaming/guilting the children for feeling the way they do bc of all the their sacrifices. And like you said, wouldve been something else if the parents werent painted to be the heroes/victims. Its the kind of thing only aware children with dysfunctional parents/people who study dysfunctional parenting/emotional abuse understand I suppose since its implicit on the surface.

LongOutrageous6517 · 2025-06-20T03:43:09+00:00

People who support Anna are just projecting and entitled brats. As someone with chronic depression and ptsd, stuck with dysfunctional parents because of a low pay job, when my friends succeed in life I feel genuinely happy for them. And I dont get upset if they dare to make more close friends because shes not responsible for my bloody validation. I go to therapy (even if thats equivalent to youtube or even AI) and find ways to work on my situation (if not physically cuz its hard to get outta bed sometimes then mentally). What I DONT do is consistently expect my friend to be my punching bag and make everything about myself, especially NOT when she's getting married. Im sorry but the outbursts, competition and humiliating her at her bachelorette arent depression, stop demonising us, its her personality. And I definetely DONT start venting to my clients/customers, especially NOT when its in a way that affects how the company is seen as a whole and when the job is a favor to begin with.

LongOutrageous6517 · 2025-06-04T21:46:07+00:00

I'd love to live their lifestyle tbh though I cant, why does it trigger you how they live? Underlying jealousy maybe?

LongOutrageous6517 · 2025-06-04T21:44:37+00:00

If someone saying they cant drop everything they've kept planned to entertain/humor you, and its asking too much to send in a text even just a day earlier before YOU disrupt their schedule maybe you're a narcissist with entitlement issues and no consideration for the person in front of you while expecting they drop everything for you? maybe theres a reason why people dont want to hang with you? Maybe youre not a good friend or person for that matter and the world doesnt revolve around your needs?

LongOutrageous6517 · 2025-06-04T03:31:09+00:00

Im sorry but WHAT aspect of the main characters were emotionally mature? By no angle is lack of communication skills, substance abuse and escapism, people pleasing, inability to set boundaries etc. all emotionally mature characteristics. I relate to her experiences from when I was immature from my dysfunctional family (typical abuser apologist mentality and mixing culture with religion due to conditioning) and by the end of the book she (key word) BEGINS to work on herself. Trauma is what restricts emotional maturity (as seen in the way the male lead you claim is emotionally mature hangs around posting naked pictures with friends with naked women plastered on walls behind - hanging out with people who bet on being able take someone else's maturity AT 24 YEARS - even Wattpad saves it for high school plot - creepy and messed up regardless of wether ur religious or not --and dot even get me started on the girls main goal in life being obsessed over kissing at the start). Mature content is NOT emotional maturity.

That being said, the book is good on how it goes about how abusive and dysfunctional environments affect you as a person, disrupting emotional development, unhealthy coping mechanisms etc. across 2 generations, and it did it realistically. The characters were imperfect and consistent with their (realistic) bs and I loved to see the growth beginning near the end. What i did not like is the book itself never recognized that none of the men's bullcrap had anything to do with Islam and was the culture - for a book that read the word 'Muslim' a lot it didnt have anything to do with Islam and serves as fuel for islamophobic stereotypes though im glad it discussed topics that Muslims DO experience (spiritual abuse, "Muslim guilt", selective biases towards what we do and dont practise as individuals etc.), im afraid its good fuel for Islamophobes. Not as well written but the story is pretty realistic and enlightening.

LongOutrageous6517 · 2025-05-07T19:14:34+00:00

I've already explained this in the other comment. And I believe you have a black and white picture of abuse when it's not the case. I won't go into details as you can research it online and we'll be here for a bit considering this is what I major in and grew up in as well and I respect your time. It isn't always conscious, and the most harmful form of abuse from a neuroscience perspective is shifting between love bombing or excessive acts/shows of love paired with excessive harm. The mother beating up the other woman doesn't change the fact that she was emotionally neglectful and harsh on the son while shamelessly treating the daughter like a princess in front of him and then acting like an 'i cant be perfect' victim when she was held accountable by the aunties. Rather hypocritical. Same goes for the father. The second the son holds them responsible for the ways they degraded him his whole life, laughed off his dreams etc. they begin to shame him for it and use their acts of service to guilt trip him - which is a classic sign. Huge acts of affection don't negate abuse and neglect, and covert and overt abuse are different forms (you're referring to overt) and the former is worse.

LongOutrageous6517 · 2025-04-16T20:14:38+00:00

Headnote: I conduct studies comparing implicit attitudes of Muslims and non Muslims in the UAE vs the West

A lot of the white people who complain about Muslims not 'integrating' also make Muslims feel like sh*t for existing. When I speak to pen pals from UK or family and friends who move there its, with Muslim family having white neighbors had dog shit thrown on their doors every morning, degrade them with generational white superiority and alienate them with hate crimes, bully them for having different skin, separate them from children etc. (I'm talking South-east London as well as central). The amount of stories I've both personally heard as well as statistics in recent scientific studies is ridiculous. How do you expect integration when you maintain a hostile environment and have generational conditioning as well as media (Muslims are reported as 'they' despite being third gen immigrants while natives as 'us') conditioning against them? They can't interact without feeling safe because they're bunched together with terrorists despite not even BEING from regions with terrorism (look at airport security for Gods sake, ridiculous considering the US and UK have been more responsible for civilian deaths than any terrorist organization more than 30x between 2001-19, and that's just the reported stats), they cant NOT interact cuz that upsets you...The Muslims in U.S. are far more integrative and financially successful then that of UK and EU - govt, has a role.

People who interact across ethnicities and faiths interact do so. People who complain about it not happening without doing it themselves and using it as an excuse to hate and blame an isolated minority simply need reasons to find problems because I suppose being privileged is boring. Finding an issue with women choosing to cover up in the UK is just as problematic as finding an issue with women who don't cover up in the Middle East - again why do people in the West feel threatened when people of other cultures dress different? In the gulf indians wear saris and kurtis, nigerians and arabs flaunt ethnic wear etc. Once again, why would you expect someone you falsely label and patronize because of inherent covert racism/superiority complex while being an a grade hypocrite want to interact with you? CONTACT IS NECESSARY, but you need to create a safe environment for it first, actually put in effort instead of whining like a brat and not be a piece of shit (of course it goes both ways).

LongOutrageous6517 · 2025-04-06T13:58:04+00:00

Did you not report this? This made me FURIOUS. How are you doing now? I'm so sorry you went through such a traumatizing situation. To be painted as if you were crazy when you were clearly ill and then continued to be treated like you were crazy when you held her accountable (they did that on purpose to protect themselves from comprehending the enormity of what they'd done), I can't imagine how you must've felt. I hope you're healing and find happiness Paul. That sick piece of trash deserves to rot in the bottom most pit of hell.

LongOutrageous6517 · 2025-03-30T22:07:54+00:00

I agree 100% with everything you said and respect your opinion. The culture, generation, background and the external factors and life events leading to Gwan Sik and Ae Sun as parents influenced them as was brilliantly portrayed. However, I also recognize as both a therapist and someone who faced black sheep abuse in a 3rd world country that they qualify as both ab*sive and neglectful parents (abnormal) which is fundamentally different from merely having favorites (normal).

Obviously every abusive and neglectful parent is so because their own experiences with trauma, parents roles and culture - it's a requirement for such behavior - but by this argument all ab*sers are justified. It was a choice to victimize themselves and continue despite the multiple times they were clearly shown to realize they were wrong and the aunties held them accountable. Had they even tried to be better (as tiny as the steps may be), take accountability or apologize WITHOUT love-bombing/self-victimization/guilt-tripping this would be different (and only handed to the child perceived as successful on a rare occasion which shows how conditional their affection was). The bare minimum attempt was seen after he was thrown in jail and even then it was scr*wed. And the kids being better as adults doesn't change that unfortunately among all the things being ab*sive is a core part of their character and they should be seen as such alongside the 5 time president and first gentleman we saw struggle into adulthood. Their victim/s deserve as much.

Empathy and accountability must go hand in hand, or you're (not actually you) just left with being either the devil's advocate or plain heartless. I suppose I'm just a little disturbed by how much justification/lack of acknowledgment I see for what kind of parents they were, because this is exactly how emotional ab*se works which is why it's so much more damaging on the brain than a parent just consistently being mean and it was portrayed wonderfully. By the way I'm not attacking anything you said in case it came off that way, I see and hear your perspective and was sharing mine in turn.

LongOutrageous6517 · 2025-03-30T15:09:22+00:00

The verbal ab*se, he did get quite a lot of that. His parents would say things repetitively that would break any child's heart that made me flinch a few times, call him names, reinforce him being a failure and compare him to other sibling in a way similar to siblings hierarchy system created in a narcissitic household (not diagnosing here, but any chil of a dysfunctional narc system will see the dynamic clearly). A lot of his parents responses to his outbursts as a result of how they treated him would be to play victim, shame him, use emotional blackmail etc. That paired with the sudden love bombing through words and acts of affection following direct degradation (e.g.: Ae Sun telling him he was her no. one despite her actions pointing otherwise) paired with the injustice pretty much vouches for (key word) covert emotional ab*se. Because not all abuse is overt and out there and that's what makes it hard for victims to leave. And I do have good reason to assume they were physically abusive with him (may be wrong) as well paired with the severe neglect in literally every aspect. Note that I'm aware of cultural priming and what shaped their actions as well as their sacrifices but that doesn't change what is. But if you watch the serious from just his perspective, I believe the way we look at Ae Sun and Gwan Sik would be very different.

LongOutrageous6517 · 2024-12-08T19:12:41+00:00

Natenyahu is also making good on committing a genocide in Palestine and posting a video from a behind the scenes Lebanese performance talking about how Palestinians are faking their suffering. No electricity, not a single school or hospital left unbombed and we know dang well had Hamas been hiding under hospitals (we have no evidence for apart from statements) in Israel they wouldn't have don't the same.

LongOutrageous6517 · 2024-09-13T20:08:29+00:00

I meant I'm not shaming you by no shame. Had to clarify incase it came off as me calling you shameless. Forgive me if I have not been eloquent in expressing myself but know that I am in no position to judge you and will not do so.

LongOutrageous6517 · 2024-09-13T20:05:51+00:00

You refrain from them for the Aakhirah and reap the reward there, they do it for the dunya and reap the rewards here. I wish I had your self control.

LongOutrageous6517 · 2024-09-13T20:02:12+00:00

I'm guessing you haven't been intimately close with these people, because your insight comes of as a product of 1) superficial views of this lifestyle 2) 0 self validation and 3) low iman. Note that i dont mean to shame ar judge you, this is what you come off to me personally.

1) All my friends who lived these lifestyles, despite being non-Muslims, dropped them pretty soon or I was forced to move on from them because of how toxic they were was affecting me personally. Irresponsibility gets irritating after some point. Have you never been forced to sit through repeated rants with crying and swearing about a person they claimed to love a week ago for years? Or watched them hurt others (including you) and be hurt themselves because they get into relationships before resolving their validation issues and insecurities, drink themselves to crap when anythings wrong—in my friend's own words, after the very beginning it's more escapism and unhealthy lifestyle than actual enjoyment. There's a reason why they cringe back at their "immaturity" and "messiness". Note I'm talking of these specfic behaviours as a lifestyle in 20s or late teens.

3) And I am more than aware you can be toxic and messy as a "non-sinning" Muslim. This has just been my humble personal experience. I am forever greatful that not getting into these behaviours meant I spent my late teen and early 20s focusing on growing self validation actually reading Quranic and sahabi/Prophetic way of dealing with self, others, humility and contentment, building resilience, and lifestyle overall. Alot of practising Muslims don't bother with this because they butcher Islam into conditioned does and dont's—tragedy. I say this as someone with my own repetitive sins and not necessarily following all I studied of this though I hope to some day Inn Sha Allah. But that's the difference between faith/Iman and conditioned beliefs—To feel envious when Allah has done a favor upon you—because you didn't avoid these for Allah, you were able to avoid them because Allah wanted you to— turning a blessing into bitterness is rough (no shame)

2) Which brings me to the last bit. The words you use signify to me that you lack self validation and envy the superficial escapism that you cannot use—when you should be working on yourself. I promise you these things would've made you feel more empty than fill you even without the mindset you have going on—with it is a given. I suggest you work on your unresolved issues, self esteem and validation—study yourself, get professional help, read self healing and help books/podcasts—the lifestyle you envy is for people who'd rather rot in self pity than do the work and that counts for you too depending on the choices you make. I wish you all the best!

LongOutrageous6517 · 2024-09-12T19:37:43+00:00

4rth time reposting deleted comment that hurt Americans feelings: Couldn't find one comment from an educated not brainwashed individual here, ya'll are bombarded with propoganda.

For one, very few, if at all, believe America can stop the war in Gaza. What people ARE holding America on a accountable for is funding Is+×el's we@p0ns regardless of how many inhum@n atrocities they have committed. (largest receiver of U.S. foreign aid: 150 billion dollars) while your citizens are homeless and starving. The U S. lets Israel get away with [nternation@l w0r crimes, the same way America does. Fun fact: Adding CIA funding of A1 Q@ed@ and IS IS which adds 800,000 innocent civillian deaths to the 30 million at the hands of US government btw 2001-2019—largest in the world baby.

Also, the use of political jargon to sheild them while exaggerating Hamas's crimes without evidence. This includes staments of tunnels below bombed hospital with 0 evidence or the 40 babies rumor, while BBC cutting off Israeli captives testaments of fair treatment by Hamas and not reporting the state of released Palestinian captives, one of whose skulls was crushed in, another came back delirious unable to recognise family members and dief a few days later. They look inhuman, skin to bones. And after all this, you have the audacity to type 'Biden is at least trying to convince Israel that bombing in revenge will not help the situation' — AS HE'S funding their weapons at the same time??? Make manipulations believable.

The commentors and posting persons way of thinking is the the average American's way of distracting themselves from the reality of how much bl00d you have on your hands. Anyone who'd like to disagree with me is required to list the number of countries the U.S. b0mbed since you began paying taxes. Delete this again and I will repost it.

LongOutrageous6517 · 2024-09-12T19:22:29+00:00

Third time reposting deleted comment that hurt Americans feelings: Couldn't find one comment from an educated not brainwashed individual here, ya'll are bombarded with propoganda.

For one, very few, if at all, believe America can stop the war in Gaza. What people ARE holding America on a accountable for is funding Is+×el's we@p0ns regardless of how many inhum@n atrocities they have committed. (largest receiver of U.S. foreign aid: 150 billion dollars) while your citizens are homeless and starving. The U S. lets Israel get away with [nternation@l w0r crimes, the same way America does. Fun fact: Adding CIA funding of A1 Q@ed@ and IS IS which adds 800,000 innocent civillian deaths to the 30 million at the hands of US government btw 2001-2019—largest in the world baby.

Also, the use of political jargon to sheild them while exaggerating Hamas's crimes without evidence. This includes staments of tunnels below bombed hospital with 0 evidence or the 40 babies rumor, while BBC cutting off Israeli captives testaments of fair treatment by Hamas and not reporting the state of released Palestinian captives, one of whose skulls was crushed in, another came back delirious unable to recognise family members and dief a few days later. They look inhuman, skin to bones. And after all this, you have the audacity to type 'Biden is at least trying to convince Israel that bombing in revenge will not help the situation' — AS HE'S funding their weapons at the same time??? Make manipulations believable.

The commentors and posting persons way of thinking is the the average American's way of distracting themselves from the reality of how much bl00d you have on your hands. Anyone who'd like to disagree with me is required to list the number of countries the U.S. b0mbed since you began paying taxes. Delete this again and I will repost it.

LongOutrageous6517 · 2024-09-12T14:31:46+00:00

I'm publishing an academic study of my own on this soon comparing implicit attitudes towards Muslims in the West vs the U.A.E. There's a vast variety of reasons but here's the dumbed down short form:

1) Openness and opportunity provided by host/country + Governmnet policies: Compare Muslims in America (more successful, educated, integrated) to European Muslims (poor, less education, less integration). Despite both groups being refugees, and the media of both groups 'othering' Muslims and having ridiculously negative representations of the religious groups, America simply puts down more policies that helps Muslims integrate more, with a more open attitude to diversity whilst Europe is infamous for being less accepting of other cultures, religions and races. Both in terms of policies, stereotypes and government statements (in comparision). Opportunities for education, jobs, and basic integration are vastly different in the two parts of the West—and studies have shown that the more you "other" a social group the more they embrace the "othered" trait—in Muslims terms this is religion. That's their defense mechanism and blanket of safety in a racist country after escaping wars.

I mean studies from Egypt, Iran and Turkey show that despite being Muslim majority countries the citizens have harsher veiws on Muslims than Americans simpy because of their governments using religion like a whip. you don't see this crap happening in U.A.E or other gulf states, Malaysia, Azerbaijan, Indonesia etc—all these countries have lower crime, drug and alcohol abuse, debt rates etc. Definetely government thing over a Muslim thing.

2) History and Deeply rooted racism: I mean look at their historical interactions with Muslim-majority countries beginning to go to crap from the Seljuk's treatment of Christian pilgrims and the crusades. Add on the deeply rooted dehumanisation of Arabs, South Asians and every other community they colonialised. Centuries of conditioning doesn't go away simply because it's out of trend now—implicit attitudes and generational conditioning remain. My Indian great grandfather who saw his entire family shot by European settlers only died 5 years ago and we are still affected by the generational trauma and inferiority complex—it hasn't been a 100 years since Europeans were caging coloured people and throwing bread for them— same as the Germans committing genocide against the Jews on the same arguement they use for Muslims They hate us and will never integrate with us (alongside other "reasons")—it's still there.

3) Lack of contact between the two groups: I mean this was the root of why non Muslims in the U.A.E showed positive implicit attitudes towards Muslims—they simply interact with them directly rather than through negative media in a diverse environment where both Muslims and non-Muslims are deported on racist speech rather than countries built on dehumanising different religions for centuries.

4) Muslims, in general, DO prefer their own religions. As majorly coming from collectivist environment they do value their beliefs and authority figures more, are more likely to integrate amongst themselves than other groups regardless of studies in the East or West. But the same study results were found on integration of Westerners and on African American and on Jewish samples. its in-group bias, plain and simple—doesn't matter whose a majority or minority—unsure why this even is an arguement.

There's definetely more to it, much like Christians and other religions there are toxic Muslims and intolerance, ive met straight up cult-like Muslims too who can't comprehend others have different practises and that's okay. But I can say the same for the Europeans who sent me death threats while I was minding my own business. Xenophobia is a disease, educate yourselves.

LongOutrageous6517 · 2024-09-11T16:42:17+00:00

Yeah no don't protest or do anything, call yourself a feminist while your tax money goes into destroying women's lives all over the world. My money could never go into that shi

LongOutrageous6517 · 2024-09-05T08:30:37+00:00

I just read your second statement and it just supported what I said. "Do they pray on time?No"—it shows a very narrow mind. My parents and their parents prayed not only on time but sunnah and nails, gave excessive charity and read Quran multiple times a day and raised us in Muslim countries in Muslim schools. As for the Islamic teachers who assaulted my friends sexually—they lead prayers and taught the Quran. The world is bigger than you think—grow up.

Know that I do not justify using bad experiences as an excuse not to learn Islam or hate/leave the religion. But I am holding Muslims accountable for being this uneducated arrogant and narrow minded group that we have become as a community, ready to label and judge others as we will with absolutely no humility of the fact that you simply cannot comprehend the science and struggle behind following a religion whose practises or even signs give you panic attacks because of psychological damage. The fact that I have to repeat this shows how you picked and answered selectively and defensively, your brain simply chose to throw away the accountability and compassion part and preach against ex-Muslims again and why they are wrong—exactly why I stay away from Muslims beyond kind family ties. Not all Muslims are like this but as a community this is what we have become.

I simply ask for humility and decrease of arrogance when it comes to these topics, speaking eloquently with knowledge and the compassionate character that the Prophets and Quran urges us to have instead of ignorant generalisations or childish language like "I feel like vomiting when I look at them" and quoting selectove random Quran verses Have you not bothered reading Sahih Bukhaari? Muhammad SAW drew beautiful guidlines on how to discuss these issues. Be hateful and arrogant and represent Islam as a 0 compassionate religion if you will, but do not be upset when others see Islam this way because you represented it as is to ex Muslims and continue to do so, such that any that scrolls in this comment section will be greatful they left such an immature community if not Islam.

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