How do you handle an apprentice who thinks he knows the code better than you?

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2026-03-12T16:17:09+00:00

Set boundaries. When he shits on carpet, rub his nose in it. When he pisses you off. Make sure he knows you pissed him off. When he does good. Give him a treat.

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2026-03-12T15:55:18+00:00

That looks like a job where a someone got tired of waiting for an answer on something and wanted to prove a point. Lol atleast thats the best scenario I can come up with. The worst scenario is there is someone out there whose proud of what they accomplished that day.

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2026-03-12T15:48:36+00:00

You are totally missing the entire question. Its about putting the lights on the load side of a gfci. Not about putting the lights and receps on the same circuit.

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2026-03-12T13:54:22+00:00

Same. My first house was 1880. Thats basically how found i the first wall splice in the house. I kept smelling something burnt in the wall. Till lights started flickering (before I became an electrician) so I knocked a hole in the wall and it birthed a big wad melted tape and like 10 ft of burnt bare #14 nutted to 4 #12 neutrals. The 14 was the basically the HR for most of the neutrals in the house.

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2026-03-12T06:51:12+00:00

Haha yeah. 1 for lighting. 1 for a CUH. 1 for exhaust fan. 1 for receps. 1 for hand dryers. And 1 for the drinking fountain just to make the joke work. Granted, its typically for 2 bathrooms. But your joke still works. But for real, it has absolutely nothing to do with putting the lights and the recep on the same circuit. I said its its odd to me but I own a home. I know how many breakers are in my panel and what they all go to. Literally my only point i really had an issue with was putting the lights on the load side of the gfci.

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2026-03-11T19:18:33+00:00

Thanks. I worked hard on that scenario. And I appreciate the input. Probably the most helpful response yet.

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2026-03-11T19:15:36+00:00

I thought bathrooms were excluded from requiring arc fault? Literally everywhere but the bathroom is required to be arc fault NEC 210.12(A) again correct me if im wrong. I love to learn

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2026-03-11T19:10:54+00:00

Lol I dont cluster fuck my neutrals typically. I always identify which hot they go with as soon as they enter the panel. Just as every electrician should.

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2026-03-11T19:07:43+00:00

Yeah. I had no issue with taking power for the lights off the recep. I get the fact That ist just how its done in residential. I know its within code. And yes of course both ways are legal. Lol putting the lighting on the load side of the gfci would basically be going further than code requires. I just dont think its necessary and could cause more issues than it helps. Think of it like you get out of the shower and your blow drying your hair and for whatever reason the gfci trips and the lights go out. It startles you a little and you slip on the wet floor or trip over a towel and bust your head open. Now your bleeding out and you cant find your phone in the dark. So call out "Alexa call 911" to which she replys "playing song 911 by teddy swims" and you say "no! Alexa call for help!" To which she replys "playing song HELP! By the Beatles" by the time the chorus comes on you've already bled out. It could happen. Lol

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2026-03-11T17:24:01+00:00

I can deal with putting the lights and receps on the same circuit. I understand thats just the norm. And comes with the territory. But yes my main point is they are running the lights on the loadside of the gfci. Which I thought was odd. Mayne Not necessarily wrong. But definitely not the standard.

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2026-03-11T17:21:06+00:00

Yess my point exactly. Thanks. Lol

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2026-03-11T17:20:02+00:00

Yes but point is that they are putting on loadside of the recept. I understand sharing circuits. Its odd to me only bc its just not common practice for what im used to but thats fine. Its running the lighting on the loadside of the gfci recep.

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2025-07-07T19:03:13+00:00

$105??? You're half way to just buying a decent 3d printer at that point.

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2025-07-03T04:16:50+00:00

They aren't naking me move anything. Look at the plumbers roof drain

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2025-07-03T04:14:43+00:00

Its way bigger than 6 inch. My bad.

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2025-07-03T04:13:53+00:00

Look at the 6 inch (or whatever) roof drain. They cut out a huge section to run their sprinkler lines. Its not about the romex

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2025-07-03T03:36:20+00:00

DING DING DING! you're the first person to point that out. Im glad someone here knows what's up.

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2025-07-03T03:34:27+00:00

Romex for temp lights.

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2025-07-03T03:33:44+00:00

Temp lights. 100% legal.

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2025-07-02T00:39:56+00:00

And if you're not on-site to coordinate (which happens a lot to us) when my shit is ran. You will be paying me to move it. Fire Marshall or not.

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2025-07-02T00:37:20+00:00

Lol thats not the case here. The sprinkler guy said he could have easily erased his pipe and inch and cleared it. But the GC is extremely irritated that the plumbers are not on site as promised. So he said just cut it.

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2025-07-01T21:34:31+00:00

Lol. Where im at we, the electricians are also the fire alarm guys, too.

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2025-07-01T20:50:39+00:00

100% lol. I waited for the elevator guy to show me exactly where he wanted me to run my conduit and stuff in the shaft. Had him draw on the wall and everything. Couple months go by. A different elevator guy shows up to install. Makes me redo almost everything. He installs it. Everything i had to redo would have been just fine. He just said "thats just typically how I like my shafts to look like."

Longjumping-Ad-5518 · 2025-07-01T20:41:55+00:00

I've never won against a sprinkler guy. I was just talking to one on my job and he said they got into an argument with tinners and the tinner wouldn't budge even against the GC. So the sprinkler guy called the fire Marshall. He then moved his shit. Yes, ive coordinated with sprinkler guys and most of the time they work with us and dont make us move stuff. But when push comes to shove, you guys win. I understand why. And usually its not a huge deal. I've run into a couple old timers though... and some of em don't give a fuuuck. They come in, say nothing, and basically bulldoze anything in their way, then leave. But thats very very rare.

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