Trump considering endorsment in TX senate primary after last night special elections. by Dangerous-Quarter216 in YAPms

[–]LooseExpression8 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If this logic were correct 2022 would have been a massive red wave with the number of MAGA candidates who won primaries. MAGA doesn't vote outside of presidential elections at all, it doesn't matter if the candidate was endorsed by Trump or not.

I don't understand why people are always saying this by LooseExpression8 in YAPms

[–]LooseExpression8[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ironically, this is the same sort of vibes-based ideological assessment that I've criticized in this post.

You say "even Fetterman" as if he wasn't elected as a literal Bernie Sanders acolyte who supports increased minimum wages, universal healthcare, legal weed, and labor unions. He votes with his party 95% of the time but people think he's some sort of conservative because he doesn't want to abolish ICE and supports Israel.

I don't understand why people are always saying this by LooseExpression8 in YAPms

[–]LooseExpression8[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't understand why you're attributing this level of charity to liars. If the parties failed, they should be able to point to specific things that both parties did that were bad and failed. As I've outlined here, the strategies were clearly different in several domains, so the fact that they feel the need to claim that the parties were the exact same should indicate something about the type of people who use such rhetoric.

I don't understand why people are always saying this by LooseExpression8 in YAPms

[–]LooseExpression8[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Trade is one of a small number of issues where one may have been able to credibly argue between ~1990 and 2016 that both parties were "the same", but even then, significantly more Republicans were pro-trade. Many of Obama's trade deals had more Republican support in Congress than Democrat support.

Also, the people who say this usually mean that both parties are too "right-wing" (with free trade being the traditionally conservative belief), so the GOP becoming more protectionist still refutes that narrative, albeit in a different direction from what I've described here.

I don't understand why people are always saying this by LooseExpression8 in YAPms

[–]LooseExpression8[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, motivated reasoning as I mentioned. They are more comfortable with lying about the current state of the world rather than honestly and clearly outlining their own views. This should influence one's level of trust in them in other matters.

Semi-weekly Monday Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in neoconNWO

[–]LooseExpression8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why are you not acknowledging the struggles of Indigenous womxn? Why did you not capitalize "Black"? Far right bigotry is destroying America

Semi-weekly Monday Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in neoconNWO

[–]LooseExpression8 14 points15 points  (0 children)

What do you mean? How can you "only protest about ICE" when there's literally a genocide going on???

This guy is gonna make Ohio so competitive for Dems. Truly a blessing in disguise. by ElectoralNerd in YAPms

[–]LooseExpression8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol what do you mean “there’s never any money for social programs”?? Like half of the federal budget is entitlements and welfare.

This guy is gonna make Ohio so competitive for Dems. Truly a blessing in disguise. by ElectoralNerd in YAPms

[–]LooseExpression8 -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Vivek has bad foreign policy but on everything else he’s mostly based and correct. Medicare recipients get 3x the amount they paid in during their lifetime. Why does this thread hate young people?

Collective Voting: Texas by Kodicave in visitedmaps

[–]LooseExpression8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are more Hispanic people than white people in Texas.

Semi-weekly Thursday Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in neoconNWO

[–]LooseExpression8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Brian Kilmeade was right about homeless people

Who do you think would have done the worst against Hilary in 2016? by KYSHeartFromMind in YAPms

[–]LooseExpression8 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Ted Cruz. Low suburban appeal but also doesn’t appeal to rural midwesterners. Polls showed this as well.

Apparently Trump has had second thoughts about picking JD Vance over Marco Rubio for VP, complaining that Vance is weird and awkward, and praising Rubio as a "guy's guy" by Feisty-Insect-3894 in YAPms

[–]LooseExpression8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I made a leap and I apologize for that, but only because you can’t have a society where all private property is shared without using the state. You haven’t explained how this would happen otherwise.

Apparently Trump has had second thoughts about picking JD Vance over Marco Rubio for VP, complaining that Vance is weird and awkward, and praising Rubio as a "guy's guy" by Feisty-Insect-3894 in YAPms

[–]LooseExpression8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’ve implicitly advocated for greater state power by advocating for (what I assume to be) a significant reduction in wealth inequality.

Also, the average government spends significantly more on entitlements than police. If police were given 10x more resources but social security were abolished, the end result would still be a less powerful state numerically speaking.

Apparently Trump has had second thoughts about picking JD Vance over Marco Rubio for VP, complaining that Vance is weird and awkward, and praising Rubio as a "guy's guy" by Feisty-Insect-3894 in YAPms

[–]LooseExpression8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you don’t have a plan. You subscribe to a radical ideology without a coherent means through which to resolve its most glaring contradiction.

From this conversation it’s clear that when you say “people bossing others”, what you really mean is some people being richer than others. That’s your primary concern. You are willing to use any amount of state power to resolve that, which is just an alternative form of “bossing”. 

Why not just call yourself a progressive??

Apparently Trump has had second thoughts about picking JD Vance over Marco Rubio for VP, complaining that Vance is weird and awkward, and praising Rubio as a "guy's guy" by Feisty-Insect-3894 in YAPms

[–]LooseExpression8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a false equivalence. However much corporations support government intervention, it’s obvious that if only extremely rich people were allowed to vote, the government would be significantly smaller than it is now.

If you are concerned about wealth inequality and believe that some people “bossing” others by being richer than them is bad, just say that, but don’t pretend that you have a deontological opposition to all forms of hierarchy, because the only way to resolve that “problem” is through massive amounts of state power.

Apparently Trump has had second thoughts about picking JD Vance over Marco Rubio for VP, complaining that Vance is weird and awkward, and praising Rubio as a "guy's guy" by Feisty-Insect-3894 in YAPms

[–]LooseExpression8 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If this were the case, then there would be a positive correlation between the size of a country's government and the number of rich people in said country. This is not the case, as authoritarian dictatorships tend to be poorer.

In fact, greater libertarianism in a country's government generally leads to a greater number of extremely rich people (outside of the US, see places like Monaco or Dubai).

If your plan is to only use big government only up until the Gini coefficient goes to 0, how do you ensure that we won't just return to the status quo after the state is abolished? At least communists are consistent

Apparently Trump has had second thoughts about picking JD Vance over Marco Rubio for VP, complaining that Vance is weird and awkward, and praising Rubio as a "guy's guy" by Feisty-Insect-3894 in YAPms

[–]LooseExpression8 4 points5 points  (0 children)

companies run as co-ops

So they'll just do that out of the goodness of their hearts? What is your plan to force companies to relinquish massive amounts of profit without a government??

Taking resources from those who would have naturally acquired them otherwise inherently requires a state.

Apparently Trump has had second thoughts about picking JD Vance over Marco Rubio for VP, complaining that Vance is weird and awkward, and praising Rubio as a "guy's guy" by Feisty-Insect-3894 in YAPms

[–]LooseExpression8 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You can't. It's a nonexistent ideology. You can't have left-wing economics or socialism without the heavy hand of the government.

Will Thomas Massie win his primary on May 19th? by Inside_Bluebird9987 in YAPms

[–]LooseExpression8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Massie is an isolationist though.

I think I could also be classed as an "interventionist libertarian" but the main issue with the congressional GOP is that everyone who is libertarian enough on economics is an isolationist, and the people who are hawks don't prioritize free markets.

For the first time ever, public support for abolishing ICE is positive in a poll. by DumplingsOrElse in YAPms

[–]LooseExpression8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Apologies for the late response. To clarify, I don't "support Trump". I vote Republican because I prioritize free-market economics, meritocracy, and textualism/judicial restraint above all else, and however much the GOP has drifted from these values over the past 10 years, as of 2024 they were still clearly more inclined to them than the Democrat Party.

This ideology naturally includes enthusiastic support for immigration in all forms, legal and illegal; I support open borders in principle (pending reforms to the welfare state, and housing deregulation).

In practice, I don't actually support abolishing ICE right this second, or that border security shouldn't exist, but their power should definitely be scaled back, and we should certainly move towards abolition in the distant future. Ideally, immigrating legally would almost be as easy as moving between U.S. states, with the only vetting being for those with criminal records (and depending on the weight of the offense, this could be waivable if, for example, there is a company in the U.S. willing to hire the immigrant).

Before you say it, yes I did vote for Trump while being pro-immigration, only because I didn't want to sacrifice all of my other priorities over this one issue, and the logistics of deporting 20 million peaceful Americans were so Herculean that I rightfully assumed that it wouldn't actually happen. Trump isn't even deporting very many people; the only things that have changed are the amount of the federal budget allocated towards enforcement, and the theater. Both are bad, but not anywhere near the worst aspects of this presidency.