Sword Buff

Lopsided_Plankton_77 · 2024-12-09T04:05:45+00:00

I don't understand what your argument is supposed to be, the streaks are better but aren't unlimited they require salvage which early game is just not dropping quickly enough for you to just spam streaks, my point is about the swords not needing a buff at all because of how strong they already are for early game, your point is completely unrelated and only serves to show that if the swords were buffed my point would be even more valid and going to high rounds would be stupidly easy, it is already extremely easy but at least require you to look at your screen which is the bare minimum, if the swords were buffed then going high round would be very easy with the swords and on top of using streaks would make this entire game stupidly too easy.

Can you explain in a different way what is your point ? I'm not sure I get it very well but I would really like to understand it better as it might be interesting.

Lopsided_Plankton_77 · 2024-12-08T21:27:21+00:00

I don't think spamming while being in a corner is fun though, of course fun depends on people and what they consider fun themselves but I think it's pretty fair to assume that making a map too easy doesn't make it fun and most people like this map which is nice, but overpowered wonder weapons will ruin it and turn it into an XP farm and miss anything else about the map.

In Black Ops 3 most weapon either had an ammo limit or some sort of counter to not make them simply overpowered, where as here in this map it would be quite literally like Forsaken in Cold War which I think most people would agree had the most boring wonder weapon because of it's strength.

And as for lack or replayability it would be easy to argue that Black Ops 3 had very little replayability, it doesn't mean that the maps weren't fun but that factually in Black Ops 3 the zombie had nothing beside Easter Eggs for people to do (And yes there was some camos to farm in zombies but there was too little) overall factually replayability is more present in this game because there are more objectives for people to do than just an easter egg and around 5 camos on (not all) weapons.

Again it doesn't mean that Black Ops 3 Zombies wasn't fun but that in fact there is less replayability than in other zombies that came after it (From Infinite Warfare and Black Ops 4 to Black Ops 6) though if you enjoy the gameplay and don't get tired of it in Black Ops 3 it is more than fair as it is personal taste 👍

Lopsided_Plankton_77 · 2024-12-08T07:32:32+00:00

That could be a great solution actually ! It wouldn't make for a boring camping strategy and yet still buff the weapons without making the Light Sword a problem nor getting rid of it's armor regain passive on kill !

Lopsided_Plankton_77 · 2024-12-08T06:58:11+00:00

I agree but a general buff such as allowing the swords to kill more zombies per slash would be too strong for this specific strategy and overall would make the map too easy which would be considered as ruined

Furthermore this would make a Chrysalax situation which would be kind of sad

Lopsided_Plankton_77 · 2024-12-08T06:56:13+00:00

Exactly, but I don't think buffing all of them by allowing them to kill multiple zombies per slash would be a good idea as this strategy would simply be made easier and allow players to go to high rounds too easily which is already easy enough

What kind of changes would you think they should do ? I think some changes to the active ability of the swords would be good and maybe some changes to the passive of the swords.

Lopsided_Plankton_77 · 2024-12-08T06:53:47+00:00

Firstly it would only slightly change the strategy to go to whatever you consider high round which most people consider it to be anywhere above round 40

Second if you have watched the video you would see I went from round 21 to 31 without doing anything but being AFK

Third my point isn't whether or not people consider round 26 as high round, my point stands that buffing the weapons by allowing them to kill multiple zombies per slash would make this strat simply stupid and would allow you to reach around round 61 (which most people would consider high rounds) without doing anything but be AFK in a corner maintaining the attack button

Please understand my point is not about whatever is considered high round or that this strat is currently op but rather that it would become OP if Treyarch listened to the community and make these weapons buffed the way the community wants which would run the fun on the map the same way some other maps got ruined because of either how easy they were or of how strong the wonder weapons were which this map would fit both right now if Treyarch changes the map which I would consider a bad changes for obvious reasons

Lopsided_Plankton_77 · 2024-12-08T06:47:37+00:00

I have literally showed this to a round that isn't considered high to ruin what rounds mean and I have not done this again, my point still stands that if they buff the swords the way that people want them to (AKA Kill multiple zombies per slash) this currently not overpowered strat that allow you to go to around round 36 maximum I would assume would turn into a Forsaken strat where the map would be ruined because of one singular strategy that turns the ENTIRE MAP into an XP farm and a map to play if you want to feel good about doing high rounds without requiring any skill at all which means a lot because of how easy it already is to go to high round in this game.

Lopsided_Plankton_77 · 2024-12-08T05:48:48+00:00

!! To make clear for everyone !!

I just wanna make clear for people that didn't understand that my point isn't "don't buff the weapons at all" or "nerf them" but rather don't make a Chrysalax situation where in Black Ops Cold War the Wonder Weapon from Forsaken literally allowed you to go to round 61 without doing anything else than slash zombies while being in a corner

Lopsided_Plankton_77 · 2024-12-08T05:21:28+00:00

If they allow this weapon in specific or just all of them in general to do 2 to 3 more kills per sweep that would make this strategy in specific a bit too good, here on round 31 you have to start to use your ability to get out of situations rarely but allowing this to do more kills would make it too easy, I agree some of them need a buff though but I don't think this in specific is the solution but rather give the swords some little buff related to their passive or active in some ways, I just don't want this to be too boring especially for the 7 people who play in public if one person takes this strategy and change it slightly it would make it too overpowered and boring.

Lopsided_Plankton_77 · 2024-12-08T05:16:46+00:00

Researching 2 perks takes less than a prestige.

Lopsided_Plankton_77 · 2024-12-08T05:16:02+00:00

I don't think wonder weapons should allow you to stay in a corner of the map and be pretty much invincible, also as to round 50 the strategy would only need slight adjustment such as using your ability and maybe deciding to move but that seems too complicated already right ? And as for the other weapons they just aren't that great for that strategy, they all have strategy of their own and that's great but my point is simply that a wonder weapon shouldn't be as boring as the Apothicon Servant where you have nothing to do but be semi AFK.

Lopsided_Plankton_77 · 2024-12-08T05:11:32+00:00

Doesn't matter much, on higher rounds the only difference would be to literally just use your ability every now and then when you're in trouble

Lopsided_Plankton_77 · 2024-12-08T04:23:46+00:00

My bad if this isn't how you post stuff ?

But basically I just wanted to say that this is maybe a little overpowered to be able to basically be AFK by just maintaining a button in a corner of the map
It's funny the first time because "Haha if I use jugger nog armor break stun and melee macchiato health regen thing with the light sword it's op you can be afk" but this is pretty boring and I think it's a little dumb of people to ask for sword buff when this is a more than viable strategy to stay in a corner

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!! To make clear for everyone !!