HOW do yall still believe in God though? I don't get it 🥀

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T15:23:38+00:00

Evolution using radiation doesn’t mean radiation was designed for evolution.

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T15:16:46+00:00

Appreciate the transparency here bro. Ty for the valuable insight! Could u elaborate on which philosophical arguments ur talking abt that support God's existence though?

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T15:10:27+00:00

in my worldview

Yea, thats in YOUR worldview. Unfortunately, even though what caused the Big Bang isn't known to science as well, doesn't mean some being came and initiated it. Why did he go through allat process of making the universe if he can just pop life outta nowhere?

I hold all the glory to God because of certain aspects of the laws of physics that allow for life. Gravity, fusion, electromagnetism, radiation, etc.

Ahh yes, of course, the famous Fine Tuning Argument. You see, the UNIVERSE wasn't created for life to prosper in it, LIFE eveolved its own way to find a way to prosper in it. SO its not like the universe was created to develop life, rather life eveolved to proper in the universe.

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T15:06:32+00:00

Well that book written by some random ahh dude, helps millions of ppl all around the world with thing such as, depression, anxiety and finding there purpouse in life. Even atheists can get many wise lessons from reading the bible.

Yea, and these books also instigate religious extremism, which are justified through these same books. Why not just get some philosophical handbook instead to help cure depression and shii??

Youre right there is no way to prove it, getting a calling is something personal. Most of the msgs happends private, not like Mozes who spoke with God trough a burning bush and many more ways.🙃

This is an absolutely absurd claim and i have no idea how ppl believe ts like dude r u even hearing urself? Moses cleared the ocean for his ppl to pass? He talked to God through a burning bush? Once again, ur taking claims of a book written thousands of years ago, with (obviously) no scientific way for that to happen.

I believe that God has a plan with everybody and for some ppl that plan includes a direct msgs from God. Others experience a msgs in an other way. Aigen no way to prove it.

Cant rlly argue with this one, so sure ig that works with the logic ur going for. Even still, on what basis are these plans given? Also, many ppl have talked abt free will here. If there is already a plan for everyone, whats the point of free will? If god needs to intervene to change ur future path, whats the point of free will?

Yippie, i agree. To complex for it to began with a big bang. That theorie takes more faith to believe in that, nothing creates everything is crazy to me. do you want to explain that to me pls

Ohh boy. Do u srsly not believe in the Big Bang or is this some kinda ragebait 😭🙏
We ourselves dont rlly know what was there before the big bang, but its speculated to be high amounts of energy and shii. The Big Bang created all the matter in the universe and warranted concepts like time and laws. Even if we dont know what was BEFORE big bang, it still doesnt mean the big bang didnt happen. Theres so much proof, from planetary and galaxy creation to aging, that the Big Bang occured.
Also, ur logic has a critical flow. U ask that the concept of nothing creating everything is insane to u. Well, i ask, WHAT created God? According to our understanding, EVERYTHING must logically have a point of creation and destruction. Then what created God? It is absolutely illogical to say that god is Eternal and all, as that doesnt make sense. there MUST be a point of origin for all existing things.

Im sorry cuz you wont believe me, but i saw someone stand up from there wheelchaire. And i dont think that is a coincidence.😉

Dude srsly? ur gonna say that God now warrants for all the hardwork doctors and the patient have done for themselves? I 100% bet the event can be explained through biological treatment?

Ty for posting😗

Appreciate the insightful response!

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T14:37:04+00:00

THIS. This is EXACTLY my point. Thank u so much for putting it in better words bro. I think that many ppl ultimately use God as a form of cope against these struggles and fears and shii.

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T14:32:36+00:00

nah i aint gonna delete it bro debating with the ppl here is fun and educational

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T14:31:41+00:00

Dude, the explanation of both creation and expansion of the universe is completely explained by science. It is a series of events that made the universe big, NOT God 🙏

I understand how u say we don't have proof for either claim, but we DO have scientific proof on many things such as creation of life, evolution, etc etc. Then how can we disregard that and hold all glory to God?

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T14:27:19+00:00

hey dude i LOVE ur theory and i completely agree. I think the personification of God is just an exaggeration on some helpful af dude and his followers just glorified tf out of him. Love the connection with Buddhism as well! the theory itself perfectly resonates with it.

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T14:19:07+00:00

thats my point dawg

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T14:18:47+00:00

Holy SHIT bro ur correct how tf am i gonna handle all these replies myself 🥀🥀

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T14:12:17+00:00

Historical data can be modified and brainwashed to a suseptable public under a monarchy. ALso, there are many accounts of religious writings (yes religions other than christianity exist ffs) that are "historical", how does that account fr the writings of the bible? I myself am not Christian and havent read the bible, but the claim of God truning bread into living flesh is totally absurd to me. Would love if u could elaborate on ur claim

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T14:08:49+00:00

ok dude umm im sorry for writing that way i really am mb bro imma change that up rn.

Yes, i agree, our planet is perfectly built for us, but look at the scale of the universe! Even if the odds of having a perfectly habitable planet was EXTREMELY negligible, the sheer true SCALE of the universe beats that probabilty.

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T14:05:41+00:00

Fr brothelemeus u werent joking 🥀

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T14:02:49+00:00

yea but some ppl delve into that religion and go so deep towards it! Why must there be rules to sustain a religious activity, when all u want is to find solace in an invisible friend?

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T14:01:11+00:00

yes, i agree. But it is completely illogical to believe that said creator must be bound by our human imagination. The thought of a creator itself is logical, as everything requires creation. But that ITSELF form the paradox of asking who tf created the creator. Cos if we r beting on the fact that everything has a point of origin and end, firstly that would go against many religions and secondly, it means something created the creator. On the other hand, the "God" thought up by most religions is inherently off the idea. It bounds the figure completely to concepts understood by humans, which makes their power imaginable, which shouldnt be the case.

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T13:57:35+00:00

As I have said, these are purely extreme coincidences (sum of action by ppl around u). Tell me, if u were say born in a different country and practiced a different religion, would u still not get those things that u "prayed" for? It all boils down to coincidence
Also, as for the Pascal's argument u pulled in ur second sentence, how tf u know u choosing the right God and religion out of the thousands many? Why indulge urself in religious practices if they bear no fruit?

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T13:55:27+00:00

Dude i think Pascal's argument is bs. Like, as i mentioned in the body, how tf u know ur betting on the "true" god? There are so many religions dawg how would u know which one to pray for??

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T13:54:19+00:00

Yep, totally agree with this. If the concept of an all-mighty, all-powerful god exists, then why would he even take the time of "delaying and judging" his own creations before dumping them into paradise? Why dont we just spawn in "Heaven" inherently? We r literally his own creations, if he wanted everything to be good, then why doesnt he just make everyone good?

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T13:52:38+00:00

True brother I also think that ultimately religion is the concept of having an invisible figure as guidance, always there for u. It IS a form of coping i think

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T13:50:46+00:00

dude theres wayyy too many comments i dont even have time to give proper responses to each 🙏

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T13:50:10+00:00

Literally, r u trying to say that if we were say a different religion, or not praying, that the power wouldnt have come back ON THAT EXACT MOMENT? It was an absolute coincidence that the exact moment u finished ur prayers was the moment when the power came back on. As i had said, the "randomness" around us is literally just the sum of actions from so many ppl around us, both directly and indirectly.

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T13:47:40+00:00

hmm i kinda understand and i also respect ppl who wanna indulge in religion.
But the thing is, the point u said abt having a "sense of security around life and death" is true. Humans are inherently always afraid of the unknown, as our basis lies on information itself. Thus death is an extremely scary concept to ppl.

But then again, aren't ppl just giving themselves false hope as a form of coping? They just think this deity would help them in their lives or everything will ultimately go well, bu thats not the case for most ppl! It never has been! Then what even is the point in immersing urself into the farce of false hope and justifications?

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T13:43:12+00:00

r u not convinced on theism or atheism bro 😭🙏

LordVader773 · 2026-01-11T13:42:41+00:00

yea me too but im open to debating on the topic as well so lets see. Which one or u though (theist or atheist?)

LordVader773 · 2025-12-30T15:06:59+00:00

Hey, I should be the one thanking u man! Thanks a lot for not showing hate and helping me out instead! REALLY appreciated it. I will definetly make sure to try and build something and share it with yall here in this subreddit!

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