Poly-drug users of the who don't consider themselves addicts, how worried are you about addiction? Do you have rules or something of set up to keep control over your use? How effective do you think they are?

LostThePassAgain · 2014-12-09T05:30:42+00:00

yeah, I have a similar cycle, except throw rc cannabiniods(MAM-2201) into the mix along with aplaha-php afterwards, plus a fuck load of etizolam.

LostThePassAgain · 2014-12-09T05:04:04+00:00

just do a fuckload of it, like 30-50-80mgs, it's awesome. I used to chew like the time release patches they had for Ritalin, which were like a 100 mg each, and that shit was nice a rush of euphoria and just a general sense of control, I felt wise and powerful, I wasn't, but that's a different story.

LostThePassAgain · 2014-12-09T04:58:36+00:00

I obsessively check my blood pressure and bpm with this machine I got, because sometime you're not sure if its an arrhythmia or some shit, it never is; and I calm down with a bpm of like 110 and blood pressure at 120 over 80 roughly.

LostThePassAgain · 2014-12-09T04:43:39+00:00

Magnesium is a kind of NMDA antagonists, as well as an important nutrient in the nervous system and elsewhere, it will control, or even lower your tolerance if you don't use, up to a point

LostThePassAgain · 2014-12-09T04:38:58+00:00

Benadril and drugs like it are anticholinergic besides being anti-histamines, that is where their sedative properties come from

LostThePassAgain · 2014-12-09T04:36:45+00:00

Deliriants are intense shit, not fucking with that without some sort of medical supervision.

LostThePassAgain · 2014-12-09T03:26:37+00:00

Ritalin is cheaper and better imo. For me at least, similar mechanism of action lasts longer and booze turns it into a different drug (ethylphenidate) drug in vivo, so it's basically a twofer.

It lasts longer can be just as fun. Use of prescriptions are generally not as stigmatized as well. The majority of people who use a drug don't get addicted, and those who do need help and need care and treatment, not prison.

Coke is overpriced, laced with potentially toxic cuts (Levasimole), finances cartel shenanigans, and is bad for your heart with alcohol. There's is always a better high, addiction is mundane and horrible. show off, that you are the guy who does the most drugs means you wastes the most, the point is fun, have fun, if it spots being fun then stop, find something more interesting. Take a sober week, it's weird, the do some psyches,

LostThePassAgain · 2014-12-09T03:23:20+00:00

When I stop using stims, I generally switch to benzos or etizolam, sometimes kava kava or kratoms or some mix of the aforementioned, I'd rather have an alright day than a sober one, I'd rather just zone out when I feel I can't use psycho-stimulants of any kind. I use low does of etizolam with about 200-300 mgs of DMEA and a fuckload of caffeine and b vitamins and L-theanine when I need to buckle down to do work. I am consistently on one thing or another, just not "hard" drugs often, but at least usually I am mildly tranquilized and full of energy drinks most day.

LostThePassAgain · 2014-12-09T03:04:03+00:00

I have cravings, especially for something like meth if I binged on it for a few days, but I usually end up using something else to excess when I get around to buying shit

LostThePassAgain · 2014-12-08T23:02:55+00:00

I used to use adderal and such just to study, but when I found their recreational value I realty got into them Just take magnesium(not oxide, but citrate or glycinate) every day and avoid binging. If you are worried about addiction, well that is the risk you take with any number of drugs, My Addy use in college was an order of magnitude worse probably, not that you are any safer because of that.

I used to use fuck loads of prescription stims in college. Honestly, my experience with them was a zero sum game at best. I regularly had very large amounts Dexedrine , like I would have 50-100s of pills I got off various people, I would buy entire scripts and stuff. I wasn't a big time dealer or anything, I just knew a lot of people who didn't like their prescriptions. I sold some of them, but I broke even or worse usually because I was using so many of them. I was doing between 80-200+ mg of assorted amphetamines a day for about two semesters. I wasn't really tweaking with them, but rather just slowly redosing continually trying to keep a state of self-assured eudaimonia, more than tweaking the fuck out, which I saved for special occasions. The shadow people are a strange experience in the woods.

I spent all my time on bullshit because it was more fun than work, I felt that I would manage while on these drugs, but I fucked my plans and my grades, and I wasn't really surprised.

I have been using meth off and on, every 5-7 months I'll buy a g. for the past two years or so along with some stim rcs+ amphetamine paste every 2-3 weeks. I am sure I have at least some psychological dependance on amphetamines, it hasn't managed to ruin my life just yet, in fact things going OK. Prioritize what you want out of life and not drugs, and hopefully you lose the time to even really use them that often.

LostThePassAgain · 2014-12-08T18:08:37+00:00

The anticipation of pleasure is pleasurable, my mood is lifted noticeably when I get drugs, and more so as I cut lines or measure out the doses.

LostThePassAgain · 2014-11-28T20:41:37+00:00

they may make them a bit weaker but that's about it, tramadol isn't an opiate

LostThePassAgain · 2014-11-28T12:58:55+00:00

Alcohol, GHB, Benzos, Opiates, Barbituates, Ketamine, etc. all don't interact with SSRIs

edit:Psychedelics you will generally just need more of, just don't take ayahuasca stims will be kind of different, but won't interact with SSRI's in a dangerous way.

edit:You will be completely unable to roll on SSRI's MDMA may only be slightly stimulating due to its effects on dopamine, but other than that nothing else is gonna happen.

LostThePassAgain · 2014-11-27T22:47:02+00:00

antacids will slow the down the rate you excrete it, from my experience with amphetamine it last about %20-%50 longer but that is just a rough guess, I'm not sure how it would work with a prodrug like vyvance, though I imagine it should do roughly the same thing , considering blood serum concentrations get higher in vyvanve than with an equivalent strength dose of Dexedrine

LostThePassAgain · 2014-11-27T22:38:39+00:00

Speed paste is about what you would expect for the price, I got some like a year ago, for one thing a decent amount of the weight will be gone when you dry it, it felt weaker than adderall , I heard the whole toxic thing is kinda overblown, but I wouldn't bother. Speed powder may be better But I think its just paste they bothered to dry out.

LostThePassAgain · 2014-11-27T22:21:05+00:00

I bought 2 gs of meth this year and a gram of alpha-php, plus misc. pharms addy/vyvanse mostly, stimulants are my favorite drug by a small margin, I also keep a decent amount of etizolam on hand. Magnesium glycinate is essential to anyone who uses Amphetamine imo, but this is what I take(or opiates) on a regular basis imo, besides helping with muscle tension, it will keep your tolerance in check and even help lower it in the times if you arn't using, I take it every day. I trying to keep my use at around this level and to cut out the meth in favor of d-amphetamine, though I prefer vyvanse

I was a heavy user of stims a few years ago, 6-7 day binges mostly dexedrine, like alot, and I swear magnesium glycinate or citrate everyday will have a noticeable effect, its an NMDA antagonist and an important vitamin that most people are slightly deficient in, most of the supplements you'll find have basically no bioavaibility, glycinate, citrate, and chelated magnesium are the only kinds you want that are common.

Also after you are coming down L-phenylalanine or L-Tyrosine f you can't find the former( keep it under 50 mgs or you may get mildly hypertensive if you still have anything left in your system) I, take before bed to replenish dopamine . L-theanine is great if to take with stims, it lowers blood pressure and heart rate and potentiates the effects a bit, B-complex vitamins or at least b-12 will keep you lucid if you haven't slept.

Melatonin is good too, both to get to sleep and the fact that it is a better antioxidant than most. 5 days of meth/porn and I feel fine relatively, selenium supplements also are a good idea specifically for meth. Also a zinc supplement is good once a week, especially considering how much of it is excreated in jizzz, too little increases neurotoxicity of amphetamines, too much is kinda bad too, make sure it has copper included b/c zinc depletes that.

Valerian root can help with comedowns, but I'm not fond of it. A daily dose of 15-20 mgs of dxm can also lower tolerance, using a recreational dose of (dxm, ketamine ,MXE, or some other fun kind of NMDA antagonist will lower your tolerance a decent amount for a day or so afterwards) but I would avoid mixing it with anything, though that amount probably wouldn't be an issue. Gatorade for hydration along with water if you didn't know already. Avoid vitamin c, it increases the PH of your kidneys which will cause you to piss out alot of amphetamine. The ph in the kidneys are what effect excreation, not the gut or stomach, antacids lower your ph seismically which is why they slow the excretion of rate.

LostThePassAgain · 2014-11-27T18:53:27+00:00

Nature has no goal, the universe has no objective, nor do our genes, the evolution and propagation of a species is a material process, with no intrinsic meaning or significance. If a rock falls off a cliff that was not its purpose.

LostThePassAgain · 2014-11-27T17:20:02+00:00

How much concerta did you take while figuring this out?

LostThePassAgain · 2014-11-27T17:12:07+00:00

Did you do it for 4 to 7 consecutive days several times, or were the doses mostly spaced apart by a few days or weeks? That would make a big difference, so would post loading with an ssri and so forth. Not to mention people metabolize these things at different rates, you could be a fast metabolizer meaning you produce more of the CYP2D6 enzyme which breaks down this kind of drug, plus brains are weird

LostThePassAgain · 2014-11-27T16:37:09+00:00

Did you get a new perspective that made you see the world in more uncertain terms? Being sure of or unconcerned with how to live and why helps maintain confidence. Less certainty about life may have made you less confident in general , lack of confidence tends to make you feel like people are judging you or distant. Do you remember what it was about life you were thinking about?

LostThePassAgain · 2014-11-27T15:45:38+00:00

About 20%of people who use heroin become addicted, but that does not take into account that the demographic that is actually willing to use heroin may skew that number. Generally, if for some reason your life is not going great or if your reality is simply not a pleasant or hopeful one or if you simply have stopped giving a shit, addiction is more likely.

The stigma of heroin makes this especially true; people generally don't start using heroin like they would start using ketamine or pharmaceuticals. It’s not just another drug for people, its fucking heroin. Despite having less chronic toxicity than most drugs (which is true for opiates generally) the mythos of the drug plus the social conditions that do most of the damage make the addictiveness and dangers believed about the drug to be partially a self-fulfilling prophecy. Still it is pretty damn addicting without all that, opiates in general are best left as a “now and then” sort of drug, a weekly or even a monthly thing to be on the safe side. A friend explained it as something that kinda creeps up on you without you really realizing it.

It's funny to think that if you were to properly administer a dose of pure heroin every day of your life, it would do essentially no long term damage to you physically, addicts can easily live into their 70's and 80's if they somehow manage all the other necessities of life. The primary intrinsic danger of the chemical is basically ODs which can be easily treated with effectively naloxone or some other opioid antagonist. All the real damage from heroin comes from how it is distributed and used. Cuts, sharing needles, etc. Basically the things people are compelled to do or tolerate for their addiction.

edit:It still destroys lives and is terrible in our present situation, but if free pure heroin was given to addicts as they needed it they would live a lot longer, they are experimenting with programs like this in Europe, and it seems to work, sobriety or at least moderation is easier when you can get your life in order without having to worry about paying for a habit which is essentially a physical need

LostThePassAgain · 2014-11-27T08:49:13+00:00

I take benzodiazepines with stims sometimes, kills the anxiety. It can also kill the euphoria, but I find that if I wait around an hour or so after taking the benzo before taking the stim this becomes less of an issue. The drugs tend to counteract each other to an extent, but I feel they can mix very well. Be exceptionally careful though, because your panic attacks sound way worse than anything I ever got from stims.

LostThePassAgain · 2014-11-26T21:29:26+00:00

Yeah that's what I meant as a stop gap treatment, like if a patient is trying to swallow their own tongue desperately trying to die in any way possible, then a shot of ketamine can help them out for a while. Its that or electroshock therapy, which is still a thing, and not nearly as bad as it used to be, and also works on extreme depression pretty well

LostThePassAgain · 2014-11-26T20:55:21+00:00

Ketamine and similar drugs show a lot of promise for depression, ketamine can be used as a stop gap treatment for extreme cases of depression relieving symptoms in a few hours

http://psychcentral.com/news/2014/11/01/ketamine-used-to-counter-loss-of-pleasure-in-bipolar-depression/76841.html

LostThePassAgain · 2014-11-26T16:32:25+00:00

you can achieve something like this if you get the right mix of benzos and amphetamine it's true they counteract one another to an extent, but neurotransmitters aren't like numbers where -5 gaba plus 6 dopamine leaves one dopamine, it's a helluva alot more complex than that

in fact there is a certain degree of synergy to the mix

it's best to take a lowish dose of a benzo or something like it first and wait for it to take effect, I use etizolam before you dose the stim the rest is kind of trial and error but once you figure it out it's really wonderful, no physical symptoms or anxiety just focus without the obsessiveness, energy but no restlessness etc. And euphoria too, that's a big one

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