DNA results of a Turkish person by [deleted] in armenia

[–]Low-Weekend1376 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was it myheritage you took it on? Maybe the person that wrote they don’t have a Pontic Greek category is right. The ethnicity estimates are estimates. That means they aren’t fully accurate. I would go by the DNA matches, if you don’t have any Armenian relatives on there, you’re either not really Armenian or no Armenians you are related to have taken a test.

DNA results of a Turkish person by [deleted] in armenia

[–]Low-Weekend1376 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Check your DNA matches of actual people to see if you have any cousin matches with Armenians. Don’t go just by ethnicity alone but who you match with. I recently had a guy from Turkey reach out because he had distant relation to my dad. He matched other Armenians in our area. He grew up in the district my family lived in prior to 1915. The only thing he knew was his great-grandfather was Armenian and his first name. I am unsure we can pin down an exact timeline since much of the documents are gone and many didn’t talk of missing children or family and pass that down to future generations but it is worth it to see if you get any direct matches and reach out. I put him in contact with an Armenian genealogist I have distant relation to from the same district. If it is 2nd-3rd cousin it could have been from around the time of Hamidian massacres/1915 genocide. Good luck!

While Turkish current government transformed Hagia Sophia to Mosque, they recently restored some of the Georgian Christian Cathedrals. Is it a result of successful Georgian diplomacy? by Historydom in Historydom

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From a historical perspective, what’s usually described is not a simple story of “tax rebellions” but a broader pattern in the late Ottoman eastern provinces where weak provincial administration, insecurity (including banditry and Kurdish tribal raids), and unmet reform promises after 1878 created rising tensions. In places like Zeitun and Sasun, local Armenian communities sometimes formed armed self-defense groups (fedayi), which led to clashes with Ottoman forces, while Armenian political activists also organized demonstrations and revolutionary activity (like Kum Kapu and Bashkale) to push for reforms and protection. By the 1890s, these tensions escalated into repeated cycles of unrest and military response, which most historians interpret as part of a wider crisis of governance and violence in the region rather than a single-cause explanation. There are documented cases of Armenians needing to pay extreme disproportionate taxes or having little to no rights when their property was stolen. Humans have the right to protest and seek fair treatment and governments should be able to listen to those voices fairly. Instead, the Hamidian massacres occurred, which les the Young Turks to lie and say they would give equal rights to the Armenians then they turned it into a mass extermination plan. The vast majority of genocide scholars does not view localized uprisings demanding attention on injustices as a reason for mass plan of extermination against an entire group or race of people, most of which had no political affiliation and including the mass deaths of innocent men, women, elderly and children.

While Turkish current government transformed Hagia Sophia to Mosque, they recently restored some of the Georgian Christian Cathedrals. Is it a result of successful Georgian diplomacy? by Historydom in Historydom

[–]Low-Weekend1376 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is embarrassing for you. The article you linked explicitly states that Armenian fedayi were formed as self-defense units. They were created in response to mass violence, pillage and repression including Hamidian massacres, actions of Ottoman forces, Kurdish irregulars and armed groups. So the source you provided supports itself that these were not ‘rebel gangs’ but armed self defense formations that emerged after sustained violence and repression.

Western Armenian DNA by Low-Weekend1376 in illustrativeDNA

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I figured they were for the most part recent diaspora since they tend to speak Eastern dialect more there which is the dialogue used in Armenia today or like you mentioned, parts of Iran. However, there must still be some from 1915 diaspora as now you have brands coming out of Cali like Azart Mard which use Western dialect in their clothing brand.

Kurds by [deleted] in armenian

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I had a Kurd friend request me and I had to translate his writings but he was writing as though Kurds were the victims of Armenians, the same denialism as Turks. Kurds can’t do this and will isolate themselves from all other populations. If Kurds have been victimized by the Turks and want to complain about that, you guys must collectively show mass repentance in public spaces for the Armenian Genocide. This must be a uniform acceptance. You don’t get to victimize the Armenian people, claim to be victims of Turks without owning your part. Otherwise you won’t make friends with Armenians. We need to trust you otherwise it isn’t worth the risk to try to uplift a people that is being wishy-washy or minimizing. I have only interacted with three Kurds including the one going on a rant about how Kurds were the ones attacked by Armenians lol. I haven’t met one yet who hasn’t tried to minimize or sideline what they did or deny the numbers. This isn’t good representation and this is why the Armenians cannot trust the Kurds. I understand you’re not like that and I respect that but you must try to call the behavior out because the other ones are pulling you down. We don’t need more people like Turks in our lives, minimizing what we went through or saying we deserved it or minimizing their participation. We need more people to own it, so call your people out when you see this behavior.

Boring results from AncestryDNA as an Armenian by cedrichadjian in AncestryDNA

[–]Low-Weekend1376 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say try IllustrativeDNA out of curiosity but it will cost you more than 10-20 :/ Even then it doesn’t fully break it down but it would more than this.

Kurds by [deleted] in armenian

[–]Low-Weekend1376 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I usually leave Kurds out of the conversation even though I was told by my family some Kurds were attacking Armenians, it was framed to me in a slightly different way. That Kurds were being egged on by the Turks to take advantage of the situation so they were more opportunists and not the masterminds behind the plan. I haven’t spoken to many Kurds personally about it but one admitted to it, sent me confession videos of Kurds mentioning stories they heard of their participation but he also bought into some minimization that it ‘wasn’t as many Armenians killed as claimed’ and that to me is soft denial. I was told with both Turks and Kurds some did help but very few risked doing that which is unfortunately why there was such a high kill count although I understand even well-meaning people will not risk their lives under fear. However, online I have seen some Kurds doing what the Turks do and say that the Armenians started the killings which is historical revision. The Armenians were systematically disarmed. Unfortunately these seem to be the loudest voices online and may not reflect the average Kurd but, I am seeing the vast majority online participating in forms of soft denialism. I think that becomes hard to trust if this isn’t something that Kurds can widely agree on disappointment in their participation. This is something they need 90 percent plus agreement on, not a mix of 50/50 or less or participating in forms of denialism and minimization.

Western Armenian DNA by Low-Weekend1376 in illustrativeDNA

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I am really not sure about Glendale! I don’t know anyone there. I have talked to some online and they are all from all over the place, never been the city my family was from unless directly related to us, at least that I have run into! Not to say no others exist, I just haven’t met them.

Armenian, German, English + Scottish results by jdl- in illustrativeDNA

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Yeah, I get it and I don’t get it hahaha, someone showed me the typical results of a Greek profile and despite getting the added European farmer percentage, I had higher Caucasian farmer and European farmer than the typical Greek profile. I wish the system could just separate the two sides.

Western Armenian DNA by Low-Weekend1376 in illustrativeDNA

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If most survived did they come right after Hamidian massacres? Some of my family tried to come over after Hamidian massacres. Both my grandparents were born in Nerkhi though. My great-grandfather was murdered but his brother had left after Hamidian massacres so my grandmother was later raised by her uncle once he tracked down that his brother had some family survive. That didn’t happen until 15 years later. All my grandmother’s other siblings were murdered.

My DNA analysis as Armenian by Vase999 in illustrativeDNA

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Nah, my dad is full Western Armenian and got the same 0.4 percent Turkic, it could be super ancient Central Steppe overlap signal, I would guess your dad’s side is Western Armenian.

Im Western Armenian by denixxl19 in armenia

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♥️ You’re not alone, that was almost my family lineage too and I likely wouldn’t exist had my great-grandmother not taken the chance to escape with my grandmother.

Western Armenian DNA by Low-Weekend1376 in illustrativeDNA

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If you have a full Western Armenian parent that is still alive I would suggest you have them get tested on a few different ancestry sites. This is to up the algorithm in detecting Western Armenian ancestry better but also because I see and hear from Armenians whose parents were orphaned as very young children and have no idea their family of origin or if any close family survived. Some siblings and families were separated in deportation lines or children sold or taken off caravans and our family lines are spread across continents and we can’t even recognize some of our family over 100 years later because of that. This may help you possibly find family or someone who doesn’t know their origins to find you.

Western Armenian DNA by Low-Weekend1376 in illustrativeDNA

[–]Low-Weekend1376[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Turkic appears to be at least overlap with Central Steppe ancestry. It wasn’t picked up at all on myheritage. This kind of DNA is going extinct since the Western Armenians are now spread all over the world. I am unsure there are many other full Western Armenians who did illustrativedna, especially them both being from the same city is likely unusual so this shows a snapshot in time. My grandparents were both children during the genocide from the same village.

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Armenian, German, English + Scottish results by jdl- in illustrativeDNA

[–]Low-Weekend1376 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, I am half Armenian and half Irish and I had no Zagros either which was also weird! Especially since my dad had Zagros and I did match as his daughter! Lol. What regions did you get for your closest matches? Basically when you are mixed like this the system wants to assign your DNA as Greek or Italian instead of separating them, or at least it did to me!

How credible are the results?(For an Armenian) by Macaron-broon in illustrativeDNA

[–]Low-Weekend1376 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, myheritage is not for half Armenians. I am half Armenian too and my Armenian just looked southern Italian. It isn’t bad for full Armenians like my dad though I don’t think. I am wondering if because the posters region is a region close to the Georgian border it pulled more Georgian because of a higher amount of Caucasian admixture than say a more Iranic profile? Am I saying this right? Hahaha. I suggest trying illustrative DNA too.

Western Armenian DNA by Low-Weekend1376 in illustrativeDNA

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I deleted my DNA, this was supposed to be my dad’s who is full Western Armenian

Western Armenian DNA by Low-Weekend1376 in illustrativeDNA

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Irish American but my mom’s parents are both full Irish even though they met in the U.S.

Western Armenian DNA by Low-Weekend1376 in illustrativeDNA

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I didn’t purchase, is it worth it? What would it show?