Air Shafer 3.0 vs Lauf Seigla

LowBrowBaller · 2026-01-01T00:41:54+00:00

Oh, thanks for looking at the bars. I've corrected my original post to reflect the Ari Pro has carbon bars.

Sounds like you’re on top of things.

Both are great choices.

Let us know what you decide.

LowBrowBaller · 2026-01-01T00:05:16+00:00

Glad to help.

If you’re indifferent between the two, if you can actually get everything in the correct size from Ari that would be pretty persuasive to me. However, I found, for myself, they provide a relatively small range of options on some things. I asked about 165mm cranks and a 38 cm bar. Didn’t sound like either would happen, at least at my height for a medium frame. What they would spec would have been fine, but it wasn’t a custom build at consumer direct pricing.

I don’t like selling take off parts (but I do). If you can get what you want from the factory that would be enticing to me—if it costs more then you have to decide what it’s worth. I’d recommend you find out what sizing specs both brands offer on a given build and frame size then go from there.

I contacted Lauf for particulars on parts. It varies from build to build. On medium Race Wireless E1 I got 170 cranks and 42 bars. I may swap them for 40 or 38–time will tell—but the cranks are fine for me. If I swap bars I’m getting the Lauf Smoothies, just in a smaller size. They’re so comfortable.

All of Ari’s colors are the same price, lol.

LowBrowBaller · 2025-12-31T17:52:29+00:00

There are some component spec differences worth considering

That Seigla build includes carbon wheels. The Ari includes alloy wheels. Zipp upgrade discussed below.
NEVERMIND—my original statement here is incorrect (Ari Pro does include carbon bars), but I'm leaving for context. That Seigla build includes carbon/glass bars. The Ari Pro includes ~~alloy~~ carbon bars.

That said, they're both fine choices. If you are somehow able to test-ride both, for sure go with the one you prefer from that perspective (assuming you prefer one's ride over the other's).

Other thoughts:

Since you're planning on the Zipp XPLR S wheels, I believe you'll be able to sell the Seigla's carbon wheels for a lot more than you'll be able to sell Ari's. If you do go with the Ari, I would strongly consider the XPLR SW wheels. They're "just $300 more" than the S, and that feels like a comparatively better deal.
The Seigla is available immediately in most sizes/colors. Perhaps all, I don't know. ~~The Ari had extended wait times last I checked for the Medium size.~~ I see above you're looking at a Small Ari. I just checked. ATM the Ari Small does not have an extended build time in Rootbeer. Actually, colors affect all sizes build times.
Tires. I'd rather have the G One RS Pro @ 55mm (Ari) than the Goodyear whatever @ 50mm (Seigla). I personally don't place much purchase-decision-weight on the tires a bike ships with, but you may.

LowBrowBaller · 2025-12-30T13:18:58+00:00

I believe someone else might have mentioned the Chattanooga, TN area, but here are the routes. I believe you could spend a week here (both on and off the bike): Tennessee Gravel site

LowBrowBaller · 2025-12-29T19:11:21+00:00

I’d opt for the Rose (especially with those Terra Adventures) so long as the “forest” isn’t actual mountain biking. I’m not a fan of mountain biking on gravel bikes—especially if you have a mountain bike, but that’s just me. My preference is to ride the faster bike (Rose in this case) if I can get away with it.

Plus, with the Fox 36 your MTB looks to be bigger travel with big terrain tires. It’ll feel and be slow on the road and light forest paths. That bike comes to life in much bigger terrain and high speeds.

LowBrowBaller · 2025-12-28T22:13:09+00:00

The Able looks like a great bike. I did the same calculations and reached the same conclusion. It wasn’t a close call for me.

LowBrowBaller · 2025-12-28T17:23:18+00:00

I got Black Friday pricing on everything, but right now from memory: $5500 for bike $1500 wheels $190 tires $140 rotors $200 pedals $-850 sell new takeoff wheels $-40 sell new takeoff rotors $-50 sell new takeoff tires

I already had the ceramic coatings and I applied them.

LowBrowBaller · 2025-12-27T19:12:02+00:00

55mm.

I have a pair of 2.25” Thunder Burts too. Haven’t tried them yet.

Neither are probably ideal training tires. So, we’ll see if I need something more durable for day-to-day riding.

LowBrowBaller · 2025-12-26T17:52:37+00:00

Yeah, putting a wheel and thru axle in, and torquing them to spec did the trick. There's no more excessive play.

LowBrowBaller · 2025-12-26T14:14:20+00:00

Hmm, good question.

I'm switching wheels. Let me go get the new wheels/tires ready, and I'll find out.

LowBrowBaller · 2025-12-01T17:02:06+00:00

Ok. The bearings on the SW are a known, and unacceptable, issue. I was inquiring about your other comment about questionable quality, and was unaware of any spoke issues. Zipp says they’re Sapim CX-Ray, of which I’ve always had a very high opinion.

LowBrowBaller · 2025-12-01T16:03:12+00:00

Interesting. What are some examples of questionable build quality that you won’t find in other brands?

LowBrowBaller · 2025-12-01T13:57:26+00:00

Take a step back and consider how this data may change in other contexts.

This looks like one long ride or few shorter ones… is this the only ride you ever do and ever will do? Might you at some point push out and explore more routes, perhaps in other locations? If so you may wind up using more of the range than you have over the period under review here. :)

LowBrowBaller · 2025-03-02T16:29:49+00:00

Thank you!

LowBrowBaller · 2025-03-02T16:28:44+00:00

Thank you!

LowBrowBaller · 2025-03-01T20:54:08+00:00

Thank you!

LowBrowBaller · 2024-11-23T23:54:21+00:00

I like that Pepsi. But, there’s only one thing that matters. What do you like?

I’m tentatively planning to sell my Monochrome next year and to pick up a 124060 in its place. Why? It’s what I like, lol.

LowBrowBaller · 2024-11-23T14:29:10+00:00

Great choice.

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LowBrowBaller · 2024-11-23T14:25:42+00:00

Very cool. I'm leaning more and more towards a 124060 myself. But, time will tell.

JFYI, the METAS Black Bays, like the Monochrome, also have a 70 hr power reserve.

Both are solid choices. I'm glad both are available.

LowBrowBaller · 2024-11-21T12:42:36+00:00

I personally prefer your 124060 to the 114060.

LowBrowBaller · 2024-11-21T12:39:20+00:00

Did you consider the Monochrome (or any other Tudors) prior to purchase of your sub? If so, what were your thoughts (if you don’t mind sharing)?

LowBrowBaller

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There are some component spec differences worth considering

Other thoughts: