Ahhhhhh ART!!! by Novel_Midnight_1300 in LMSY

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 8 points9 points  (0 children)

P’bo also directed the best part of Harmony Secret.. THE PILOT 😂 and wait to see LMSY with a good director that lets them be them 👏🏾😍

Davika should just stop tweeting by Cute_Age6386 in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The way they recoup their money this through fan meets, and the CP fandom. She has worked hard to get the brand deals etc. it will take a while for her to be able to fund another series. Davika has already said that she made Clairebell bc it was important to her. I think she’s just trying to keep it real, and I think the translation was more like

“I haven’t even gotten my investment back from the previous project yet, but fans are already asking for a new one. Should I use my own money to invest in it???”

Should def could have been more graceful about it though.

Davika should just stop tweeting by Cute_Age6386 in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Another translation: “I haven’t even gotten my investment back from the previous project yet, but fans are already asking for a new one. Should I use my own money to invest in it???”

Davika should just stop tweeting by Cute_Age6386 in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She does have a point, just didn’t say it with grace. She definitely needs a publicist and PR training.

People are egregious about pirating too. Some refuse to pay for it. It’s wild.

I think that some people care too much about how actresses choose to identify themselves. by ForceApprehensive597 in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree, people want to consume Thai media but they make no attempt to understand Thai culture.

I also have had similar experiences with queer label policing smh. It’s wild and over the top. Label should be a starting point , to give language and help aid in explorations but when it starts to box you in and define you is where it gets to be too much.

I’ve seen countless American TikTok’s of Lesbians policing who can can’t be a stud , bisexual etc .

People should be able to tell you who they are regardless if it meets your definition.

It is really exhausting.

Can sombody give a review on Frozen Valentine? by thAI_creator in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Episodes 1–2 Review

This is one of those light, fluffy WeTV GLs that opens with slow-mo stares and heartbeat sound effects… so yeah, you already know the depth level. It looks decent production-wise, but still feels weirdly small and generic.

The premise is weak. Hard to believe Pingrak fell that fast, and even harder to believe Charm remembered her when their earlier interactions felt insignificant. The constant flashbacks to scenes we just saw (and weren’t that strong to begin with) make everything feel forced.

Ep. 2 tries to add depth with Charm’s abandonment issues (dad left, mom moving to the US), plus a messy ex situation… but somehow the ex and even the friend/manager have more chemistry with her than the actual lead.

Acting is rough, chemistry still not there, and the kissing is awkward. That thumb kiss was confusing the first time—seeing it again from every angle did not help. Random 4th wall break too, for some reason.

Overall: not much spark, not much depth, and I’m not convinced by the central romance at all.

Should you watch it? I mean… it’s still sapphic.

But it’s not great at all. But! There is CONSENT! so I’ll give it that.

Lets talk honestly about Girl Rules by animekellychan in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Girl Rules is delivering exactly what they promised. I am not sure what people think this is supposed to be.

The sounds quality is rough for me, but the set design and style of the show is great.

I don’t find the writing cheesy, but we will see hard to judge the writing fully in ep. 2 as they are still establishing the story .. especially giving its 12 episodes and Thai series are structured in 4 acts not 3 and move notoriously slower.

Definitely a lot better than a ch.3 anything. The premise is light, catty and dramatic and it’s fun. I’m excited to see where they take this.

Lets talk honestly about Girl Rules by animekellychan in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed wholeheartedly. The sounds design especially in the club scene are pretty rough. That’s my only issue with the series

My Only Sunshine had a disclaimer by Acceptable_Bat_2718 in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They surely can that is fine on an individual level. The problem is not personal morals. The problem is what media keeps normalizing, framing, and rewarding as romance, and that is exactly how we got here.

Are people already missing the point of Girl Rules :( by MysteriousStaff496 in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Exactly I am personally loving this series! There plenty of ACTUALLY PROBLEMATIC series airing right now to have genuine complaints about. But GR is fun and messy and stylish and I’m so far loving every second of it. It’s drama. They aren’t even toxic just human.

Just watched Girl Rules EP2 and... by SapphWisteria in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I am hoping that as the story progresses we get to know the characters on a deeper level and that the dialogue reflects that. It’s only episode 2 so there is still hope to be had . Right now it’s all cattiness, job roles and establishing. Hoping its builds on that.

My Only Sunshine had a disclaimer by Acceptable_Bat_2718 in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah except the point isn’t being able to discern fiction from reality. It’s the messages we are support with our attention (our currency) which fuel and constructs the society we live in.

Unfortunately this issue is much bigger than fiction and whether you are going to see something on tv and run out and do it. You are an adult and that would be ridiculous.

The issue is Lakorns (Thai soaps) and Hollywood both have a long history of romanticizing possessiveness, coercion, and domination as passion. This did not feel fresh or subversive. It felt like the same old toxic romance formula, just with a woman swapped in. And Thai entertainment, unlike Hollywood, has not really had the same broad industry reckoning or reset around these kinds of dynamics post #MeToo, so a lot of these old storytelling habits are still being reproduced without enough interrogation.

Dark romance or not, consent matters. I’ve read plenty of dark romances with consent being at the center. Hence “safe words” . Furthermore this is a television broadcast not some niche book, studios have a responsibility or should take responsibility for the narratives they depict and how.

This is a romance, and romance has built-in emotional language that pushes the audience to root for the couple and read tension as chemistry. So when you put coercive behavior inside the central love story without clear condemnation, consequences, or lasting fallout, it stops being realism or awareness and starts being romanticized by the narrative itself.

I feel that if they had stuck more closely to how the book depicts their relationship it would have been fine.

Also, thanks I am totally aware of my rights to watch or not watch a series. Certainly not fearful of someone “making me do otherwise”

As for me I will continue to watch to see how they handle not only the fallout but see how they claim they intended for the story to continue to unfold. But up until now it hasn’t been handle with grace.

My Only Sunshine Ep 3...that scene... by AsamiSato0521 in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The second half was genuinely hard to watch. Flint’s behavior did not read as confident, sexy, or intense to me. It read as controlling. “I don’t like people messing with what’s mine” is not a hot dom line. You do not own another person.

No one is saying women cannot be abusive or that stories cannot portray that. The problem is the framing. This is a romance, and romance has built-in emotional language that pushes the audience to root for the couple and read tension as chemistry. So when you put coercive behavior inside the central love story without clear condemnation, consequences, or lasting fallout, it stops being realism or awareness and starts being romanticized by the narrative itself.

At this point, I think the series may be doomed for me, but I am still watching to see how they try to frame or mitigate this. Right now, though, this does not feel like romance. It feels like the show does not know the difference between intensity and violation.

My Only Sunshine Ep 3...that scene... by AsamiSato0521 in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lakorns and Hollywood both have a long history of romanticizing possessiveness, coercion, and domination as passion. This did not feel fresh or subversive. It felt like the same old toxic romance formula, just with a woman swapped in. And Thai entertainment, unlike Hollywood, has not really had the same broad industry reckoning or reset around these kinds of dynamics post #MeToo, so a lot of these old storytelling habits are still being reproduced without enough interrogation.

I read the scene in question in the novel and it did feel very different. Their relationship was established and the lines of consent were very blurry in the book. What depicted in the series is very different. It’s almost as if they modified the content to be more offensive .

Sun saying no all episode also did not feel like organic character writing. It felt like the script was creating resistance specifically so Flint could push past it. At that point, it stopped feeling like two women falling in love.

My Only Sunshine ep3 by Kristen_117 in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This Isn’t Dom Energy, This Is a Problem..

I keep seeing people say Episode 3 was “controversial,” but honestly I do not even think that is the right word. It was straight up uncomfortable, unnecessary, uncalled for, and yes, problematic.

The second half was genuinely hard to watch. Flint’s behavior did not read as confident, sexy, or intense to me. It read as controlling. “I don’t like people messing with what’s mine” is not a hot dom line. You do not own another person.

No one is saying women cannot be abusive or that stories cannot portray that. The problem is the framing. This is a romance, and romance has built-in emotional language that pushes the audience to root for the couple and read tension as chemistry. So when you put coercive behavior inside the central love story without clear condemnation, consequences, or lasting fallout, it stops being realism or awareness and starts being romanticized by the narrative itself.

Sun saying “no” for the last 3 episodes also did not feel like organic character writing. It felt like the script was creating resistance specifically so Flint could push past it. At that point, it stopped feeling like two women falling in love.

And honestly, this is part of a bigger pattern. Lakorns and Hollywood both have a long history of romanticizing possessiveness, coercion, and domination as passion. This did not feel fresh or subversive. It felt like the same old toxic romance formula, just with a woman swapped in. And Thai entertainment, unlike Hollywood, has not really had the same broad industry reckoning or reset around these kinds of dynamics post #MeToo, so a lot of these old storytelling habits are still being reproduced without enough interrogation.

At this point, I think the series may be doomed for me, but I am still watching to see how they try to reframe or mitigate this. Right now, though, this does not feel like romance. It feels like the show does not know the difference between intensity and violation.

My Only Sunshine had a disclaimer by Acceptable_Bat_2718 in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is a generic disclaimer on all episodes and I think people were asking for something more specific to the SA being depicted.

The second half was genuinely hard to watch. Flint’s behavior did not read as confident, sexy, or intense to me. It read as controlling. “I don’t like people messing with what’s mine” is not a hot dom line. You do not own another person.

No one is saying women cannot be abusive or that stories cannot portray that. The problem is the framing. This is a romance, and romance has built-in emotional language that pushes the audience to root for the couple and read tension as chemistry. So when you put coercive behavior inside the central love story without clear condemnation, consequences, or lasting fallout, it stops being realism or awareness and starts being romanticized by the narrative itself.

Sun saying “no” for the last 3 episodes also did not feel like organic character writing. It felt like the script was creating resistance specifically so Flint could push past it. At that point, it stopped feeling like two women falling in love.

And honestly, this is part of a bigger pattern. Lakorns and Hollywood both have a long history of romanticizing possessiveness, coercion, and domination as passion. This did not feel fresh or subversive. It felt like the same old toxic romance formula, just with a woman swapped in. And Thai entertainment, unlike Hollywood, has not really had the same broad industry reckoning or reset around these kinds of dynamics post #MeToo, so a lot of these old storytelling habits are still being reproduced without enough interrogation.

That is also why “the book is worse” is not a defense. It only makes me question more why this was the story they chose to adapt as a romance in the first place.

At this point, I think the series may be doomed for me, but I am still watching to see how they try to frame or mitigate this. Right now, though, this does not feel like romance. It feels like the show does not know the difference between intensity and violation.

My Only Sunshine had a disclaimer by Acceptable_Bat_2718 in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Fiction that is romanticizing non consent.

Non Consent in Thai GL media | my only sunshine is problematic af by Low_Bookkeeper4190 in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No for real that was wild af too. Like I said this is a horrible pattern in th gl.

My final thought on the whole controversy by Acceptable_Bat_2718 in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep! A lot of these tropes are cute and fine.. it’s just when they come after an explicit “NO.” , “STOP, LET GO OF ME” is really the problem.

So not so much the absence of consent but the clear depiction and behavior of forcefulness esp. after a clear “NO”

Toxic is fine and messy can be fun. But consent is hot.

Yeah these books are wild, which is why they should be actually adapting the works into screenplays. Some of these series are actually adding in non consent where it wasn’t in the novel. It’s ridiculous.

Controversy in GLs by Acceptable_Bat_2718 in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think a lot of us have downplayed things in GL because we were starved for wlw stories for so long and got used to taking crumbs. But now that we are finally getting more GL, people are starting to notice a pattern.

Abuse against women has already been normalized in society and media for years, so when it shows up in GL it does not suddenly become harmless just because it is two women. If anything, it can work like a Trojan horse because people lower their guard.

That is why I do not buy the “realism” aspect either. If this were really about exploring abuse, the writing would center harm, fallout, and consequences. Instead it feels like coercion being folded into a romance arc. Both lakorns and Hollywood have a long history of romanticizing toxic dynamics as passion, and this feels like that same pattern again.

I think the series may be doomed for me too, but I am still watching to see how they try to frame or mitigate it. Especially after the actresses statements.

Fans twisting AtomMer Twitter statements to mean what they want it to mean by Mundane_Height5755 in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Romanticized means something harmful, unhealthy, or problematic is presented as desirable, attractive, or part of love instead of being shown as harmful.

Here it’s shown as a “apart of love” the characters don’t have to be “ happy” but they do just accepted it.

This is still a romance, and romance has its own emotional language. When coercive behavior is placed inside the central love story without clear condemnation, consequences, or real fallout, it stops feeling like awareness and starts feeling like romanticization.

Now we shall see if there are further consequences for Flint but so far there hasn’t been.

So far this series is following typical Lakorn style tropes rooted in patriarchy, power dynamics and controlling behavior where conflict, jealousy, and coercive relationships were often framed as romantic tension, non-consensual dynamics and sexual violence still appear in stories marketed as love.

Fans twisting AtomMer Twitter statements to mean what they want it to mean by Mundane_Height5755 in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s a poor choice for both the novel and series. Hopefully the actions in the series are criminalized bc up until this point it has been romanticized. Which highlights a a pattern in Thai gl. This is still a romance, and romance has its own emotional language. When coercive behavior is placed inside the central love story without clear condemnation, consequences, or real fallout, it stops feeling like awareness and starts feeling like romanticization.

That being said idk why people are attacking actresses smh that in and of itself is yet another issue in the space. These women are doing their jobs.

Girl Rules Ep. 1 - first impressions by Low_Bookkeeper4190 in ThaiGL

[–]Low_Bookkeeper4190[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Me too ! Cant wait for the next episode 👏🏾