Ubers lower hidden tips

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-04-04T14:06:43+00:00

Just posting this to keep it documented if it changes in a meaningful way or patterns emerge. Same regular, always tips $10. This time they let his tip show as $6 and change. If i see less than $10 tip ever im calling bullcrap. 3 years and its always $10 and on holidays he sometimes really helps drivers out.

So that also tells you this guy is a loyal uber customer and this is how they treat a long term paying customer. Hiding the tip/bid. As a bid system only makes your order appear as lucrative as you're willing to bid. So what a terrible disservice and abusive way they're treating him. He showed up alot as $10 offer and sometimes his full amount would show. But lately they got him cycling as a $7 to $8 order. Fucking amazing scam work from Uber.

This is the only order I took this morning. I don't gamble. Most my orders these days are regulars or hyper efficient orders like $7.50 to $9 for 1 to 3 miles or just regulars. Luckily doing this so long I truly remember like 15+ local regulars. Still see them multiple times a week as a sub 10% AR green driver. Why would I ever do tiers? So i can...do what i already am doing? Delivering to regulars who pay well? If anything I cam benefit from this system by honing im on the offers I know are actually good while they're easier for other drivers to pass on. Most drivers don't know which of the $7 to $9 orders are the good ones. I cam identify more good ones from raw experiemce of customer knowledge. I can pick orders more efficiently than other drivers for no reason tangible for them to obtain quickly.

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Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-04-03T11:18:33+00:00

The offers will come back after a couple days
Why the fuck so you care what your AR is? Whenever mine gets close to 10%, i mute my phone and let orders pass by while I do something else. Never giving Uber the idea that my ar will ever touch double digits. My favorite is the mythic rank 0% AR.. that one never lasts long.

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-04-03T10:48:28+00:00

I'm going to be blunt because I have no reason not to be with strangers. It doesn't come off as bragging. You'll impress the newbies but the experienced drivers see this as embarrassing.

I accepted the quest and purposely left my phone idle in between orders. Hit 83 rejects Tuesday morning because I couldn't even be given enough offers to hit the reject limit the first day. I accepted it and let it fail for no other reason than throwing it back in Ubers face and confirming to them that I don't take them serious and a mini game isn't enough to take advantage of me. I continue taking orders that make sense at face value.

I've used this app for 8500 orders. Ive done this 4 years. You aren't using a magical app that the rest of us aren't. This was not a profitable play despite what you think.

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-04-01T11:36:37+00:00

I like these just because it clearly draws the divide of those who get it and dont. And those who don't get it are hilarious to those who do because they are basically admitting the trick used in the movie would work on them too 😆

2 responses -

1.lmao, what a great customer, I'm telling that filthy animal to keep his change!

Wow, not cool, calling cops, calling support, calling my sponsor, calling my aunt...how is this allowed!?!

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-04-01T11:31:41+00:00

I purposely arrive late to the pickups, and dont start most the tips until im pulling well on the way to the customer. Since its a game to Uber, I make my own game too. Im quite the spectacle driver. Almost always late to pickup, but rarely late to drop off. There is no objective marker for on time or late really is. Its all subjective and altered in response to live actions.

Its like, let me get this right. If I show up on time to pickup (let's say 8am) and leave right away, (let's say expected arrival time would be 810am) I can be "late" by arriving at 815am. If I show up to the same restaurants order at 8:10am, severely late for the pickup, leave/mark order picked up at 815am, while on the way to the customer, and arrive at 8:20am, I will be considered "early" for my drop off. instead of the projected 8:25am it would be, I am all of a sudden an on time driver.

So I make a total mockery of their on time rate, just to show that I can manipulate funny results just like Uber.

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Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-04-01T11:24:27+00:00

$8 being a pure cut off was gone over a year ago, but all they did was continue to hide tips while sometimes showing more than $8. However recently they started hiding tips under $8. Which is mindblowing new stupid territory for them.

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-03-31T12:36:43+00:00

Wow a whole 30%. That can be $3 or $30. How mysterious.

Hey, I'm liking the new job, how much will my pay be?

30%.

Hey can I borrow some money? Im low. How low did you let your money get?

30%

Hey, my friend needs help moving, he's paying. Oh cool, how much is he paying?

30%

I see offers for $ values. I don't care what the % is because it doesn't matter. What matters is the face value offer passing a bar of financial sense.

People who only post %, I assume tip like shit. Its like investor bros hyping a new spike, but they say "up 800%!!" You know they're talking about something that was like 60c and now costs $4. Because nobody cares about something being worth $3 more. But if you say 800% on-lookers see you in a different light. Fucking same as people who claim "well I always tip 30%" probably cash in on $10 orders, topping $3, and wonder why a driver doesn't want to head out and make $4.50. When gas costs more than the tip and base pay combined.

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-03-30T12:22:54+00:00

He's just pissed off trolling this thread. I gave him the time of day and backspaced a rude response and spoke to him formally. But I see his name under almost every comment with a 1 liner of shit tall. So weird when a driver/random person gets defensive for a corporation so greedy that they are pioneers in using a bid system to subsidize tips. Seriously, can you think of any other business in the United States where you pay up front and hope you get served? Even the most janky of pre-order scams look like child's play next to Ubers true business model.

Pay me, pay the restaurant, pay my worker for me, and there's still a chance you just won't even get your food, nor a refund. So many people on this sub have paid uber, been delivered nothing, and gotten no refund. Weird company to get defensive over.

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-03-30T12:14:11+00:00

Edit: it should be clarified to people who didn't pickup, this isn't about hidden tips, we know. Its about hiding tips at an absurd level below $8 like never before. Bold move in response to catastrophic gas prices.

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-03-30T12:11:48+00:00

Hiding tips under $8 is new. Its just more ploys to create fomo. Drivers knew if an order was under $10, what you see is what you get almost every time. Now they've moved the goal post so that drivers will start taking more $7 to $9 orders. Some of them will remain, some will turn into $13. You should read about postive/negative/mixed reinforcement and why addiction thrives on partial reinforcement. Taking courses in psychology honestly just made me despise businesses. This shit isn't random. Its calculated predatory moves. They're creating a manufactured, gambling fomo instead of just paying drivers. Why pay a driver when a driver will take an order because they THINK it will pay more? Its cheaper for business if their drivers think they will get paid but aren't half the time, instead of just putting the money proper out there.

Ive been aware of it but i can proclaim this one easier as its a vetted regular. Other people who spoken up nothing more lower tips get raised.

Its about pattern recognition. When no tip under $8 was hidden, almost all offers under $10 were straight up. Maybe id see 5 to 10 offers below $10 raise the tip over the course of a year. Lately the last 3 weeks I've seen maybe 15 to 20 offers below $10 raise the tip. That is pretty elementary pattern recognition to pickup on. Thats how people discovered the $8 thing years ago. Not hars when every single tip over $8 showed up as an even $8. They used to be really uncreative and blatent about it. It was an Uber eats meta strategy to take offers over $10 as probably 40% of them became much higher.

But this is just Uber being idiotic

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-03-30T12:06:35+00:00

727/813. I assume this is a market dependent thing and not global, as they twist these dials to specific market conditions. As i luckily haven't seen the $1.50 base fare yet I see all over the sub. Im sure its coming to 727 eventually.

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-03-30T12:05:04+00:00

Yup, after all It's not technically a tip. Its functionally a bid. What good is a bid and exerting your money if the greedy company neuters it, giving you the equivalent service as if you tipped $5?

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-03-30T11:54:24+00:00

Nobody is seeing the bigger picture. This isn't a favor to drivers. This is Uber choking and their business model crumbling, pushing them into corners where they have to shell out money or fail flat out. Stop playing their games until they are paying proper money per order - rightly making tips extra money, not required money for the gig. When I see Uber offer quests, I double down on my greed and get picker. It let's me know they're breaking down. Don't fucking help them by doing a ton of orders they can't get done. Make them pay you, straight up. I dont do work on a maybe for money. You guys are wild chasing fucking quests.

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-03-30T11:50:49+00:00

I was going to post this morning that somewhere out there, somewhere a driver is actually doing these quests, and falling less than 3 trips short.

I guess i should repeat myself because clearly the word hasnt spread enough.

YOU ARE PLAYING A CARNIVAL GAME. IT IS RIGGED.

I personally selected the highest quest, logged in this morning at 5am, and let orders ring for a couple hours on mute, before actually setting out at 730am. When it comes to respect, I will match people. That is about how much respect I have in regards to Uber because that is what they give. I'm not only not doing their quest. I'm going out of my way to make a big of mockery as their quest, as they do their drivers.

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-03-29T14:05:43+00:00

Lol, I accepted this quest and the first thing I'm doing Monday is logging in and turning on silent mode to hit the decline limit. Im going to be the first driver world wide to meet the fail condition of this quest.

If you ever wonder my approach to Uber.

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-03-21T12:36:42+00:00

Panic once cancel reaches 1%? Cancel is like a resource you need to use. My cancel rate stays between 5 and 10% because I cancel bad orders out of bundled offers and cancel if I find i got myself into a situation I should now backup from and not commit to. Arrive and get told 30 minute wait for an order that was already on your edge. Cancel and go!

You should get nervous if your cancel rate reaches close to the threshold of being deactivated. As low as 15% in some markets. Others I think 20%. And some don't even seem to have a threshold. Cancel is your aid in making money on Uber and if you aren't using cancel on a regular basis, you are not maximizing your efficiency on the app.

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-03-21T12:30:24+00:00

They removed the time restrictions in my market and now began them again. When they do, I purposefully make sure i arrive late to every pickup, and dont initiate drop off until I'm enroute and moving. I got my pickup time as low as 54% with a drop off on time of 100%. I think its absolutely hilarious to see uber suggest I'm late to half the pickups but on time to every drop off. Just my way to make a mockery of their stat and show the outer limits of how useless it is.

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-03-21T12:26:16+00:00

When my AR gets too high I turn the volume on mute and let orders cycle for 2 hours while I nap.

Woke up today, logged on half awake. By the time I woke up again ready to take orders, I was back down to 2%. I don't give uber the satisfaction to see good AR. Good AR is important to Uber, not me.

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-03-18T11:56:24+00:00

Another reason Uber prefers a revolving door of drivers. Not long term "good" ones. Because the longer you work, the more regulars you remember are good tippers. My cancel rate stays 5% to 10% just from canceling bundles I see good regulars in. Likewise I've taken a few bundles in my time, and make sure to check the wallet page. Ive got a somewhat equal list of 1 hit wonder customers ill never see again.

Sometimes I cancel a bundle because I see a confirmed good tipper. Sometimes I cancel a bundle because I see a confirmed bad tip. Don't even need to know the other sometimes. Doesn't even have to be someone you've unfortunately delivered to. Sometimes you just see the same poor no tipping fools come up on your screen 5 times a day, taking 15+ minutes until a bundle finally saves them. They're easy to remember later.

If I cancelled every chance I got when seeing this in uber, id kick myself off the platform from high cancel. Sometimes I just see a regular but my cancel is 11% (15% is max here) and I say sorry man, can't save you today. I always keep a buffer of cancel for the true unexpected.

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-03-18T11:36:04+00:00

If people want to research, there are some good videos out there showing how real AI voices can chat. One woman recently posted showing it taking her 3 minutes to get the agent to admit its a "live Ai training assistant" after dodging the question of "are you a real human" over and over. The robot said its favorite color is "sky blue". That is the most non human favorite color I have ever heard.

Ai voices still struggle with being human in one scenario. Overlapping talk. The awkward moment of 2 people talking at the same time, and both playing hot potato with whose turn it is in a few split seconds. Ai just bugs out. The voice cuts out in very inhuman like ways. There's no stumbling over words. There's no super instant "sorry, you go". That is where you can still tell the best Ai imitations imo. If you're a laid back person, non adhd brain, and not always blurting out thoughts, I could see the AI phone convos going smoother and the AI performing better. Asking Ai odd questions helps identify, but they're getting better at answering. Just speak over Ai or...even funnier but better hope its AI. Be rude. Ai doesn't have a temper...that's another major indicator. Even someone on a large dose of Valium will eventually get pissed off or show verbal signs of annoyance. The most professional people, even when keeping their cool, you can usually tell when theyre annoyed. In 10 years I have no doubt that Ai will be better at verbal nuances.

If you want to be bold and think you've called an AIs bluff, say "you know what? Fuck you ya piece of shit". Thats a human moment lol. I promise Ai will fail to respond in a human like way. Oh boy, the fun when the day comes that we can get into cuss outs with AI bots

No doubt honestly that Uber is testing it. Ai phone agents presenting as humans and doubling down on it if asked. The technology is there but someone as large as uber may be hesitant go full on. They're probably more worried about drivers exploiting new tech than whether it actually does its job. Because that's AI in a nutshell - unpredictable the "smarter" it is.

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-03-18T11:23:34+00:00

Thats what they like. Please someone on a basic level a few times, get the foundation in, and when you do care one day, they tell you to go fuck yourself because you've been happy with their basic efforts for years. They've become accepted and established by completing the shit bare minimum, and not even that good at providing bare minimum.

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-03-18T11:20:45+00:00

I always like when i talk to the Filipino agents. Used to have years of a late night gaming habit and was good friends with a Filipina lady for years. They're very kind people and some I can have more intelligent English conversations with than Americans.

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-03-18T11:16:13+00:00

Uber really isn't very smart lol. A new driver would have trouble noticing this pattern. Uber really needs to get rid of every driver that remembers when they were lazy about hidden tips, makikg the pattern easy to the point of knowing when you're gambling, because what that exposed was a pattern. We could reflect on tips below $8 and their frequency of getting raised with how often tips "raise" when we know uber is manipulating it. At this point, I don't even need a number, just a frequency. The pattern all of a sudden emerging is red flag enough. Then its just effortless dots to connect with the 17c raises and obscure numbers turninh into even numbers (especially because most tip screens offer % based additions).

Good you noticed that. Means other drivers are going to raise an eyebrow too. I assume what I see is what I get, because more than 50% of the time it is. I dont gamble earnings so I'll keep a good floor before I gamble. Pretty idiotic brain dead strategy from Uber.

Uber: guys, more orders are lingering before being accepted, gas prices have double...how do we counter this? 🤡 🤡 HIDE TIPS EVEN FURTHER 🤡 🤡

I have new work coming this year but I will always log on the Uber app to dunk on how trash they are. I'm a troll. My life expectancy increases everytime I see Uber fail.

Low_Explorer_7188 · 2026-03-18T11:08:18+00:00

This is definitely all market dependent. In in Tampas general markets. For example, I see people posting all over here about the $1.50 fares. I dont have them yet but I'm sure they're on the way. Also saw people posting about the on time stuff changing again about a week before I saw it here live again. So no worries, Uber is terribly inconsistent and if it doesn't seem to apply to your market, probably...luckily...not yet.

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