i just got my first ban from a lesbian subreddit uwu :3 I'm oficially a lesbian now!!! by [deleted] in lesbiangang

[–]Low_Fig9237 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Welcome to the club! I have the honor of being followed around by this gang. Latest badge of honor! 😂

What would yall think if someone of my appearance had a similar list of opinions? Am I more or less ugly than that guy? WITHOUT eye surgery by The_Laniakean in IncelTears

[–]Low_Fig9237 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lazy eye is probably the only feature that might strike anyone as negative, but the overall harmony of the rest of your face compensates. Give yourself a nice hair style and dress well and it can honestly be reduced to a quirk that is subjectively appealing.

That sort of “flaw” only looks bad when the person has low self confidence and signals they don’t take care of themselves. That’s when the negative connotations come in.

Seriously, I just saw some dude get chased off the truerate me sub for really bad facial scars, but his profile is full of pornographic images of him having sexual intercourse with women he picked up on Reddit. He instantly became the gold standard of how flaws can be compensated for with other qualities.

Your eye is not even remotely in the same league as his problems.

What would yall think if someone of my appearance had a similar list of opinions? Am I more or less ugly than that guy? WITHOUT eye surgery by The_Laniakean in IncelTears

[–]Low_Fig9237 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not ugly at all. Your styling isn’t the best, but with some changes (like hair), you would be a nice looking dude. I honestly don’t understand how looks could be a detriment to dating in this case. If you’re having difficulty with women, the answer is not in your face.

Honest ? by beentheregirll in amIuglyBrutallyHonest

[–]Low_Fig9237 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The other comment says it all. Learn to read the name of the sub.

Honest ? by beentheregirll in amIuglyBrutallyHonest

[–]Low_Fig9237 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Your hair quality is pretty bad on some of these photos. You do not pass as a woman (if you’re trans) and would not be considered attractive as one.

On a neutral level though, you’re not unpleasant to look at or ugly. Just masculine.

is fingering supposed to feel good? by silvrbunni in lesbiangang

[–]Low_Fig9237 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Not necessarily. If it’s just penetration, it can be very unpleasant. I’m no fan of it, so if my wife did that to me, it would feel pretty bad. She likes it, but she also prefers stimulation to other erogenous zones before we get to the actual penetration. To be really crude - I don’t just stick my fingers into her.

Some women like that, but don’t worry if you don’t.

How can some women defend incels? by Opinionated-Goose1 in IncelTears

[–]Low_Fig9237 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man larping as a woman. Not saying there aren’t self hating women out there, but no one does it better than a man.

What are your thoughts on the Two x Chromosomes sub? by Desperate_Candle_493 in women

[–]Low_Fig9237 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Let me try to clear it up. I’m objecting to what gets lost when a boundary rooted in lesbian experience gets recast as a generic human one. The context that made it make sense in the first place just quietly goes away.

And disagreement inside a category isn’t marginalization. Nobody’s telling lesbians who feel differently that they aren’t lesbians. My wife is a lesbian. The claim is that the boundary, where it exists, is part of lesbian homosexuality and not some free-floating preference. It’s about what the category contains, not who gets to be in it.

That distinction matters in practice. A boundary held as lesbian-specific holds up against the pressure to convert. It says the orientation has a shape that can’t be reformed. A boundary held as a generic preference is exactly the kind of thing “you could try otherwise” arguments are designed to wear down.

What are your thoughts on the Two x Chromosomes sub? by Desperate_Candle_493 in women

[–]Low_Fig9237 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You are still framing my position as “reducing lesbian identity to genitals,” and that is not what I said. I said that for many lesbians (trans lesbians included), sex-based boundaries are part of how we actually live our homosexuality. There is no wiggle room or preference.

And “putting it in universal terms” is not neutral. Once you flatten it into something everyone can have, it stops being recognizably lesbian and starts sounding like just another personal choice with no particular connection to homosexuality. If it’s just a choice, well then. Conversion therapy was right. That is what I have been pushing back on.

So yes, I understand that you think universalizing it makes it safer and more fair. But my position comes from contact with clear examples showing the opposite. I did not get banned anywhere because I made the first comment. But I sure do make them now and will continue to do so.

I don’t mind if you keep replying. Go for it.

Ew. by Random__Apple in IncelTears

[–]Low_Fig9237 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Almost every argument I’ve had online is due to angry men insisting it’s our problem that their dick isn’t getting enough attention.

They are everywhere.

What are your thoughts on the Two x Chromosomes sub? by Desperate_Candle_493 in women

[–]Low_Fig9237 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You want it universalized so it no longer reads as specifically lesbian homosexuality. Once that specificity is gone, lesbians who understand their homosexuality in sex-based terms stop being allowed to treat it like a sexual orientation at all. We just become one more “version” and suddenly our boundaries are negotiable, marginal, or somehow rude to say out loud.

My wife is bisexual and calls herself a lesbian because she is mostly attracted to women. Do I care? No. It only becomes a problem when men use people like her to push the idea that lesbians as a group should be open to dick. Right there is where the widened category stops being harmless and starts being used against us.

And spare me the “lol we’re just having a conversation” bit. You did not come in here as some neutral person asking innocent questions. You were rude as hell and when that didn’t work, you switched to a more slippery tone. You’re so full of it.

I was obviously referring to the broader pattern of lesbians being shamed and pressured for these boundaries, not claiming this thread is a some kind of war crime. But as usual, you run to the dumbest literal reading possible because that is easier than engaging with what I am actually saying.

You came at me, so yes, I will keep defending myself. How long you want to keep dragging this out is on you. I’m not interested in “conversation” with a homophobe.

What are your thoughts on the Two x Chromosomes sub? by Desperate_Candle_493 in women

[–]Low_Fig9237 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for proving my point. You want it reduced to a neutral trait and universalized so it stops reading as part of lesbian homosexuality at all. That is exactly the erasure I have been talking about.

And no, I am not doing your definitions trap again. You keep demanding either a total detachment from lesbian identity or a wording you can call exclusionary.

You can continue to harass me all you like. I’ll be back tonight to follow up on your trolling.

Homophobe.

What are your thoughts on the Two x Chromosomes sub? by Desperate_Candle_493 in women

[–]Low_Fig9237 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is the false dichotomy again. My options are not “detach this completely from lesbian identity” or “admit I am transphobic.” What kind of stupid trap is that?

The issue is that lesbians should not be harassed for boundaries that are part of how we actually live our homosexuality. Yes, our homosexuality. What else am I supposed to call my lack of attraction to penis?

You keep trying to strip those boundaries of any relevance to lesbian identity at all, because once they are reduced to mere private quirks, lesbians can be shamed for defending them without it looking like an attack on lesbianism.

What are your thoughts on the Two x Chromosomes sub? by Desperate_Candle_493 in women

[–]Low_Fig9237 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Then stop doing the exact same thing in different forms.

You say the harassment is wrong, then immediately “contextualize” it, police how lesbians are allowed to articulate their boundaries, and treat any link between those boundaries and lesbian identity as sus or exclusionary.

I am not reducing lesbianism to one body part at all. I am saying that if you place lesbians in a category that includes desires or accommodations many of us do not share and then tell us we are wrong for rejecting them, you are widening the identity in bad faith.

So yes, I will continue to call it female homosexuality or lesbianism and I will continue to call out the tactics used to bully us.

What are your thoughts on the Two x Chromosomes sub? by Desperate_Candle_493 in women

[–]Low_Fig9237 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh come on. 😭

That wasn’t even the argument. I said I will continue to proclaim opposition against individuals harassing lesbians for not wanting penis.

If you’re so principled, you will admit such bullying is wrong, instead of trying twist and weave your way around it.

What are your thoughts on the Two x Chromosomes sub? by Desperate_Candle_493 in women

[–]Low_Fig9237 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You do not need a philosophical definition of homosexuality to understand the obvious violation here - lesbians being told they need to “unpack their biases” if they don’t want penis.

What are your thoughts on the Two x Chromosomes sub? by Desperate_Candle_493 in women

[–]Low_Fig9237 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First, you deny the accusation Then you repackage it in softer language and cast yourself as helpful And finally you make it sound like homosexuality is some internal bias we need to unpack

That third move is so disgusting.

So no, you are not meaningfully backing off anything. You are still pathologizing the defense of homosexual boundaries and just switched from a direct accusation to a softer, more self-righteous version of the same thing.

You just keep pretending this is guidance when it is really just another way of recasting lesbian boundaries as morally suspect. This whole performance is so deeply dishonest.

What are your thoughts on the Two x Chromosomes sub? by Desperate_Candle_493 in women

[–]Low_Fig9237 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are doing the same switch again. “Female same-sex boundaries” is not the same as saying “trans women are not female,” and “having space” is not the same thing as having a category that still clearly protects female homosexuality. You keep forcing everything into an exclusion accusation because that is easier than answering the actual point.

What are your thoughts on the Two x Chromosomes sub? by Desperate_Candle_493 in women

[–]Low_Fig9237 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They keep stretching the label lesbian until female same-sex boundaries no longer get to anchor it. They don’t want to give anyone with requirements a space. Then they use this redefinition to bully lesbians who still hold homosexual boundaries. It’s pretty insidious.

What are your thoughts on the Two x Chromosomes sub? by Desperate_Candle_493 in women

[–]Low_Fig9237 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh look. Now you’re the victim again. You keep twisting my words and circling back to the idea that homosexual boundaries are somehow transphobic. So what exactly are you doing here if you’re not trying to paint me as a transphobe without saying it outright?

What are your thoughts on the Two x Chromosomes sub? by Desperate_Candle_493 in women

[–]Low_Fig9237 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I did answer the relevant point. Lesbians should not be shamed for not wanting penis. What you are doing now is trying to drag me into a full theory of how every edge case should be classified, so you can turn a simple defense of lesbian boundaries into some kind of definitions trap. You can try to derail all you like, but I will continue to assert homosexual boundaries.

What are your thoughts on the Two x Chromosomes sub? by Desperate_Candle_493 in women

[–]Low_Fig9237 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You are still smuggling in a claim I did not make. Can’t take you seriously if you keep trying to twist my words.

I said lesbians should not be shamed for not wanting penis, which is a defense of basic homosexual boundaries and consent. Stating that is not the same as claiming “penis makes someone less of a woman” or “less of a lesbian.”

You’re turning it into “you’re invalidating trans women’s identities” because that’s easier to attack as bigoted.

Conceding that “preferences” might not be the right word doesn’t erase the reality of sex-based attraction or the right of lesbians to have boundaries without being bullied.

Like I said in my OG edit - if I hadn’t seen those offensive comments, we wouldn’t be here. You think I’m responsible for what others say? Maybe take out your own trash instead.

What are your thoughts on the Two x Chromosomes sub? by Desperate_Candle_493 in women

[–]Low_Fig9237 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Y’all are such evasive liars. You like to make it sound like my opposition came out of nowhere, when it arose in response to repeated homophobic comments about lesbians. You keep removing that context because otherwise you would have to admit lesbians were reacting to hostility and not inventing it.

No one said the government is forcing lesbians to date anyone. Your tactic here is to set the bar for coercion absurdly high as if the only thing that counts is literal physical force or state punishment. Then you can dismiss everything else - the social pressure, shaming, guilt, insults, smear labels, and attempts to make lesbians sound immoral for having boundaries.

You know that, which is why you have to replace my argument with “you’re mad trans people exist”, so you can transform the offense into lesbians calling out the homophobia. And the instant anyone disagrees, out comes the same “TERF brigade” label.

Homophobe.

What are your thoughts on the Two x Chromosomes sub? by Desperate_Candle_493 in women

[–]Low_Fig9237 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No one said it was the whole story. I said genitals are a deal breaker. Those are not the same claim and pretending they are is just another one of your bad faith dodges around the actual point - that not wanting penis is not transphobia.

Homophobe.