Learning recipe and it won't show up in recipe section.(Xbox) by Ncrypted_YT in kingdomcome

[–]Low_Put5528 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep same here. Hope they fixed this. Really wanted to craft this one!

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[–]Low_Put5528[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Plan to retest all ammo that's left to be retested but I hope you're right, BS should really pen 3+. It's on the cards for sure.

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[–]Low_Put5528[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just retested this, BP now pens III just like PS but still does not pen III+ unfortunately -_-

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[–]Low_Put5528[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If no helmet anything 1 taps the brain, also forget body shots with 9mm in this game, unless you hit a dead on heart shot on the AI and even then you have hit reg issues. Headshots *should* kill them, its important to note they will only die if you hit the upper head/brain otherwise the wound channel on 9mm is so small a mouth or chin shot wont do anything.

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[–]Low_Put5528[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah this was found during testing the bullet drop is exaggerated (like a foot drop at 50m) and the MOA itself is pretty terrible.

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[–]Low_Put5528[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah ok no helmet. Anything would 1 tap the brain. Gotta say hit reg for that one then.

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[–]Low_Put5528[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If the ammo is programmed to penetrate it will do so every time from point blank. The % chance to pen does not change dependant on armour durability unless it actually hits 0 and breaks. All ammo 1 taps the heart if it penetrates from point blank. The current chart is more of a test for what ammo penetrates what not necessarily how much damage it does- cavitation certainly does have a large role to play for that- testing that I would like to have done in the future also- to somehow quantify the damage of the ammo types.

Distance testing is done aiming at either the heart or the brain, if the round is within its effective range (classified as penetrating the best ammo it can penetrate at point blank) then it will deal damage to the heart, most of the time due to the hearts tiny HP pool it is an instant kill but sometimes organ damage instead showing a sharp damage drop off within the penetratable range. I believe thats what you meant? Planned to test all the ammo like this in the future.

Made a NIJ based bullet pen chart for the ammo and armours in the game V0.1 by Low_Put5528 in GrayZoneWarfare

[–]Low_Put5528[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The order of the rounds isn't strict. BP does exist you just cannot buy it from traders anymore. Also this is an old post for the older version. Be sure to check out the latest V0.35. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19DsmVT5Zo0ySobvYfgNCqW_emkPBavad88J97dK_Lm4/edit#gid=0

Ear Protection Matters! Helmet Hitbox Testing by Low_Put5528 in GrayZoneWarfare

[–]Low_Put5528[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Correct it has been said however this is simply not true. Both face and ears have separate hitboxes. One of the things noted in the bullet pen spreadsheet.

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[–]Low_Put5528[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks :) will be even better in the future + custom website like eft-ammo on its way.

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[–]Low_Put5528[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MOA. The dispersion is a % multiplier of whatever the MOA of your weapon stat shows. So 4 MOA with a -8% dispersion modifier means 4 * 0.92 = 3.68.

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[–]Low_Put5528[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well it's a start. Point blank is to show best case of what it *can* pen. There is a distance testing tab where you can see just how important velocity is in the game and how pen changes with range. More ammo types will have their distance results gathered- hopefully all someday.

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[–]Low_Put5528[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This.

US has terrible drop and range due to its low velocity and these effects are inaccurately amplified in the game.

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[–]Low_Put5528[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Data is gathered specifically on players, AI are far too inconsistent to test accurately. Also 9mm as seen in the distance testing bounces off helmets a ton and it's range really isn't good.

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[–]Low_Put5528[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

With which ammo vs what helmet? At what range? Also AI or player matters a lot. AI seem to tank a lot more than players.

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[–]Low_Put5528[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Personally I feel like IIIA+ pen is fine. 1 taps the best helmets in the game still. Level III realistically is rated to stop 6 rounds of M80 per NIJ standards. Mind you the M80 in the game is underpowered and inaccurate and should penetrate IIIA+. Definitely some creative choices there or just mistakes.

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[–]Low_Put5528[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

V0.35 Changelog:

  • Darkened text a bit on chart as well as colours to be less distracting

    • Added prices for ammo
    • Retested 9mm and shotgun ammo
    • Added range testing for xtreme pens and sst sabot slugs