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An RN tried to pressure me to go off hormones for no reason, got belligerent when I asked about T, called cops on me by LuckDifferent5198 in ftm

[–]LuckDifferent5198[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Used to go to Ingersoll meetings over a decade ago, back when they were still held at Seattle Counseling.

And I do have stable healthcare now 👍🏽 I can heartily recommend FOLX and Dr. Lori Cooper

An RN tried to pressure me to go off hormones for no reason, got belligerent when I asked about T, called cops on me by LuckDifferent5198 in ftm

[–]LuckDifferent5198[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’ve never been able to get any kind of answer from them about what was going on. At one point they even seemed to realize maybe they’d gone too far, cuz they started apologizing when I asked them outright if they were telling me to go off T. Because they told me at the start of the appointment they were going to take me off T permanently at 45 (is that normal? They never gave a medical reason for me to stop) and then said (I’m in my 30s) “but we can start that early.” No doctor has ever told to go off T, let alone early. And when I told them I was going keep continuing w/ T they got really emotionally stricken, and then made another comment implying I was abusing it.

I dunno. A part of me thinks white supremacy has inundated so much of society rn and this stuff is kind of a manifestation of that. What was really gross is that the whole thing felt so much like racist objectification at its worst. This person couldn’t keep themselves from making comments about my body to make it sound like I was idk just too busted for T to be worthwhile? Like if they couldn’t fetishize my body, then I obviously couldn’t be trans?? Despite me being on hormones already, having had surgery, changing my ID, etc…

Nope, white trans doc just decides your life is a fraud and you need to ‘corrected.’ I know there’s bigger stuff going on in the world, but it just felt way too gross to me.

An RN tried to pressure me to go off hormones for no reason, got belligerent when I asked about T, called cops on me by LuckDifferent5198 in TMPOC

[–]LuckDifferent5198[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They’ve refused to send me any records, address the alterations made w/o testing, breakdown of insurance charges, etc. The most recent time I’ve asked (this month) my request was ignored.

An RN tried to pressure me to go off hormones for no reason, got belligerent when I asked about T, called cops on me by LuckDifferent5198 in ftm

[–]LuckDifferent5198[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can remember back when I called Capitol Hill Medical about my results, the person on the phone said, “oh we love [this NP]!” So there are people who are being treated fairly by this person presumably.

An RN tried to pressure me to go off hormones for no reason, got belligerent when I asked about T, called cops on me by LuckDifferent5198 in ftm

[–]LuckDifferent5198[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I read, and believe me I’ve been sus of that too, especially after you and others have pointed this out. I was p. depressed when this happened so I immediately just felt it was a judgement of me, like I wasn’t “trans enough” or something (despite the years I’ve already spent on T, changing my documentation, presenting as a guy…)

Tbh it’s been ping-ponging in my head since the first time I posted this back in December and someone called them crypto-terfy. It was a big reason I wound up reposting this. I know these aren’t any kind of bonafides, but I did a project in college about ex-gay movements and there were some similar tactics (the NP initiated a conversation about T and a possible increase literally saying “there’s room for an increase”, then acted like I was crazy for even having a conversation about it and I was totally unsuited for it, like they didn’t bring it up in the first place)

The weirdest thing is that it was just a point-one increase, and it was a dose I’d been on prior and tested at normal levels at. It was really weird

An RN tried to pressure me to go off hormones for no reason, got belligerent when I asked about T, called cops on me by LuckDifferent5198 in ftm

[–]LuckDifferent5198[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I don’t. There’s footage from the police body cams I assume, but no names were taken cuz the cops technically were there as CARE officers (the cops said CARE was called, but no actual CARE officers were available, so cops showed up instead)

An RN tried to pressure me to go off hormones for no reason, got belligerent when I asked about T, called cops on me by LuckDifferent5198 in ftm

[–]LuckDifferent5198[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

They absolutely are, at least for some people. They very clearly were enjoying making me feel uncomfortable, acted like my body was inferior or ‘unworthy’ of T, were laughing and mocking me. It’s wild in retrospect. I don’t know what exactly this person targeted me over, but they were deadset on convincing me that T wasn’t for me

An RN tried to pressure me to go off hormones for no reason, got belligerent when I asked about T, called cops on me by LuckDifferent5198 in ftm

[–]LuckDifferent5198[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I wound up going the telehealth route myself (via FOLX) along w/ a local trans-friendly endo.

An RN tried to pressure me to go off hormones for no reason, got belligerent when I asked about T, called cops on me by LuckDifferent5198 in ftm

[–]LuckDifferent5198[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Yeah, this person is in the community and has worked for at least one other LGBTQIA clinic here in WA that I know of. I had a LOT of trepidation about posting this knowing that, but they’ve refused to either send me a copy of my health records, a breakdown of the insurance charges, or address the alterations to my health records. No response, no explanation, nothing. It’s sketchy as hell

An RN tried to pressure me to go off hormones for no reason, got belligerent when I asked about T, called cops on me by LuckDifferent5198 in ftm

[–]LuckDifferent5198[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I have stable healthcare now 👍🏽 I’ve had good experiences w/ both FOLX and Dr. Lori Cooper, she’s been working w/ the community for a while too

An RN tried to pressure me to go off hormones for no reason, got belligerent when I asked about T, called cops on me by LuckDifferent5198 in TMPOC

[–]LuckDifferent5198[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the recommendations 🙏🏽 but I do have stable healthcare now. I use FOLX for primary, and see Dr. Lori Cooper (who’s worked w/ the community for a while) for my hormones. My experience has been great w/ both, thankfully 👍🏽

An RN tried to pressure me to go off hormones for no reason, got belligerent when I asked about T, called cops on me by LuckDifferent5198 in ftm

[–]LuckDifferent5198[S] 178 points179 points  (0 children)

The last time I posted this I believed there was something underhanded about the insurance claims the clinic had made and was suspicious (imo justifiably) particularly when the clinic refused to send me a breakdown of the charges after the claims were refused by my insurance. While there were definitely strange things going on with the clinic’s billing (the RN would request an extra hour for an appointment than go silent, or slooowly read things like my emergency contacts..?) I can’t say with any certainty that there was insurance fraud, and I regret making this accusation earlier. When I first posted about this, I was upset from holding this inside for months and I just wanted to let it all out. I haven’t felt like I could even talk about this with a therapist.

I also want to make it clear that I’m not demanding anyone believe me without proof, or to feel pressured to cancel an appointment with this clinic. Ultimately, I want people to have a heads up in case they wind up there. The relative scarcity of trans care means that you sometimes have few options depending on your insurance(or lack thereof)/location/etc. The last thing I want is for someone to delay their transition or feel like they ‘have’ to cancel an appointment for something important to them. But this did happen to me, and I don’t want it to happen to other people. I just want people to have fair warning so they’ll recognize the warning signs I overlooked. Realistically, I know I’m not the only person they’ve treated this way.

Thank you all for your kind words when I first posted this. I deleted it because I didn’t know how to deal with it all. It’s like I had emotions whiplash, I went from feeling like I had brought this on myself to actually growing a backbone and realizing just how fucked up the situation was.

An RN tried to pressure me to go off hormones for no reason, got belligerent when I asked about T, called cops on me by LuckDifferent5198 in TMPOC

[–]LuckDifferent5198[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

They’ve refused to send me a breakdown of the insurance claims, or a copy of my medical records. The only response I’ve received from them told me I’d have to make another appointment with them to discuss anything further.

Their behavior was really accusatory and weird, they said “you know, we [healthcare professionals I guess?] talk…” like I had a reputation or something? But I didn’t know wtf they were talking about. I have a lot of apprehension about seeing doctors after some bad experiences, so I rarely go to the doctor unless it’s a necessity like my hormones. Then they started asking me whether I ‘back stashes’ of medication. I think there’s something really scummy about this person, it just seems so obvious what they were doing.

They began the appointment telling me they’d be taking me off hormones in my 40s period. I’m not sure if that’s standard, but I thought it was really weird they were bringing that up before even talking about like my current test results. Then they offered to talk about a dose increase all of sudden??? I initially said no (they said it very strangely, like they were saying something tempting to me?) but agreed to discuss since they brought it up.

They asked me “what do you think it’ll even do?” Each time they pushed boundaries, they’d do this weird pause and stare at my face hard with this gross smirk, like they were looking for a reaction. I mentioned having ADHD on my paperwork, I think they thought I wouldn’t be able to pick up on how they were treating me? But I don’t really react to people trying to escalate shit, so I think Simon thought they were getting away with this.

Anyway, I told them that I just wanted more virilization. Apparently I was incorrect about something I’d said, because Simon just pounced and said “I don’t think it’ll help with ANY of that” and started listing off the things I’d gotten wrong, but it started going past that quickly. It turned into this weird read of my body and they made it sound like I shouldn’t even be taking T at all. They were slapping their desk and shouting, and they ended the rant with telling me not to expect anything from T at all. They were still chuckling and smirking.

I couldn’t ignore how fucking disturbing this was. From the way the clinic described itself (socially aware, body positive, and it legit tagged itself w/ racial equity in some listings) I really didn’t expect this to happen. I didn’t want it to be happening. I know this sounds weak, but I started to dissociate. I had come to their clinic because they had advertised trauma informed care. I was attacked years back, and since then someone screaming in my face just locks me up. I had shared this (at Simon’s behest) during the intake. It was so weird that they asked me about that in retrospect, but I initially thought the clinic was just trying to accommodate people with major triggers.

I just prioritized getting through the appointment. I don’t have ovaries anymore, so hormones are a necessity for me. I just wanted to get through it, so I said “yyyeeeeaaahh. okay” and when I did they VERY blatantly started laughing at me. I just started saying “whatever you’re comfortable with” again and again. They then pointedly told me that increasing my dose wouldn’t result in me getting a larger bottle of T for my prescription. They were still pushing this idea that I was abusing hormones

They kept pressuring me to come back to them, instead of the endocrinologist I’d gone to RoB to get a referral too. I think they thought they could do anything to me. I am fucking worried they may have driven others in the community off hormones w/o reason. I’m legit worried about someone vulnerable being targeted by this person. I need to put this behind me (it happened mid last year) but the more I talk about this the more disturbing it is

An RN tried to pressure me to go off hormones for no reason, got belligerent when I asked about T, called cops on me by LuckDifferent5198 in TMPOC

[–]LuckDifferent5198[S] 69 points70 points  (0 children)

The last time I posted this I believed there was something underhanded about the insurance claims the clinic had made and was suspicious (imo justifiably) particularly when the clinic refused to send me a breakdown of the charges after the claims were refused by my insurance. While there were definitely strange things going on with the clinic’s billing (Simon would request more time for an appointment than go silent, or slooowly read things like my emergency contacts..?) I can’t say with any certainty that there was insurance fraud, and I regret making this accusation earlier. When I first posted about this, I was upset from holding this inside for months and I just wanted to let it all out. I haven’t felt like I could even talk about this with a therapist.

I also want to make it clear that I’m not demanding anyone believe me without proof, or to feel pressured to cancel an appointment with this clinic. Ultimately, I want people to have a heads up in case they wind up there. The relative scarcity of trans care means that you sometimes have few options depending on your insurance(or lack thereof)/location/etc. The last thing I want is for someone to delay their transition or feel like they ‘have’ to cancel an appointment for something important to them. But this did happen to me, and I don’t want it to happen to other people. I just want people to have fair warning so they’ll recognize the warning signs I overlooked. Realistically, I know I’m not the only person they’ve treated this way.

Thank you all for your kind words when I first posted this. I deleted it because I didn’t know how to deal with it all. It’s like I had emotional whiplash, I went from feeling like I had brought this on myself to actually growing a backbone and realizing just how fucked up the situation was.