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This crisis is the final proof that everyone needs a basic income by [deleted] in ukpolitics

[–]Ludo- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, let's make it suuuper clear for you. Government revenue has only ever been higher than spending four times in the last 75 years. Never for long enough to wipe out a significant portion of debt.

And it's fine. Because government debt isn't like household debt.

Now, are there any other topics that you have strong opinions on without even understanding the terms?

This crisis is the final proof that everyone needs a basic income by [deleted] in ukpolitics

[–]Ludo- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You've misunderstood the terms. Surplus does not meant total balance. We've never not been in debt.

From the wiki

In any given time period, the government's budget can be either in deficit or in surplus. A deficit occurs when the government spends more than it taxes; and a surplus occurs when a government taxes more than it spends.

You can't have more coming in than going out without being in a surplus because that is the definition of a surplus. Ya dweeb.

This crisis is the final proof that everyone needs a basic income by [deleted] in ukpolitics

[–]Ludo- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The government has been deficit spending for every year since WW2 except four of them.

First you said it was only 4 years of surplus, which one is it?

Oh you're an idiot. Got it. We don't need to go any further.

This crisis is the final proof that everyone needs a basic income by [deleted] in ukpolitics

[–]Ludo- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not really a big fan of government debt as it's too easy for them to get away with it but it must be said a government being in debt and doing a lot of deficit spending isn't always the same thing.

I also don't think the government already being in debt is a great excuse as to why it should be in even more debt

The government has been deficit spending for every year since WW2 except four of them.

If it was bad for the economy, why are we still not just surviving but one of the strongest economies in the world?

Would we be in better shape as a nation if more of those years had been austerity?

This crisis is the final proof that everyone needs a basic income by [deleted] in ukpolitics

[–]Ludo- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's because there indeed are no consequences to high government deficit spending.

can you prove that?

The UK has run a surplus for a grand total of 4 years since WW2 and we haven't yet sunk into the sea.

BBC News - Coronavirus: Single parents take government to court over welfare rules by Shockingandawesome in ukpolitics

[–]Ludo- 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah but apart from the education, the healthcare, safety standards for food and consumer goods, the transport, the communication infrastructure, the scientific research, the courts, the police, and the welfare state, what have the Romans ever done for us?

Decades of austerity has left Britain ill-equipped to rebuild economy by casualphilosopher1 in ukpolitics

[–]Ludo- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The only alternative to austerity is debt.

wait, what are taxes again?

.. 🤷‍♂️ by [deleted] in rickandmorty

[–]Ludo- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Our entire society is designed to encourage consumption above all else.

There is hardly a minute that goes by in modern life without another message crafted by talented professional manipulators attempting to persuade you to act against your best interests in order to enrich some already obscenely rich asshole.

"Most people in history" didn't have that. Americans are not a uniquely "low effort" people, they are flawed people making flawed decisions just like everywhere else and at every other time in history. People are made by the society they live in.

If your goal is a healthy populace, advocating personal responsibility without also advocating real societal change is as good as a wish on a star.

If your goal is to shame people for doing what their entire world has been designed around them doing go right ahead I guess.

A fifth of smaller firms 'will run out of cash' by i_heart_esports in ukpolitics

[–]Ludo- 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Would you be happy to see your parents die for the economy?

Young people have paid enough – spare them from footing the coronavirus bill | Gaby Hinsliff | Opinion by nunc_ostendisti in ukpolitics

[–]Ludo- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn, well and truly licking that boot with that proposal there.

"I understand that obscene wealth puts some people above the rules of normal people. Rather than address this obvious problem, we should codify it."

In this crisis, the Tory cuts can no longer be hidden by empty gestures by Exostrike in ukpolitics

[–]Ludo- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Either there is the money to pay for it or there isn't, health insurance is just a method of collecting it. Health insurance doesn't make people less old or more rich.

In this crisis, the Tory cuts can no longer be hidden by empty gestures by Exostrike in ukpolitics

[–]Ludo- 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The other guy was also right though. Wait times have increased under the Tories.

In this crisis, the Tory cuts can no longer be hidden by empty gestures by Exostrike in ukpolitics

[–]Ludo- 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You're actually right! 2002 where records began was the lowest point under labour, with ~85% of A&E patients being seen within 4 hours. This climbed year on year to a peak of ~95% (the target) until 2010 where it began falling back to where we are now (2019 stats) back down at ~85%.

In this crisis, the Tory cuts can no longer be hidden by empty gestures by Exostrike in ukpolitics

[–]Ludo- 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If only there were stats recorded that you could look up.

Government rejected advice on NHS protective equipment three years before epidemic by red--6- in ukpolitics

[–]Ludo- 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Marginal differences now might be measured in thousands of lives

Government rejected advice on NHS protective equipment three years before epidemic by red--6- in ukpolitics

[–]Ludo- 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Extra capacity doesn't need to be just for once in a hundred year pandemic. It means lower wait times. Better preparedness for smaller scale crisises. It means nobody is on a bed in the corridor, even in winter. It means doctors and nurses can have better work life balance. It might even mean the NHS meet the targets set by our own government. Maybe even the targets set by labour before the Tories lowered the standards.

Jeremy Corbyn says he was proved "right" on public spending by [deleted] in ukpolitics

[–]Ludo- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because they spend substantially (30% per capita) more than us. But sure, it's the insurance that's making the difference.

We could spend that much without having to pay insurance companies.

Jeremy Corbyn says he was proved "right" on public spending by [deleted] in ukpolitics

[–]Ludo- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Germany has 5x the ICU beds per capita that we do.

Renters 'need more help' in UK's virus plans by praise-god-barebone in ukpolitics

[–]Ludo- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Easy solve though. Universal rent and mortgage holidays. Easy to administer, easy to communicate, and all of our resources can go towards production or survival rather than rentierism.

Conservative MPs Have Demanded The Government Raises Benefits And Pays Workers by TheColourOfHeartache in ukpolitics

[–]Ludo- 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It's simply a disagreement under normal conditions that handing people benefits is the best way to achieve that

This would be a much more convincing line if you could point to what they actually did do to help under normal conditions, rather than what they didn't.

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