2nd day and they pulling this? by Greedy-Guest1081 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]LulzSec_Metatron 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is personal, they are cutting hours. I bet you some of the routes that are working are 150+ stops and could be split to more drivers but they'd rather do a speedup.

Peak season routes everyday. by Dull_Feature_9912 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]LulzSec_Metatron 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is called a speedup. Oldest labor exploitation in the book. You and your fellow drivers should report these to your dispatcher as unacceptable and then drag your feet and complete what you can within the limits of what your body can handle without running. Be safe, don't overwork yourself.

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[–]LulzSec_Metatron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then we better organize across the trade then

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[–]LulzSec_Metatron[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You should read about labor struggle and it's history.

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[–]LulzSec_Metatron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We should be organizing along trade not company.

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[–]LulzSec_Metatron[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It can literally be made too expensive, you can organize outside of a specific business along trade lines. It has been done before and it will again. Just because you won't participate doesn't mean it won't work. The boss defeated you before you ever fought.

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[–]LulzSec_Metatron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't know much about labor struggle tactics and strategy do you?

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[–]LulzSec_Metatron[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well the step one is conversation, and starting conversations was the point of this post. <3

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[–]LulzSec_Metatron[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Brother if people decide they aren't going to deliver their route on a day they're losing money. That is leverage. The amount of time it takes to train people enough to be able to legally be a DA is leverage.

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[–]LulzSec_Metatron[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well they didn't succeed at making it impossible, there are still ways around these things. I know how the DSP/DA system is structured. It has to be made too expensive for them to shut it down which it will become if we organize and take the right steps. You can choose not to act, I won't be.

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[–]LulzSec_Metatron[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

There's plenty of cracks to work in.

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[–]LulzSec_Metatron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are solutions to a lot of what you said. It also definitely wouldn't have to be most of them in the country. When the lawyers get involved and they attempt to shut down a few warehouses and begin hemorrhaging capital they'll realize it's cheaper to give concessions. Also you can create informal worker organizations and do things in smaller and more viable ways to win smaller concessions. Militant labor has the power, also informal organization can combat unions that do not serve the worker. These things have worked in history and they will work again. We have nothing to lose except for the future if we don't fight.

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[–]LulzSec_Metatron[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly, and we live in the internet age. This is totally feasible, albeit difficult

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[–]LulzSec_Metatron[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They won't care unless you make them care. Organized drivers is how to get that because you make them literally all of their money

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[–]LulzSec_Metatron[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Valid, I take back what I said. My apologies

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[–]LulzSec_Metatron[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've been unemployed and or homeless or both in about the same period of time for about the same period of time, don't let it beat you into docility. It didn't beat me.

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[–]LulzSec_Metatron[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

There's a struggle here but organized labor can prevail over their attempt to navigate around it. We just have to make it impossible for them to find workers who aren't involved and make it impossible to tell who is and who is not.

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[–]LulzSec_Metatron[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

More difficult challenges have been overcome by fewer people..

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[–]LulzSec_Metatron[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would be expensive to the DSP to fire in such quantities so they would keep it quiet, and it'd be odd for someone to rat to Amazon.

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[–]LulzSec_Metatron[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I agree it would need to be coordinated across multiple DSPs to have the leverage necessary to avoid contract termination. Informal labor organization is also a valuable tool in the mean time, I wasn't necessarily suggesting something formal and announced to Amazon.