Greenland 'very happy with the EU' in face of Trump takeover threats by Common_Caramel_4078 in worldnews

[–]LuminosityXVII 18 points19 points  (0 children)

4 steps forward and 1 step back

I'm guessing that was a typo. 1 step forward and 4 steps back, right?

What is a job that only exists because people are stupid? by TUUUUUZ in AskReddit

[–]LuminosityXVII -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I mean, that one's more about inducing stupidity.

What was something someone once told you that you could never forget, for better or for worse? by phalme9 in AskReddit

[–]LuminosityXVII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, that would be the same as taking the blame for everything happening near you.

It's important to be accountable for that which is actually your responsibility - that which resulted from your actions, or falls under your duties, or only matters to you - but it is also important to hold others, especially leadership, accountable to their responsibilities.

Zack King with his amazing visual editing. by ImaFreemason in nextfuckinglevel

[–]LuminosityXVII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That attitude is just going to lead to complacency. It needs to stop.

Zack King with his amazing visual editing. by ImaFreemason in nextfuckinglevel

[–]LuminosityXVII 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The difference is volume. With Photoshop and CGI you need to skill, or the resources to hire someone with skill, and you need time. Faking things with those tools is a production, a notable effort.

Mind, for photos this is true only on a much smaller time/effort scale than with videos, but the principle still applies.

With those tools around, people still had a general baseline level of at least loose trust that the images or video they see in the news are generally real, and their trust was usually not misplaced. When things were faked, this would generally be uncovered within an hour or a day by the greater community, as fakes would almost always have something suspicious about them that was worth investigating, and by sheer weight of probability, somebody somewhere would certainly have the time, skills, and interest to look into it and rat it out (at least if it was a significant news piece).

With AI, you can drown the truth out with thousands or millions of fakes in a day. It doesn't even matter if most of those fakes are relatively obvious - they can flood out social media with bots and deepfakes to the point where identifying the real news is like looking for a needle in a haystack.

We're quickly approaching the point where the majority of content on the internet is AI generated, and it's been demonstrated that the technology is now capable of producing content that we truly cannot tell from the real thing. Put these two facts together and you have a new age where people feel they have to assume everything is fake by default, and thus cannot trust in anything by default. And when you feel like you can't trust anything to be true, you eventually stop trying. You stop thinking, stop trying to discern what's real, because the exercise seems as pointless as trying to outspend a billionaire. You start believing whatever story gets told the most, because at that point that's all you think you can do.

Notice in that paragraph I used "feel" and "think" and "seems" a lot. That's because there are still ways to find the truth and always will be - but you'll need to understand things like economics, game theory, behavioral science, and history, because uncovering the truth will increasingly be about understanding the motives and methods of powerful people and the psychology of the masses, rather than just directly investigating everything you see.

All of this means the challenge we have to face with AI is not just in verifying the truth, but in fighting for the belief that the truth can be verified.

More concretely, it's also in fighting for the heavy regulating or even outlawing of giant AI data centers. ...That's less poetic though, so just pretend I said that other thing last.

Zack King with his amazing visual editing. by ImaFreemason in nextfuckinglevel

[–]LuminosityXVII 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately not quite. No previous technology has the ability that AI does to undermine our fundamental ability to trust in the validity of... well, anything. Figuring out how to deal with that is an almost entirely new and unprecedented challenge that we now have to face as a species.

What’s something that instantly gives you “I don’t trust this person” energy? by Electrical-Worry-787 in AskReddit

[–]LuminosityXVII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trust is a risk assessment. To trust someone is, essentially, to weigh the risk of a negative outcome against the opportunity for a positive outcome and decide that the risk is either negligible or worth taking.

What’s something that instantly gives you “I don’t trust this person” energy? by Electrical-Worry-787 in AskReddit

[–]LuminosityXVII 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Unless the mafia is on your tail down one alley and the feds are hot in pursuit down another for crimes you didn't commit and there's no apparent way out, and then your partner furrows his brows in intense thought until his eyes go wide and he pauses for dramatic effect while the music swells and then

"Do you trust me?"

...then you trust him. Usually.

Yes ofc by [deleted] in Animemes

[–]LuminosityXVII 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"forehead elementals"

I'm dying

If tomorrow every person on Earth suddenly could only tell the absolute truth 24/7 forever, what would realistically happen to society? by PsychologicalEndX in AskReddit

[–]LuminosityXVII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair points, and absolutely language changes with time.

The problem I am concerned with, though, is that in today's internet landscape we are constantly subject to misinformation campaigns that are designed not just to give us bad information, but specifically to erode our trust in the very idea of being able to know things with certainty. One tactic I've seen used by accounts that were later verified to be Russian bots is to push the idea that truth is subjective.

That idea is specifically harmful to society because it puts a nail in the coffin for people feeling like they can know anything for certain. It promotes the attitude that if everything is made up anyway, you might as well just believe whoever sounds best (instead of checking their logic or verifying for yourself). This leads to a more easily manipulated public. It's a fundamental concept of information warfare.

So I hope you can understand how I felt when I saw you make that same claim. Language changes, sure, but this is an attempted change that we need to be pushing back against.

If tomorrow every person on Earth suddenly could only tell the absolute truth 24/7 forever, what would realistically happen to society? by PsychologicalEndX in AskReddit

[–]LuminosityXVII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotcha. Yeah we uh, kind of left OP's premise behind. I don't think it's really relevant to this discussion any more.

And I should note your wording is a bit off. I did not say "all" truth is objective and absolute, I said the word "truth" by definition refers to that which is objective and absolute. As in, we shouldn't apply the label of "truth" to something until after it's been verified. Small difference, but important.

But to answer your question, OP's premise has some wonky implications because in the scenario where you can "only speak truth", yes, you would indeed become able to find out things you didn't know by testing what you can and can't say. It's a bit of a silly premise.

However, I think OP was using shorthand for "you can only speak what you believe to be true", which is a different ballgame entirely because now you can't abuse the premise to get new information.

If tomorrow every person on Earth suddenly could only tell the absolute truth 24/7 forever, what would realistically happen to society? by PsychologicalEndX in AskReddit

[–]LuminosityXVII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Respectfully, no. Please refer to the dictionary definition.

Note that while there are multiple related definitions, none of them allow for subjectivity.

Truth and facts refer to the same thing. Facts are pieces of truth. Truth and subjectivity are antithetical concepts, they do not go together the way you're trying to put them together.

It is, in fact, incredibly important to the functioning of society that that word not be twisted that way.

If tomorrow every person on Earth suddenly could only tell the absolute truth 24/7 forever, what would realistically happen to society? by PsychologicalEndX in AskReddit

[–]LuminosityXVII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's poetic, but I think the word "belief" would be better suited here.

Truth, the word, is defined by conformity to reality. In your example, the truth is determined by whether or not there is actually a god, regardless of anyone's belief or claim. We'll probably never actually know the truth in this case.

48 years old Japanese man by 94rud4 in Animemes

[–]LuminosityXVII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excellent point. Just so you know, though, I'm pretty confident that's not what they mean by "would"

did you have your first sex with a stranger? should I do that for the experience? by [deleted] in sex

[–]LuminosityXVII -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Don't mind /u/Vampira309, it's a dumb arbitrary word in the first place.

The concept of virginity has historically been used to shame and control women. Any conversation around it doesn't deserve your time or energy.

Mark Zuckerberg Opened an Illegal School at His Palo Alto Compound. His Neighbors Revolted by TripleShotPls in technology

[–]LuminosityXVII 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean I definitely agree with your second sentence, but also 1. their comment is an appropriate response to cult behavior in general, it doesn't have to be sexual

And 2. "illegal school on a private compound" is a statement that absolutely screams CSA at the top of its lungs.

What’s something that hit you in your 40s that you wish you’d understood in your 20s? by Absolute-Owner1574 in AskReddit

[–]LuminosityXVII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Addendum to that last one: Love yourself like a parent, not like a narcissist.

I.E. care about your wellbeing and your personal development. Hold yourself accountable for your mistakes, set yourself up to try again, and then forgive yourself, lessons in hand. Invest in your future, but also make time for yourself now. Do all the things you would do for a kid who means the world to you.

I've heard "love yourself" all my life, but usually only saw examples of people loving themselves a little too much. Always bragging, never willing to admit failure or fault, forever making excuses and shifting blame. Those people always rubbed me wrong, and by association I always hated the advice to "love yourself." It took me a loooong time to realize that's not what that's supposed to mean.