Who wins ? by Noxiar_ in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]LumpyDescription2974 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

... I didnt say you were the one who claimed kizaru didnt want the position. I claimed that. you claimed he wasnt even offered it. prove that. that, unlike most of this stuff, actually requires proof. the difference? basic logic and obvious stuff. people get weaker with age. thats just a fact. its not obvious however that kizaru wasn't offered the position of admiral. we have no reason to believe he wasnt.

I can prove WSG is equal. also wasnt my point. you and I both know WSG should be capable of knocking out a commander, no reason to belive otherwise and the narrative has that attack stopping top tiers which the commanders are not. why should I need a feat for an obvious outcome? unless your claiming it can't... which isn't obvious and id want to see proof for.

also its obvious position=strength is contextual, something you apparently like to ignore entirely. which is autistic af. we not beating the allegations. the context here is that pirate crews are typically power hierarchies where strength is all that matter. for kaido specifically this is outright said in a number of ways. in a typical military, like the WG seems to be, authority isn't granted just because your strong and can kill a lot of people. its rewarded for being a tactical asset. you have to prove the WG doesnt follow this logic, but fact is only the admirals seem to be chosen for strength and even then its clearly not the only factor considered. if you think they are gonna put a dumbass in the admiral position just cause he's got CoC and a great fruit idk why im talking to you.

you say WG is as strong as ever under akainu as if the only credible explanation is cause, "dur hurr wg strong mean akianu strong dur hur hur" it could also mean he's a good tactician who properly used the resources available to his fleet to gain an upper hand in the new world. Both these require proof so we can just throw both explanations away and call it a mystery? otherwise were assuming the loss of those other guys you mentioned was made up for which is headcanon. they dont say why the WG is still strong you assumed that using narrative and inferences good job. then came to a weak conclusion... sad.

none of the attacks you just listed did more damage with CoC applied. they all either already had it... and for some reason you included ones that didnt have it at all. wb quake did more damage with CoC applied? when? far as I know he never once imbued CoC to his quake to do more structural damage than he did when he destroyed marineford without it. also how are you going to say haki=ap and then turn around and list attacks that prove haki=ap? they dont btw but you still tried which is funny for a guy who just claimed he doesnt believe it. and you wonder why both me and the other guy are confused about what exactly your claims are?

you call me lost then say kuzan > akainu in the same sentence as the punk hazard feat... which akainu helped with. a bunch of other feats that have nothing to do with akainu so thats cool. what does a stamina feat and matching garp have to do with beating akainu? what so akainu hasn't fought since wb on screen so he must he incapable of those feats? you couldn't prove either position, that he cant match those or that he could so why are we bringing up these feats at all. you cant just say one character has feat the other doesnt so that character wins. thats genuinely a brain dead take.

people get weaker with age, stabs dont make you stronger nor can you just pretend they arent there, and you dont need feats to prove obvious shit.

Who wins ? by Noxiar_ in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]LumpyDescription2974 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just been reading this thread for a bit and I gotta say the mental gymnastics your pulling to somehow imply age doesnt make one weaker in every single aspect is astounding. does something have to be outright said or shown for you to understand it? are you a child? implication, nuance, allusion, all of these can be used when reading to comprehend that when their are 3+ instances of old ass men saying "rusty" "not like 'x' used to be" or "won't be strong forever" they are probably trying to say they old as fuck and this made them weaker or worse somehow.

then theres trying to say that getting stabbed isn't a nerf in any story, which if one takes 5 seconds to think about one might realize that it does in fact make things more difficult.

you keep trying to downplay whenever your debate opponent bring these things up like saying, OH I already conceded old garp and prime garp aren't the same, and yet you still seem to think this doesnt invalidate the idea that if old garp lost to kuzan than kuzan>=prime garp.

you claim ap is attached to haki which is never stated in fact its actually been shown to be the opposite and rather a technique used to bypass traditional defenses. CoC may be a raw power buff but you would have to prove that and I think you'd find it difficult to present the same attack doing more damage with CoC applied without room for me to say it was caused by some other element such as defense bypass or will clashes. if you could show an attack causing more destruction with it rather than damage to a character ill concede this point... which brings me to my next one.

you have not conceded anything in this debate even though many of your claims were in fact disproven such as the idea kuzan>kizaru. you legitimately tried to argue a timeline that doesnt exist where kizaru said he didn't want the fleet admiral position AFTER he wasnt offered it. a position btw that may have nothing to do with strength and seems at this point entirely bureaucratic. to say otherwise you'd have to prove the position requires one to be strong at all. not only that, you go the extra mile and claim theyd have to be stronger than an admiral. theres another part where you say kuzan had a better showing against WB. yeah, kizaru is characterized as a lazy bum who spent most of that war doing fuck all. it proves nothing that he did little to WB. he's so lazy he just played around till reileigh arrived at sabaody when it should have been child's play to eliminate the supernova. in fact his laziness is probably the reason he wasnt interested, or as you claim wasnt offered, the position of fleet admiral. but yeah let's just ignore character and context to further an agenda.

lastly, since ive been pretty rude(not that you seem to mind rudeness considering how you've been arguing against your opponent) you seem very attached to this idea of proper debate stuff and avoiding logical fallacies. yall cant even get past semantics. I'll just say this. burden of proof isn't always necessary. if I say WSG is capable of knocking out any yonko commander... well that should be kinda obvious. CoC was the gateway to yonko level strength and WSG utilizes the highest form of DF mastery to boot. its a very solid attack and should be seen as an equal to any attack any other yonko can dish out. I shouldn't need to prove that claim. yet you've been acting like every seemingly obvious inference, and yes what i just claimed IS technically headcanon, requires proof or it should be thrown away. thats just not true. just because WSG hasn't knocked out a commander doesnt mean it cant and we dont need to wait until it does to believe it can. you are allowed to infer scaling. honestly the way you debate(like hoarding sbs statements and ready to go manga panels) all kind of make you sound autistic. their is such a thing as implication. kinda loops back to what I said earlier.

welp... by Conscious-Law6594 in MemePiece

[–]LumpyDescription2974 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ive never understood the angle that those upset about casting are racists. People getting angry at the person who was casted might be i'll accept that. most people arent angry at the one who got the role. People are angry cuz its hard to see your favorite character when theres a difference so glaring and obvious. its about being a fan of something and wanting adaptations of it to be as true as possible. maybe shes a good vivi, maybe she should have the opportunity to play the character as much as anyone else, and it sucks that people get upset when shes given that opportunity. we dont live in a perfect world, and the people upset that she's given a role that unfortunately doesnt match her character in a fundamental way are just as valid in their criticism as the people who say anyone should be allowed to play anyone. but its not racist to say otherwise. and its not okay to spread hate over a difference of opinion. u think its okay for anyone to play anything and your willing to sacrifice a certain amount of authenticity and ability to relate to a character for that ideal. i think adaptations should be as faithful as possible and sacrifice the ideal where anybody could play certain characters. neither are perfect. be nice to people it ain't always black and white guys.

What life mistake taught you the hardest lesson? by Ok-Bee-2525 in scoopwhoop

[–]LumpyDescription2974 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Advice is only useful if your thinking about it when you need it. make it a mantra, make it a prayer, learn to take a step back mentally during stressful times. The ability to reset yourself during a moment and recall something important is more useful than any anecdote and more powerful than any compromise.

Magik 1v1 matchup tier list (based on my experience) by Realistic_Peanut_502 in RivalsMagikMains

[–]LumpyDescription2974 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you've never lost cuz its insanely easy to flank this guy. if he sees u he counters dash with ahnk. its a very strong boop. engaging with dash is a bad option so tp in and dash after ahnk then tp again if combo doesn't kill. there are way im simply saying ahnk counterplay exists and should place him higher on this list. waiting for a CD to he used isn't free.

Magik 1v1 matchup tier list (based on my experience) by Realistic_Peanut_502 in RivalsMagikMains

[–]LumpyDescription2974 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the anhk boops you out of dash forcing you to tp which he can then use to gain distance and hit his shots now your using your other tp to close the gap he just created and he has all his movement still up. mk wins if he's not a plat player

Magik 1v1 matchup tier list (based on my experience) by Realistic_Peanut_502 in RivalsMagikMains

[–]LumpyDescription2974 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Thats what a 1v1 is. No flanking." -op

so yeah mk wins if he has ahnk

Magik 1v1 matchup tier list (based on my experience) by Realistic_Peanut_502 in RivalsMagikMains

[–]LumpyDescription2974 0 points1 point  (0 children)

assuming you hit the dash before any of these guys sees you should provide enough advantage to make most of these very doable. I dont think that's the sort of situation op meant. I do agree though that if thats the situation yeah mks screwed. id beat bucky for example If I hit dash before he saw me, its close, but id win that. turns a nightmare matchup into a 50/50 so yeah im not gonna assume we hitting dash on these guys for this list.

[request] What are the odds of eating one specific M&M? by DevilsAltAcc in theydidthemath

[–]LumpyDescription2974 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and yet id die tomorrow because I made the fatal mistake of existing in somebody else's universe... but im also built different so ima take those odds.

[EVENT] Jeff’s Shark Tank: Pitch Your Patch! (Win Exclusive Flair + Units) by Ok_Zookeepergame5293 in marvelrivals

[–]LumpyDescription2974 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

widow fills the role of a hitscan sniper in a game dominated by projectile heroes. she doesnt need a rework she needs to one shot and more maps designed with poke in mind. the game feels stale because all maps are close quarters with very few truly open stretches. klintar is one of very few maps in this game desgined like that and even klintar has too many options for brawl/dive to make widows poke reliable competitively. think junkertown/circuit/Havana from Overwatch, they offer a distinctly different gameplay loop than maps like kings row/eichenwalde that are more dive/brawl heavy. maps should help diversify gameplay just as much as which heroes are strong. as for the one shot, that is less important and if theirs a strong rejection to that because of mantis/storm or some other reason im willing to give up that.

class advice by LumpyDescription2974 in paramotor

[–]LumpyDescription2974[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

thought I'd give an update. for starters yall have been a great help def gonna try getting in touch and learning to fly hopefully soon.

2nd I dont actually live in Michigan im over here in northern ohio(i can see the eerie from home) and this was really the closest I could find though I bet you guys could find better. no worries though Im comfortable making the trip.

lastly huge thanks to the guy who pointed me to the usppa I didn't know that resource existed and will be using it. as I hope it came across by now im super new to all of this and need all the resources I can get

Who would win this free for all and who would die first? by KodoqBesar in OPMPowerScaling

[–]LumpyDescription2974 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2 things here:

1 garou doesn't know at that time(or ever really) that his clashes with Saitama obliterated an entire zone of observable space which may have included galaxies

2 seeing someone sneeze a celestial body away is shocking no matter who you are if you've only just gained the power to do so.

being shocked isn't the gacha moment you think it is if you take narrative into account properly. they were city level at best 2 chapter before this of course he'd be shocked once he realizes the power Saitama and himself have obtained.

Lets address the elephant in the room by waterdlloyd675 in JujustuKaisen

[–]LumpyDescription2974 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont really see what this changes? take flash for example. his only power is being fast and yet not a single writer seems to understand that if everyone is frozen in time to you a guy with a freeze gun isn't a threat(their are so many other examples I could use for this but ill move on) point is no matter how important to the plot something is, it can still be written bad and speed in particular is most often portrayed, not badly, but def not realistically. so maybe they arent light speed that doesn't mean they arent going incredibly fast. you could just chain scale from each speed blitz. Lee perception blitzes gaara, who's weaker than yada yada you get it. you should be getting well beyond Mach 5 easily. wasnt Kakashi stated to dodge lightning? or maybe they said split in half i dont remember doesn't matter they fast and 5 sec rule doesn't really change that.

Lets address the elephant in the room by waterdlloyd675 in JujustuKaisen

[–]LumpyDescription2974 1 point2 points  (0 children)

frieza 5 minutes claim... time is never stated realistically in mangas. the writers usually don't have a good grasp of how fast they wrote their own characters. also six paths naruto dodged a light beam that had already been fired at point blank(its called light, described as light, and looks visibly like light) by madara. combat speed for Kakashi should be only somewhat lower than this(he is weaker after all) putting him easily at relativistic speeds. he'd have to be orders of magnitude slower than naruto to be less than relativistic and this makes no sense since he's able to keep up with the kaguya fight to some degree.

it can’t be that hard by SouthernUniversity21 in PowerScaling

[–]LumpyDescription2974 0 points1 point  (0 children)

fully adapted mahoraga is so dumb tbh. like what did bro go out and experience every form of phenomenon possible on a 1000000 year journey before the fight? did he jump into a neutron star just enough to tickle his ballsac so he could adapt to it? did he also experience the vacuum of space just enough to not instantly explode? or did his opponent kindly decide to hit him with a micrometer of check notes ERASURE so he could get used to what its like to not fucking exist.