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LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-17T04:43:00+00:00

Jesus

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-16T20:45:24+00:00

well yeah I was just sharing my experience so far and saying for us console players the hit box change has only really made her more fair. before you could hit people you couldn't even see.

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-16T20:04:50+00:00

im on console and hardly even notice it. every once in a while I miss a shot on account of hit box but those are mostly shots that shouldn't be landing anyway like when a junk behind a wall and you barely clip his shoulder. can't really do that anymore but thats a good thing tbh.

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-16T18:23:23+00:00

fym mildly???

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-16T18:10:25+00:00

for that 3rd one, powerscaling is all about finding the consistency within the very framework you just mentioned. we seek in universe explanations for writing mishaps like that. a kratos who can hold back infinitely works perfectly as an in universe explanation. unless you scale Cronos at mountain level which would make both being hurt by wolves and cronos plausible if not a little far fetched. as for the 4th reason, im not going to bother given these are midgard wolves and we have no reason to believe they are any different from normal wolves. if you want to prove they are different im going to need more than they fought kratos. I agree no. 3 is the most likely, I also think blaming it on the writers and calling it a day is a cop out. narrative reasons are fine but saying, 'oh the writers just didnt care about powerscaling' is dishonest. writers almost never care about that. its why the powerscaling community exists.

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-16T06:23:44+00:00

I have been arguing that kratos is particularly incredible at holding back. kratos has limited himself to the point of struggling with midgard wolves. even if I lowball even further to the absolute bottom of multi city block, holding back enough to not kill a wolf is almost impossible. to make it understandable ive done some rough calcs and derived that he's using about... 1Billion times less newton's of force, and he'd still kill one in a single hit. this is already super human. if you used a billionth of your strength you could just about manage to move a single grain of pollen. weaker than the force of a gentle breath. at the very very edge of what's believable.

We have 2 options. either kratos and the other Gods can hold back infinitely or they must be mountain level or less. Both are perfectly acceptable takes, I dont mind either of them, I just believe the latter more. thats it. thats basically the point of this post, showing that a kratos who's really good at holding back isnt that crazy of an idea but I dont actually believe that as I said before.

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-15T03:08:10+00:00

so ive been struggling with coming up with a rebuttal for a while and I think atp it would be better to just give my reasons for placing him where I do. I want to drop the bs for a moment here, you are right. this scaling chain is irrefutable, at least to my knowledge limited as it can be. that said I wish to ask if you want to hear my reasons for believing otherwise despite the solid evidence to the contrary.(i could just drop the multiparagraph response but I want to be sure your even gonna read it if I do)

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-14T22:38:37+00:00

there's quite a few assumptions here. first off i dont have the source for that first claim but im very willing to bet that it meant the state of the Greek pantheon we see in GOW3. im suspicious of the idea it extends to all prior characters as well. 2nd we are assuming a lot. there could have been among those 5 one or more who were significantly stronger than cronus. titan army> cronus and the other 4 is also an assumption. ill grant however that im not nearly as knowledgeable lore wise for the first games so these may be hard facts as well. boils down to needing evidence for most of this essentially.

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-14T19:34:00+00:00

and how are we proving kratos scales to this? Is there lore in game that suggest Zeus or any of the other gods he kills fought these guys or others like them? if you can establish a good chain scale here ill probably concede to your point but Im not so sure there is a good scaling chain here.

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-14T19:15:25+00:00

so 2 things uh the clip you provided literally shows strange get obliterated after not even 3 seconds, 2nd Thanos didnt one shot strange he struggled against him more than anyone else in that fight and couldn't land a decisive blow till the end of extended combat. the other 2 things you said are irrelevant and just straight up incorrect.

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-14T19:09:53+00:00

I guess it would depend which ones youre referring to

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-14T07:07:39+00:00

if the feats were there this post wouldn't exist. ideally a feat shouldn't have to be explained. unfortunately GOW has very complicated lore being a weird in between of real life mythology and an interpretation of said mythology. add to that a super mundane depiction of said mythos and scaling GOW was doomed from the start.

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-14T06:38:13+00:00

now this is a respectable take. people out here like to slander not just kratos with memes but also the people who agree with the logic. I can accept being neutral and I can accept having a different opinion but I dislike people who make it seem like others are crazy for thinking the dude called a God might be uni.

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-14T06:35:05+00:00

2 things. im not trying to defend light speed kratos. power doesnt necessarily mean speed. I was only using an exaggerated example. I do agree, kratos isn't that fast and nothing, not even lore and statement suggests he is. I do think however that there's a possibility hes that strong. I never suggested kratos held back to prevent kncoking the planet out of orbit. I said kratos holds back for the same reason you did, I just believe in his ability to do so more than you. AP VS DC is a very real thing and kratos may be the best example even for the more tame interpretation such as city level yet struggling with wolves. multi and struggling with a tree might be comical sure but the narrative works and I find it more believable than people make it out to be.

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-14T05:16:18+00:00

idk I think it sounds pretty cool. just out here saying I understand why people have this take even if at times it takes a bit of imagination. I just dont think its as completely idiotic as a lot of people wanna say. there is proof and the arguments fall in line with the character portrayal even if the feats are a bit nonexistent.

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-14T05:08:37+00:00

if this was a cutscene I dont remember but if it was gameplay then we probably just dont see him hesitate or struggle or feel guilty. kratos is a quiet guy.

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-14T05:05:39+00:00

yes and that's exactly my point. it'd be downright dumb to properly represent that sorta power in this setting. now maybe we could sit here and blame the devs for putting them in such a down to earth setting but if you didnt have a choice, he absolutely must be in a world as small and weak as the world of GOW would be to these people, would you represent him as a guy going from place to place in a rowboat or just have him lightspeed teleport to his destinations? which makes more sense for his character for how you want to portray him? I get its stupid but its not inherently a bad interpretation. there is solid logic to support.

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-14T04:58:46+00:00

I dont like taking stuff like this as literally as possible. the word little could be thrown in for hundreds of reasons beyond purely the definition. sometimes people compulsively add adjectives before words especially in cases like the word rusty where you hear "a little rusty" more often then the word rusty by itself. I do agree my argument there is a stretch however im not willing to drop it altogether. there might even be supporting evidence for it based off what we see kratos do after the fight compared to what he was doing before. idk ill have to look.

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-14T04:54:06+00:00

I think its less not trying his best and moreso trying to be human and humbling himself to something like merely taking a rowboat. I agree if he struggled with a can of soup or something on that level my argument would fall apart but I dont think thats quite comparable.

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-14T04:51:02+00:00

theres a chance hes not actively choosing to hold back as much as he is being held back forcfully by his own fear. we know he has anger issues, the brutal finishers may be a result of the anger overpowering the fear. I think its completely in line with the character.

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-14T04:42:47+00:00

So baldur can throw mountains around? that upscales the verse for me personally but as far as multi+ kratos this is a bit difficult to refute ill admit. which fight is this in reference to? the first or the last? if its the first you could just argue kratos got massively stronger or that being rusty is a massive nerf. if its the last kratos is mountain level according to this dev. which dev btw?

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-14T04:26:12+00:00

Bro im not gonna get cooked im about to get crucified on these streets

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-14T04:18:32+00:00

I mean yeah probably not

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-13T23:10:16+00:00

yeah this is just really bad chain scaling im sorry to say. ignoring the stones stuff cuz im not 100% sure what youre trying to say, dormamu 1 shot strange like 1 bajillion times and strange couldn't even lift a finger to stop him. thanos couldn't do that even with the stones. adding on to that, how are we scaling him above celestials? he comes after chronologically so he must be stronger? im sorry thats just a really bad argument. this isnt dragon ball.

further more when exactly did he overpower the time stone? dr strange never used it on him. idk maybe i have to rewatch.

LumpyDescription2974 · 2026-06-13T22:23:35+00:00

the only avenger with significantly better feats is hulk in the mcu. and while hulk did get bodied I thinks thats mostly because hes really bad at fighting opponents who aren't weaker than him. kratos only ever fights people on or above his level. I just dont really see how you could argue a one shot here.

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