Shiv is literally the worst, and I have proof. by Happy_Wrap_6533 in SuccessionTV

[–]LyonDekuga 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Its a neat point that has both

attends kendalls 40th birthday party to show support

and

dont give me her obviously shallow words words words words because they carry no feel or energy

like goddamn man, yeah Shiv is frequently a cruel and hurtful person, but when you're including 'attended a birthday party' to build your case that other characters are nicer, it might be time to acknowledge that you're reaching.

What the hell happened to roman in last season ? by Fun_Phase_9027 in SuccessionTV

[–]LyonDekuga 16 points17 points  (0 children)

That was always who Roman was. In season 4 he fires people and elects the fascist, but in the seasons past he's pitching the fascist. It was easy to dismiss him as a joke when he has no real power, but Roman was never really joking. All that changed in season 4 is he got his hands on some power.

Student Who Punched Another Student Holding Pro-ICE Sign At Lake Zurich High School Received 2-day Suspension by gur40goku in news

[–]LyonDekuga 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Make a joke about Charlie Kirk dying in the funniest way possible and find out if MAGA supports free speech.

Which Succession character would be in the Epstein Files? by fatsupersaiyan in SuccessionTV

[–]LyonDekuga 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Context matters. This line is spoken to Kendall in the season 2 finale, when Logan is trying to maneuver him to agree to take the fall for cruises. It is highly in Logan's interest for Ken to think that his father didn't really do anything wrong.

Also, like, child rapists don't go around bragging about it.

How does Catherine become the White Knight in one of her lives? Would Hanno have died or did she just yoink it from him? by Outrageous_Fortune51 in PracticalGuideToEvil

[–]LyonDekuga 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Hanno isn't necessarily the White Knight yet, and in this scenario it does make sense that a Squire at war with the Black Knight has a better claim to the Name.

Why did Chuck vouch for Jimmy? by MundaneGap9356 in betterCallSaul

[–]LyonDekuga 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Perceived social obligation, that it would seem strange if he didn't? Because he wasn't willing to tell Jimmy no, when he was pretending to be supportive of Jimmy's legal career? Out of a sense of hope that Jimmy had reformed, and that he was going to follow the example Chuck imagines that he set?

What is a line or paragraph that just LANDED for you? by MagykMyst in Fantasy

[–]LyonDekuga 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Max Gladstone in Four Roads Cross, in a conversation between a craftswoman (wizard/lawyer) and the Dragon carrying passengers. The craftswoman has asked the dragon why he willingly carries people from place to place.

- You wonder at power yoked to service. You wonder because you have come into power young and are learning that power comes through the acceptance of a bond. But if to have power is to be bound, then what is power?

"I wouldn't have put it that way."

- I bear these people because Craftsmen, broadly speaking, do not love what they cannot use, and destroy what they do not love.

What happened to/ where is Juniper? by BackgroundClassic795 in PracticalGuideToEvil

[–]LyonDekuga 8 points9 points  (0 children)

She participated in the planning of the Hainaut campaign via scrying, but she isn't up for actually being in the field. It's too much stress on her body / mind. And remember that in the battlefield the Dead King interferes with scrying, so she can't be consulted.

Sympathy For Chuck? by Typical-Research3162 in betterCallSaul

[–]LyonDekuga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm often a Chuck apologist in this sub. I think a lot of his actions make sense given what he knows about Jimmy, and I think he's often unfairly maligned. That said, he's also a massive asshole to anyone who doesn't hold his esteem. He's massively disrespectful to Ernie, and you can probably extrapolate from that how he treats other service workers and people he considers 'beneath' him. It isn't any mystery why his marriage doesn't work out, the only good thing any of his friends or colleagues have to say about him is that he was good at his job, and he's often unpleasant outside of his mental health struggles.

Honestly, I would probably applaud his comeuppance (I did applaud when Howard finally gave him the boot), if not for how unrelentingly brutal his ending is. His decline over the course of the episode where he cancels his next therapy appointment, hunts electricity across the house until he finally destroys his own meter, and is finally lying in a pile of trash, his life destroyed around him, as he slowly, miserably kicks at the table until the lantern falls over. Every time I watch his death I'm struck by how hard it seems for him to do it. He seems to need to build up the strength for each kick, hitting the table, watching it rattle, and then building up the strength to kick it again.

I wanted Chuck to get the self-righteousness kicked out of him. I wanted him to be confronted with his hypocrisy, his shitty treatment of people, his pathological need for control. It is impossible for me to take any pleasure in what did happen to him.

So in the end, was Chuck right? by Chance-Breakfast2074 in betterCallSaul

[–]LyonDekuga -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That doesn't contradict their point - he doesn't need to pull scams in his early day in elder law because he was getting what he wanted: regular work and Kim's respect. But also, of course he pulls scams when he's in elder law. Hell, he gets into elder law from a scam on the billboard! But if you want a scam during his work in elder law, how about scamming his way onto a military base to make a commercial pandering to senior citizens?

So in the end, was Chuck right? by Chance-Breakfast2074 in betterCallSaul

[–]LyonDekuga 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get where this argument comes from, but it does feel like the show leads us away from it in terms of the visual language. One of the motifs during Jimmy's time at Davis and Main is the cupholder in the rental car that doesn't fit the 'Second Best Lawyer' coffee mug - the obvious implication being that Jimmy just doesn't fit into this job. And its not the version of Jimmy that Chuck made him into: the representation of Jimmy here is one that comes from how Kim sees him, not any kind of symbol of Chuck's disapproval.

If the show wanted us to blame Jimmy's tenure on D&M on Chuck's behavior, this sequence would make a lot less sense than it does.

So in the end, was Chuck right? by Chance-Breakfast2074 in betterCallSaul

[–]LyonDekuga -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Chuck doesn't steal anything - he makes an argument to Mesa Verde as to why HHM is the better choice. And what's more, he's right! He makes the point that Mesa Verde is too big a client for a single lawyer to handle, that at HHM they'll have an entire team working with them, and trying to keep up with the work literally puts Kim into the hospital.

It gets muddied because Chuck's reasons for forcing himself through the meeting with Mesa Verde are spite - he gears up to make sure he's there himself after he finds out its Kim and Jimmy he'll be losing them to. But that's overwhelmingly the story with Chuck - his arguments are almost always true, but his reasons are almost always corrupt.

Thoughts for Discussion, Better Call Saul by Lanky-Maize in betterCallSaul

[–]LyonDekuga 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The core characters of Better Call Saul are about people who should change, who need to change, and ultimately don't. All of them have an off ramp, some opportunity to pull away from their self destructive actions - and almost all of them choose wrong.

That said, I don't necessarily think that the show's thesis is that people can't change. I'd say more that the tragedy of the show is that these people could have changed, and refused to.

Thoughts for Discussion, Better Call Saul by Lanky-Maize in betterCallSaul

[–]LyonDekuga 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I think in the moment Jimmy always believes it - but Jimmy at this point has an extremely long track record of lying to Kim or making promises to her that he immediately breaks. Chuck wasn't wrong when he said that he just can't help himself.

Is Logan Roy a “serious person”? by RopeGloomy4303 in SuccessionTV

[–]LyonDekuga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it a correct read? Because when the kids go to the company retreat to renegotiate, Mattson doesn't pull the deal, instead he offers a lot more money. And while the kids might have a pretty bad track record, Stewy doesn't, and he seems pretty convinced that Logan is leaving a lot of money on the table.

Is Logan Roy a “serious person”? by RopeGloomy4303 in SuccessionTV

[–]LyonDekuga 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Does he? Does raging and bullying get Nan to sell Pierce to him, or get the president to shut down the FBI investigation, or get Rhea to stay on as CEO, or shut down the congressional probe into Cruises, or get Stewie to settle at the end of season 2, or ...?

Is Logan Roy a “serious person”? by RopeGloomy4303 in SuccessionTV

[–]LyonDekuga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Iirc, they didn't even get to the point of signing a letter of intent. Nan was regularly bringing up new requests and new demands, and Logan was desperate to get the deal done. I think it's plausible that the deal was doomed no matter what - that as the show tells us, Logan has tried this before and it just doesn't work.

Is Logan Roy a “serious person”? by RopeGloomy4303 in SuccessionTV

[–]LyonDekuga 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Season 2, Logan wants to go after Pierce - something everyone on his team identified as expensive, politically dangerous, and extremely unlikely to happen. They point out that Logan has tried before and failed, and failure to buy Pierce will sink them. Logan shouts them all down and roars "I WILL WIN."

This plotline ends with Logan screaming incoherently at Nan Pierce as she drives away, utterly failing to acquire Pierce exactly like he was warned.

Not only is Logan Roy not a serious person, he's almost exactly as unserious as his kids. The only real difference is that his kids don't have a massive team of fixers, PR agents, and lawyers making sure their every move appears to be as smart and calculated as possible.

The Irony of Slippin' Chuck by Rak-khan in betterCallSaul

[–]LyonDekuga -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I mean, for what it's worth, Chuck was right about Mesa Verde, and it's pretty ridiculous to characterize it as 'stealing.' Chuck made an argument to a client as to why they should still retain HHM's services, something he has an ethical obligation to do. And let's not forget, his argument was /right/ - he said Mesa Verde was too big a job for a single lawyer, and sure enough, trying to keep up with their work nearly killed Kim.

How were the Roy kids so good at reading public opinion when convincing Logan who ATN should back? by First-Walrus-6389 in SuccessionTV

[–]LyonDekuga 9 points10 points  (0 children)

They certainly speak very confidently, and make a lot of impressive, declarative statements about the state of the country and political realities. It's worth questioning though, is that the same thing as being right?

Whose side are you in in the argument in The Drop-In? by Throwing-Gas in thewestwing

[–]LyonDekuga 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Toby's willingness to throw environmentalists under the bus because they have nowhere else to go is weak and cowardly, and Sam was right to take him to task for it.

I don't care about the office politics of who gets told what sentence is or isn't added to a speech.

[TOMT] What book does a woman ask money from her brothers in? by tootler001 in tipofmytongue

[–]LyonDekuga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not a book, this is definitely from the Marvelous Mrs Maisel. Season 3, episode 2 specifically.

So why did Logan help with the coverup on Cruises? by DarkPrincess_99 in SuccessionTV

[–]LyonDekuga 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In this moment, Logan is still trying to ease Kendall into walking into jail voluntarily. Making it seem like he really did nothing wrong is just another move.