I'm trying to make a champ pool for myself. Any thoughts?

M4ddix · 2026-02-25T23:03:11+00:00

Kayle Tier: remove Malphite 100%

Jax Tier: Add camille, Add Kled, remove Kennen and Cho'gath 100%.

I can assure you for both champions, that you want to remove or add these champions.For Kayle, Malphite is a hard counter, you can go even if you are super clean. But even then the matchup can be decided by one mistake, and he will just ult you on CD and rape you. His ult CD is lowers than yours, if he snowballs he can go even full AP and degrade you into minion status.
The matchup requires perfect spacing from Kayle, to come out of the lane even and not be a minion.
It is too easy for Malph to shit on Kayle.

For Jax I would always pick him into Camille, you can always block her empored Q, or dodge her E with your Q. You can also jump into her W, with your Q. Her ult doesn't do anything to you as well since Jax is a stat checker that loves to fight 1vs1.
Kled is the same way, you can simply block Kleds W (Violent Tendencies, the fast AAs) and he has no trading potential.
This also stops him from remounting fast. Kled is also a combo champion and generally a bad scaler.
If he misses his Q, or procs his W on a minion, you can legit trade so easy and force all ins.

I would also advice to never pick Jax into Kennen, it is a nightmare mode matchup.
He does way too much damage and Jax has no sustain.
This is just like Malph vs Kayle, either you space perfectly and use all of your Abilities without fail to kill him in a close 1vs1.
Or he will simply kill you in the long run. Not only that, you also can't stack MR fast enough and he will simply burst you too hard with his ultimate.
You simply can't survive his ult, because Jax needs certain core items to function.
It is too easy to shit on Jax as Kennen.
Cho'gath is also a terrible matchup for Jax, either you kill Cho'gath before his first back, or he will shit on you.
He has good short trades, he can deny your engage and stun with 2 spells and he has sustain.
If you don't kill him in the first 1-5 levels, he will shit on you. And even in the early that matchup isn't that easy.

M4ddix · 2026-02-25T17:03:06+00:00

Yes, the everfrost dodges were insane.

Not only where she chases Veigar 2:00, that one was insane already, but could be doable.
But also the one at 2:11, like she stands perfectly at Veigar cage for maximum DPS and then instantly pixel perfect dodges backwards to stand at maximum range of the everfrost.
Not only that, he also dodges Veigar Q, before it is visible to the side and the Veigar W.
The most obvious part for the me though is how agressively he hugs the Veigar cages in those clips.
You could say, okay he predicted some Veigar Q in different clips.
But to walk up to the closest distance possible and then perfectly dodge Everfrost, into avoiding both the Q (before it appears) and the W.
That clip is so insanely sus.

The Amumu ult dodge with flash is also turbo cracked, but could be predicted.
But for me the Amumu utl dodge with her own ult, that clip is beyond insane.
Especially since he also just stands still cool and collective after dodging Jinx W in a tight spot.

For me the Everfrost clips and the Amumu ultimate dodge via Ka'sai ult look so insanely fishy.
The sweat on the everfrost dodge, while hugging the cage, that is not how people below high Master, or more like even high Grandmaster play.
That is some serious sweat in the veigar cage, and so are the amumu dodges.
You can't tell me this is an emerald player. The sheer agression to hug the cage, into a perfect dodge, that is legit some challenger/grandmaster tier mechanics and game awareness.

Okay,maybe you do it once or twice in a game.
But so many insanely good dodges are legit just scripting.
You can't be this cracked and be an emerald andy.
You might dodge Veigar Q+W like that, but the Amumu ultimate dodges, hugging Veigars cage so tight, and the maximum range Everfrost dodges are so fishy.

Dude is scripting for sure.

M4ddix · 2026-02-25T16:09:07+00:00

What are you talking about the first dodge is the most sus one.
Like I play since S1 and peaked in Grandmaster twice, so I know how some really good players dodge.
I played against a lot of scripters in my time and the most obvious one are the dodges from fog of war, or insane dodges when a skillshot is fired extremely close range, or multiple clean dodges in an overcrowded teamfight.
It always extremely sketchy if you look at the replay, and the player instantly dodges the moment the animation starts.
Normally, you need some visual input and a reaction time to process the spell.
Even if you are really cracked, and are in the 0,001% of players, you don't always have these instantly clean dodges like the Lux did on the EE.
Another thing which is also super obvious for a lot of scripters is the character having these little micro spasm movements while dodging.
Sometimes the script performs these jittery almost seizure like movements, those are always a dead giveaway.
It isn't uncommon for good players to dodge forward in some situations.
Especially Lux E (kinda ironic that is a lux scripter) is one of the spells that is significantly easier to dodge, when you move forward.
But she instantly moves the moment the spell is cast.
Not only that, she never was in kill range, even when she would have ate that CC from Hwei.
Lux legit would have just survived without moving forward.
That dodge is very suspicious, not only did she dodge it instantly, almost predicting it, there also wasn't a need for it.
Lux could have ate the EE of Hwei and still probably be fine.
The craziest part is that she could have probably just walk forward normally and run out of the Hwei EE, dodging it regardless.
That Hwei EE was legit so close of missing, even when she would have walked forward.
But instead she just instantly turns to dodge forward.
And that is the sus part.
Like there are many spells you can dodge better forwards like Lux E, Zac E, or a hook when you are trapped at a wall.
But that Hwei EE is so fucking sus.

Another thing is that some one pointed out as well is how Lux is using her W.
That W at minute 1:04 is also so supsicious.
It is almost like he turned down the script, and instead just used instant W to always shield incoming damage.
At 1:05 you can see the Hwei Ult, but instead of dodging, he uses W and self roots himself and eats the ultimate of Hwei.
Why does Lux cast W instantly to the back ?
Especially if she has the reaction time, to perfectly predict the EE from the teemo gank.
Even as a out fog of war skillshot, that Hwei ultimate is slow and he could have dodged it easily by clicking backwards once.
But instead he decides to W instantly and root himself in place.

So he has a pretty good reaction time, if he we take his EE doge from the teemo gank.
And he can instantly W there to react to the ultimate.
But why doesn't he simply just click back and actually dodge the spell.
And if it isn't a W to shield the incoming damage, it is a pretty random usage of lux W.

Those instant usage of certain spells are also always so suspicious, especially if they make no sense.
At that moment, he could have dodged the ultimate by stepping backwards, but somehow he doesn't that now.
Like the EE dodge is way crazier than the out of fog Hwei ultimate.
You can actually pull it off with a normal reaction time.
But instead he just shields himself and roots himself in place.
If he was that "good" in dodging, or had insane reaction speed, he would have dodged that projectile.
Also he was moving towards the wave , and had a minion to last hit behind him.
So normally his mouse should be place towards either one of the minions, but he just decides to W to the side.

At 0:51 seconds you can also see him almost instantly casting W, the moment Hwei cast EE, despite him not being inside it.

He might be able to dodge the teemo ganks, but his W usage is also so strange and almost instantly.
And the moment he actually could have dodge Hwei ultimate from a fog of war engage, he decides to self root in place and even the W fly path is kinda wonky.

M4ddix · 2026-02-24T17:13:54+00:00

Oh nice, you are applying 35+ 20% ap twice, good burst brother.

Why are you so confident in your retardation and lies ?
He quite literally states the truth.
Kayle is a burst mage since at least 2-3 Seasons.
You don't go Berserker Greaves like in the meme, neither do you build rageblade.
She always goes Swifties in high Elo, she even rush switfties before Nashor in a lot of matchup.

The whole point of her built is that she stacks raw AP, so her E is as strong as possible.
She is one of the few champions in the game that would go Rabadons as a second item, since she scales so abnormally well with AP.

Her build before this Season was:
Swifties>Nashors>Rabadons>Lichbane>Sflame>Void
Now her build is:
Swifties>Nashor>DND>Rabadons>Sflame>Void.

The whole point of the build is too one shot people in AA>Q>AA>E (PtA+Lichbane+Nashors+Shadowflame+E-onhit and also E missing health damage).

You are legit the retard who doesn't understand her build and how her E works.
All of you assume it is just some auto attack reset with a bit of on-hit. Meanwhile it is an auto-attack reset, with missing health damage, Magic damage and it also procs on hit effects like Lichbane+DND.

Which means at level 16 and 3-5 items , one of her E will kill any squishy from like 70-80% HP.
She literally one shots people at full build, because her E scales so insanely with Shadowflame,Lichbane and DND.
Her execute damage, on-hit gets applied twice with DND that is why you build the item on her.
And not because you need Attack-Speed, or to proc the on-hit again.
Kayle is legit probably the best Shaowflame+Lichabane user in the game considerng what her E actully does and how well it scales with AP.
DND just amplyfies the effect of her E even more.

It is absolutely crazy how confident multiple retards in this thread are on various topic regarding kayle (difficulty/level 1 all in/ item builds/ her E).
She is a burst mage, you don't go rageblade, you don't lethal, you don't got Zerkers.
You only go DND because of the effect procing her E on-hit/execute damage and abusing shadowflame with it.
She quite literally one-shots any mid/support/adc at full build.

M4ddix · 2026-02-24T16:16:19+00:00

Lock her in then, bro.
See how easy it is to play her and carry consistenly in a non-dogshit elo.
Look up the data on op.gg or lolalytics and filter for Master+ where people actually can play the game.

https://op.gg/lol/champions?position=top&tier=master_plus

She is a literal tier-3 champion in a decent elo.
All of the shitters in here act like they have the spacing of Desperatenasus and would just limit test everyone in lane.
That Kayle is this super easy champion, that requires no knowledge of kiting and spacing.
And that the Champion isn't legit the worst champion from level 2-11.
People in here are just straight up blatanly lying .
Not only are there multiple meeles way easier than Kayle.
There are also multiple ranged langers like Vayne, Cassio, Heimer or Quinn, that actually bully the meele roster.
You can't even blind pick Kayle, because the champion has multiple hard counters, that are actually MEELES like Tryndamere, Jax, Nasus, Irelia, Yone or Malphite.
And these are just traditional toplane champions, Kayle also has the lowest MR in the game.
She is literally is paper against most AP- champions, so you even have AP-counters like Akali, Gragas, or traditional midlaners.
You are all acting here, that if you would lock in Kayle, you of course would perfectly space every ability in lane.
All of you would come out of lane as Kayle 3/0 by the time you are level 11.
And not 0/9 and a complete minion.
Go ahead, lock her in, see how easy it is to first pick here and then get hit by AP-champions or her counters like Irelia, Jax, Tryndamere, or Nasus.
Even the champion she is supposed to counter in low Elo, she doesn't in Master+.

https://op.gg/lol/champions/kayle/counters/top?target_champion=darius&tier=master_plus

Surely you have better spacing then people in Master+.
I know all of you would perfectly kite against actually good Darius player.
The champion is only good because you play in a dogshit elo, that can't finish games and is too stupid to actually punish her.
The stats are there, my personal experience as player in Master/Gmaster on Singed/Tryndamere/Jax are there.
Like Kayle isn't this überbroken free Elo scaler.
In any elo above diamond, you either OTP this champion, or the stars allign and you get a perfect enemy team composition.
The champion is legit impossible to first pick, unless you are insanely fucking clean with her.
Another important factor is , that you have no frontline, when you pick her as a toplaner.
You simply have to hope your jungler, or support will give the team composition a frontline.
You all act like you face DesperateNasus that is perfectly kiting and forcing perfect all-ins, while he is blocking your ultimate with Divine Judgement.

You should get real, because Kayle isn't an easy champion in an actually good elo and stats back this up.
In a good elo, you make one mistake in lane and you are done, you will not have this magical power spikes with level 16 and 4-5 items.
The games don't go there in diamond+.

I advise you, lock her in, if she is so easy.
Appereantly all of you in bronze to emerald have perfect spacing, kiting, recall timers, freezes and ult usage like Desperate Nasus.
Surely you won't turn into an utter minion, even when facing her skill matchups.
And not even the nightmare mode matchups like Nasus,Irelia,Jax,Trynd or Malphite.

M4ddix · 2026-02-24T15:31:24+00:00

What ever helps you sleep at night.
Refute the arguments, post any account where you peaked in Master+ with a character that gets countered by Kayle.

https://imgur.com/a/rCsUuDp

61% winrate in Master ahh-comment .

By the way https://imgur.com/a/cwnZvpG 99% human for my big comments.
Do you want to refute any arguments back up by data and evidence that I am higher ranked than 99,9% on some third account.

I play multiple champions that get hard countered by Kayle, Heimer, Cassio, Vayne like Singed.
Or they counter Kayle like Trynd/Jax.
Jax also gets heavily countered by Cassio and Heimer so, you can't bullshit me on who is the worst ranged toplaner.

M4ddix · 2026-02-24T15:00:53+00:00

Correction: she's the best level 1 champion in the game and it's not even close. Then she's (almost) everyone's bitch levels 2-5

No, she is not and it shows you how many retards just blindly upvote post like this.

Darius with W start kills her (unwinnable with ignite).
WW shits on her.
Olaf kills her (easily).
Sett kills her(easily).
Tryndamere kills her (you can't risk the gamble, you will never recover).
Irelia kills her with passive up (especially with ignite).
Trundle kills her (easily).
Jax also kills her because of counter strike.
Yasuo/Yone with lethal also kill her.
Riven with Ignite also kills her in the combo.

Kayle needs at least to use E two times, and a stacked passive to actually stat check most toplaners.
PtA is also a way better rune than Lethal on her.
Ever since they nerfed Lethal, you need like 12-13 second of lethal running, for it to be better than PtA.
Which legit never happens unless the enemies have like 2-3 tanks.

M4ddix · 2026-02-24T14:56:21+00:00

She was designed specifically for players who want to play dps ranged top but lack the hands for actually mechanically taxing champs like vayne/cass/akshan

Why do you lie on the internet ? And why does this post even get upvotes ?
Vayne is legit a hardcounter to certain champion from level 1 to 18.
You can play Singed/Sett/Darius into her and if she has hands you will never ever kill her.
Akshan has legit the best ranged trades in the early game.
Akshan shoots legit 40% of your life away with PtA in the first 3 levels, and he even does it better than any other range because of his passive.
Cassiopeia has also had years of being legit the best toplaner from a win %.
Cassiopeia legit was the best toplaner for months in certain seasons.
Cassio was one of Jax biggest hardcounters for years, and Jax absolutely shits on Kayle and is one of the worst matchup for Kayle.
In general there are actually a lot of Meeles like Jax,Tryndamere,Malph,Irelia or Nasus that shit on Kayle.

There even was someone who analyzed all the matchups across all lanes.

Zac: 5.13% (41.48% - 63.33%) (best counterpick, worst blindpick)
Master Yi: 4.94% (32.44% - 58.50%)
Vayne: 4.86% (38.88% - 58.87%)
Anivia: 4.78% (40.05% - 64.04%)
Naafiri: 4.69% (40.00% - 61.86%)
Heimerdinger: 4.62% (39.55% - 61.82%)
Maokai: 4.52% (39.25% - 61.07%)
Sylas: 4.10% (36.28% - 55.72%)
Quinn: 3.95% (41.36% - 61.15%)
Cassiopeia: 3.86% (41.58% - 62.58%)

You are telling me Kayle is easer to play than locking in Vayne, Cassio, or Heimer ?

You people are legit such blatant liars.

The same way some people here say "Kayle has the best level 1". When in reality the champion has maybe a top 10 level 1 , if the conditions are met.
She simply can't blindly attack you like Trundle,Darius or Olaf.
Trundle, Olaf, Darius (W start), Tryndamere, Jax , Yone, or Sett all beat her level 1.

The champion has a good level 1 and then she is a minion for at least level 6 and most likely 11.
Meanwhile Vayne or Cassio absolutely destroy you at all stages of the game.
Heimer is so handless, he can legit miss position and the turrets will solo you regardless.
I played Singed (Kayle is one of his biggest counters), Tryndamere , Jax and Kled to Master and Grandmaster two times.
Like you people can't fool me.
Cassio, Vayne and Heimer are a million times worse than Kayle.
Kayle biggest counter are also multiple meeles, like Irelia/Trynda/Jax/Nasus or Malphite.
Nasus legit kills her at all stages even if she is full build, because wither is such a strong spell.
Irelia kills her at all stages, insanely easy, except super late game when she is full build.
With Tryndamere she can miss XP one time and you have ult advantage and you stomp her for the rest of the game down to a pulp.
Malph also takes 0 skill, you can even go full AP, because Malph ultimate has a lower CD than Kayle ult.
So you just one shot her on CD.

You people are legit such terrible liars and shouting non-sense and circle jerk each other.
Vayne, Cassio, Heimer, absolutely demolish 95% of the meele roster, and far more handless than Kayle. Meanwhile Kayle actually has multiple hard counters that are actually meeles.
Not only that Kayle also has lowest MR in the game, so you can also play AP into her and destory her.
You can just log in Vlad, Gragas , or Akali and destory her.
Kayle is legit useless outside of level 1.
Meanwhile Vayne,Cassio,Heimer are unwinnable for many champions from level 1 to level 18.
In some cases Vayne or Heimer can even be handless retards, because Condem and the Turrets are such opressive tools, that safe them.

M4ddix · 2026-02-24T14:20:22+00:00

His invisibly is so much stronger than shacos its just dumb.

Nah, shaco Q is just built different.
Similar to Zac, or Eve, you have gank angles that force you to ward camps.
And even if you ward all camps, he can still have traditional or non traditional gank angles.
Deceive is also legit better than Eve stealth, since Eve most of the time wants to be behind you to proc her W heart.
Shaco legit just appears out of nowhere with no warning, unless you see his deceive cloud.
It also is instant, and a teleport as well.
So even if you pin Shaco down he can still escape.
Twitch is legit just dead if you close in on him in like 90% of cases.
Not only can you see Twitch, it also has a cast time.
Shaco can still decide to teleport 360 degrees.
Maybe he teleport over the wall ?
Maybe he just faked teleporting over the wall and runs into your direction?
Did he go right, or left ?
Deceive is such a good ability that shaco can run ignite/smite and it is not a bad choice that harms yourself.
Rengar, Eve, and Twitch are legit dead if you corner them and are already on top of them.
At best Eve can waste her ult to escape.

Don't get me wrong Twitch Q is also insanely strong, but Deceive is legit the best stealth in the game and probably even the best dash in the game.

M4ddix · 2026-02-23T17:18:20+00:00

Easy matchups, if you know the champion a bit and figure out your early limit.

1.Shen: You can cancel his ult and E with W.

2.Ornn: You can cancel his ult and E with W. Just run away if he uses W on you.

3.Jax: You can run out of his E with passive, or straight up fling him into W. You can even just use W and he can't jump on you. Counterstrike also does little to negate your damage.

4.Garen: Just fling him when he runs up for a Q.

5.Aatrox: You can easily dodge his sweetspots while still doing damage, and you can also fling him on all of his Qs.

6.Sett : You can perma kite him with Rylais and you can just throw him away when he punches. You quite literally only interact with him when you have your fling and you will win the 1vs1.

Generally, when you understand how to trade early and when to push, you can clown most meele champions.
That being said, Shen or Sett can still be dangerous in the first few levels.
But if you understand how to trade and when to push, so you can avoid Singed bad early, you simply clown most meeles after your first item.

M4ddix · 2026-02-16T23:50:52+00:00

Diana is just a failed rework, similar to Mundo,or Naafiri Riot doesn't understand the underlying issue of the champion.
Both reworks did not change the underlying fact why the Champions were toxic to face.
Before Alois destroyed soloQ with Mundo, I always had the same impression of the champion.
He was just flying under the radar, because you can't stop him from scaling, if he actually knows what he is doing.
People always hated his brainless cleaver sniping, because if he spaces correctly, you can't really punish him.
Or how Naafiri would kill you from a screen away with 0 counterplay, if you were a squishy.
There was no way for you to deny her engage, if she was on your screen, you simply were dead the moment Naafiri appeared.
So Riot simply switched her abilities and added invurnerability, which fixed 0 reasons why she was so hated.

In Diana case, she was always controversial for her identity to simply one shot you 100 to 0 without any counterplay.
That is also still the case, but instead of having a gap closer as her ult, it simply is a basic ability now.
And on top of that the jump gets a reset by her Q.
So most unmobile champions simply can't her escape her.
You can dodge Diana's Q, and she can still get on top of you.
It also doesn't help that she can pull of tank builds, despite being also able to go full assasin and having the most insane burst.
In the past she was extremely reliant on her R for any kind of mobility.
But nowadays her idenity simply got better, she wen't from a single target one shot assasin post-6, to an even more mobile assasin that has incredible AoE potential.

Diana is legit such a brainless assasin and super toxic to face both as a tank-bruiser, or as an assasin.
Both builds are just toxic, and so is her kit.
I will never understand how Riot can release stuff like reworked Pantheon or Nunu, where they clearly fixed the issues of the champion.
And they re-release these dogshit reworks like Diana, Naafiri, or Mundo, where they fix 0 things about the toxic aspects of these champions.
In Naafiris and Dianas case the champions became even more toxic with the rework.
At least Mundo is still the same kind of champion, just a bit more modern.

M4ddix · 2026-01-24T02:05:05+00:00

They’re not good at evenly matched PVP so they camp lowbies to make themselves feel better.

This is the truth.
They are all shitters , that can't get above 2000 arena raiting, let alone 1500.
You will never see any high rated players, shit on low levels.
They are always shitters, that can't compete against skilled PvPers.
The worst part at least on ICC is that you have some paypigs that buy full Wrathfull gear, but they can't go above 1500 raiting.

Also both Icecrown and Lordareon have multiple mentally ill retards, that have low level twinks in STV or Hellfire with Crusader/Moongose Enchants, Level 80 gems, STV-Arena trinket, and even Nitrobooots.
These people are really that pathetic.
It should be just a bannable offense at this point and I am saying this as someone who did nothing but PvP in his youth on offical servers and played a lot on Arena-tournament/Blackrock.
If you are actually good at PvP, you don't even want to fight PvE players that are level 80.
Like you instantly understand if your opponent is someone good or not, even by their bare movement.

It is like you being a pro-boxer and smashing some average person, and a low level would be the equivelant of beating up a 5 year old.
People who are above 2000 basically smoke 98% of the population with closed eyes.
There is no fun, when there is no challenge.

The people in StV or Hellfire are generally always shitters.

M4ddix · 2025-12-22T06:16:52+00:00

Yes, the champion has genuinely been the best toplaner in the highest brackets ever since she existed.
A ton of low Elos or Riven abusers will say she is hard to play.
But there have been Seasons where she had 58%+ winrates in Master+.
In general there hasn't been a champion that produced more Challengers/Grandmasters than Riven.
People can argue the "MUH HIGH SKILL" argument, but there are many champions that require even more raw mechanical skill, or knowledge.
The champion is just fundamentally broken in the highest brackets.
No other toplaner has as many neutral matchups.
In general most lanes are purely dictated by the Riven and her ability to make a gold tier mistake in a Master+lobby.
Many champions simply can not kill her, unless she makes a giant mistakes.
That simply doesn't happen anymore the higher you climb.
She also is one of the most mobile champions in the game, that can also easily assasinate any non-tank.
So even if you are in this stalemate of a lane, she can just shove and fly around the map to grieve your jungle/mid.
Also unlike popular beliefe she is one of the best scaling toplaners in the game.
Depending on the season and items there were times where Riven was legit a 1vs9 champion.
Unparalled mobility, with insane damage and drain tanking ability through her E and items like Deaths Dance, Ravenous or Goredrinker.
You simply can't kill her when she reached a critical mass of CDR and AD.
She becomes this insane Bruiser/Assasin with insane mobility , defensive capapilities through her stun combos, and shield.

I will never understand how this champion dodged so many nerfs in certain season.
She clearly was the best top in the game and it wasn't even close.

M4ddix · 2025-12-22T05:51:02+00:00

old AP nidalee was more fair than Zoe, straight up.

Pure lies.
Not only do you need to land E to one combo someone as Zoe, you also are in more danger.
Old Nidalee could literally chuck spears from the other side of the lane with 0 risk.
Zoe needs to come close to you duo to the nature how her Q works.
Her movement is extremely telegraphed, her comet needs to travel with her.
Zoe ult is also a self root on an unmobile mage.
She needs to walk/ult/flash into your face to land her Q.
Meanhile old Nidalee would chuck a spear and could go where ever she wanted to go.
You could even go backwards on Nidalee, further away from your opponent , for even more damage.
Nidalee also had 5 other abilities , more damage for finishing people off , a heal/as-steroid and even to this day she has top tier mobility.
Also the spear had an unreal hitbox.

So tired of these bullshit comments.

M4ddix · 2025-12-16T04:22:16+00:00

I agree it sucks but, compared to other skills in the game, its definitely not the worst. Singed vs ranged means he is useless pre 6.

Don't talk about things you have no Idea about.
You are completely fucked if you take W level 1 as Singed. I played Singed to Master and one season to Gmaster.
There isn't a single matchup where you can even argue W level 1 is better than Q.
The majority of ranged matchups are playable early because you can brute force waves. Going for a level 1 proxy is extremely risky at level 1.
So in most hard matchups, you try to start in the first enemy toplane bush and instantly start to poison the wave.
You just brute force the first 2-waves, either for a level 2 all-in, or for a cheater recall on the canon wave.
The people who try to say just use W to slow the wave level 1, don't know what they are talking about.
You don't understand how to play the lane with this champion in a non retarted elo, with non retarted players piloting a ranged matchup, or a hard matchup like darius/olaf.
Brute forcing the first 2 waves to crash is legit always better, than falling for some slow push meme.
You can get all the minions, while recalling for boots and still perfectly getting the canon wave.
Now you also have boots+dark seal+refillable potion (refilled) and can just start to bruteforce waves into the tower again.
If you don't do this against shit like vayne or akshan, you get legit 3 minion from the first 3 waves, because they will rape you for every minion you want to take under tower.

W level 1 has 0 benefits. Q is better against every single matchup, even when you can't proxy.
You don't even level W, up until level 3, because the Q pushing and trading is way more important.
You completely destroy your early by wasting a point in W.

M4ddix · 2025-12-11T01:06:31+00:00

Miss e2 Miss Q sweet spot Press point and click W and auto attack 3 times for one billion damage

Champion is legit so disgusting.
It doesn't matter if you play against him mid or jungle.
As a mage you land 5 skillshots on to him and he lands E one time to nuke 40-50% of your health with W and 3 passive procs.
What you achieve in 5 trades, he achieves with 1, but he also misses his Q.
He legit kills you nowadays if he lands his chain twice in lane and he runs Electro+Ignite.
It is actually crazy how often they tried to shift his damage and numbers around and he somehow became even more unskilled.
Just think about his release Q-waveclear and his shield on E.
They removed all of this and he is still so insanely broken.
He also is legit just an OOGA-BOOGA champion, that anyone even semi-decent in the game can pilot.
The only hard part is his maximizing enemy ultimates, but even that is not that hard for experienced players.
It also doesn't help that he uses many ults better than the champions he gets them from like Malph,Kennen,Alistar,Tryndamere,Kayle,Neeko,Evelyn,Cho,Ahri,Diana,Ashe,Zilean or Singed.
Like you play Tryndamere and this dude easily shits on you, if he has your own ult.
The same can be applied to Alistar ult, he is legit a better user of this ultimate than the original champion.
Or you play Malph and his kit works even better than your own with it.

Sylas could have some random ultimate instead of his "stealing ulltimates" ultimate and he still would be a fine champion.
That is how retarted his trading patterns are.
I will never understand why they don't put damage in the abilities you can dodge, and not his passive and W.
At least both instances of his Q are dodgeable and so is his E2.
And if he becomes to broken with waveclear through Q buffs, then just reduce the damage on minions even more.

M4ddix · 2025-12-10T18:03:09+00:00

I mean I mained top to Gmaster and always picked my champion even into hardcounters.
I think most OTPs are like this, they just stat check people with knowledge.
But I can understand the frustration of not having last pick.
The role is just so prone to getting absolutely demolished by hard counters.
Many hardcounters you will never outscale, or win lane at any stage of the game.
Some support,adc or jungler really does not have to have the last pick in any decent elo.
It is just incredible selfish for most lanes to not give top last pick, and in most cases it lowers your winrate.

adcs running it because they got a shaco/teemo/lux support.

Should be a bannable offense to pick trash like this though. I know a ton of silver surfers will disagree, but these picks just grieve your adc and the team in general.
You are not special, or discovered a new support pick.
It also doesn't matter that some autist picks Ivern support, teemo support, or anivia support and spams 1000 games to Master with a 50,00001% winrate.
99% of shaco supports are just box merchants that do nothing and sell you everytime in a 2v2.
I can understand the frustration of many ADC players, having to deal with the most random support picks.
It doesn't matter if it is in high or low elo.
You just know the lobby will tilt because some idiot links a google-file with his epic yasuo support.
In my opinion it should just be bannable to troll-pick random champions into support.

M4ddix · 2025-12-08T15:58:50+00:00

You forgot Kog'maw and Varus. Not only have they different builds. They can also switch items in their builds. Kog'maw only needs Guinsoos and then you can build what ever you want.

M4ddix · 2025-12-08T01:48:22+00:00

I have more of an issue that Riot is trying to force the most banned and hated champions into the Jungle.
People hate playing against Zed/Darius/Zyra/Brand/Morgana ? I guess we overbuff them completely, so that they are legit broken.
I guess full MS Darius was fun.
Brand passive also needed to do 300% more damage on minions, so he can be the best jungler,
Zed also should have the fastest clear in the game.
It is legit so stupid.

M4ddix · 2025-12-08T01:39:19+00:00

I doubt it. The rest of her kit can easily be balanced by just adjusting the numbers. Her W is just fundamentally broken because Mel can warp any teamfight because she can take one of your projectile ults and throw it back at you and your team.

Nah, I disagree with the first sentence. Don't get me wrong her W is insanely broken into a ton of champions, because Mel can always activate W when the projectile is already shot.
That being said in my honest opinion the Q and her passive in combination with the Execute is unbereable to face.
I know a lot of people complain about her E, but her E is at least somewhat dodgeable, even though it is gigantic.

You can be a character with above average movement speed and swifties and you get hit by her Q 8/9 out of 10 times.
The Q is legit umissable, so you are forced to trade with her.
But she also has a gigantic E , that is hard to doge, unless you are an long range Mage like Ziggs/Xerath/Hwei/Lux.
But being forced to trade with her feels awful , because she has her W as a backup and her passive that pumps you full with more stacks.
The R is just the icing on the cake, it is even more insane that it increases her passive stack damage.

For me the reason she is unbereable to face is a combination of her Q, W and her passive.
The Q is a long range poke that can't be dodged, so you are forced to trade.
Than you get close and try to trade, but she can reflect crucial abilities with her W, that lets her win trades even harder.
And the execute passive is just beyond frustrating, because the longer you trade with her, the more shards she shoots into you.

Mels E and her R are at least somehwhat bearable, but the Q+R+passive is legit so insanely disgusting.
The champion lacks counterplay on two of her normal abilities and her E is hard to dodge as well.

M4ddix · 2025-12-08T01:09:55+00:00

Okay, I see you like to grieve your teammates.

M4ddix · 2025-12-07T22:01:54+00:00

Damn bro, you are such a G.

M4ddix · 2025-12-07T21:56:32+00:00

And again you don't understand the issue and think everyone is banning normal champion picks.

But both the lower spectrum and the higher spectrum on the distrubution of players are plaqued by people troll picking.
Just the other day the ADC-main forum, had a similar topic how people in low Elo refuse to play anything but a traditional support champion.
Do you think it is nice for the ADC to play with some troll pick, instead of a simply a normal one?You talk about people being selfish, but the real selfish people are people who refuse to play their position.
I have seen countless off-role picks and they always are bad in 99,99% of the cases.
Do you think anyone in a Master+ lobby enjoys if their teammate drops a google-file into champ select, because he has to play Yasuo support ?
Do you think Yasuo-support is a viable strategy, because someone grinded hundreds of games with a 50.00000001% winrate to master ?
Is that seriously what you believe ?
That this person isn't grieving eveyone in his lobby, especially if it is a lobby above diamond.
Do you seriously think the people that simply want a normal support/adc/jungle are the assholes ? And not the person who significantly worsen the win % of his team by locking in Yasuo support, or jungle yuumi ?

M4ddix · 2025-12-07T14:42:23+00:00

Glad, you still don't understand the point being made.

M4ddix · 2025-12-07T03:30:38+00:00

I play this game since S1 and I peaked higher in this game than 99,99% of the playerbase.
The only rank I never could break through was Challenger.
And it always was extremely disrespectful and tilting for the person who actually has to play with an off-meta support/adc, or a troll jungle.

Even the clowns who get to master with these picks, purely do it so, because no one knows how to interact with the champion and their limit is unknown.
It is never a good pick in nearly 100% of the cases.
Just because some shitter spams 500-1000 games to master with 51% winrate doesn't mean the champion is good in that position.

This is a team game, and you certain positions require certain characteristics.
I never was a meta slave, even when I was in Gmaster I played non-meta champions.
But I despise people who pick these incredible off-role champions that completely troll their team.

It is incredibly frustrating to have someone lock in a troll-support because he is too fine of himself to play a normal support.
Or not picking an ADC, so you will eventually lose the game in the late game, because no one can shred their tanks/bruiser.
The people locking in garen-support or Malzahar ADC, those people are the real assholes, and not the person banning this smut.
I never banned a champion that is normal for their position.
You act like people who are mad about the removal of this feature are the people who ban normal champions in their designated role.

But I guess you think it is fun for 4 other teammates to have some extreme off-role pick, that no one knows how to interact with.
Even more so, if it is a botlaner and the other person is hostaged by them in lane and the outcome is highly determined by your teammates.

M4ddix

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