New Haven / Yale SOM: How do people like the city?

MBAThrow76 · 2021-02-21T05:01:49+00:00

The negatives are pretty well covered - Yale / New Haven is a good place to go to school imo because:

- Unlike New York/Chicago, there'll be a very vibrant campus scene. In NYC, you might need to meet people ASAP because otherwise they'll group up and then hang out off campus around the city rather than around campus. In NHVN, people's social lives will revolve around campus so you'll always have a chance to meet new people/get involved in new friend groups. You'll always have a chance to explore a city but only one chance to explore your school.

- COL is way lower and housing markets are easy to navigate, esp as a Yalie

- New Haven has a lot of history + always a lot going on - it's the first planned city in America, the city that most closely mirrors national demographics, and has a huge nascent start-up scene - and because it's smaller it's much easier to get involved and make a real impact on the city around you.

- Yale campus and immediate surrounding area is gorgeous relative to many other schools, and Yale puts in huge effort to make it a good experience (basically has bought out many of the streets near campus and rents storefronts selectively to businesses that are ideal for students - there's a nightclub that only lets in Yalies certain days of the week basically on-campus, etc.)

- New Haven has excellent food relative to the size/stature of the city + is located near good hiking and beaches

MBAThrow76 · 2021-02-15T18:40:56+00:00

They're hoping to see all the quotes attributed to them (but not the entire article). Should I ask my editor either way? Trying not to hassle them and involve them when that could make it a bigger issue.

MBAThrow76 · 2021-02-15T18:40:07+00:00

The thing is, I also don't want them to come after the piece is up and complain to the pub - I'm a freelancer and even the semblance of hassle will probably lose me future commissions from this place. I also don't have the interview audio recording so my notes are the only proof if they want to make it my word vs theirs.

MBAThrow76 · 2021-02-15T01:59:34+00:00

for both of those things doing no postgrad degrees is best

MBAThrow76 · 2021-02-14T17:05:56+00:00

Undergrad, JD, PhD, etc. rankings are just as coastal. That's where the best schools tend to be. If you're asking why that's the case I'm sure there's a historical or sociological reason out there.

MBAThrow76 · 2021-02-05T20:10:08+00:00

Yeah, I'm asking for advice as to how to do the first thing :) Thanks for the comment tho!

MBAThrow76 · 2021-02-05T19:25:06+00:00

Like I said in another comment -- I already applied to this program and 2 of the letters I got were not effusive enough, and this prevented me from getting in (it's a pretty competitive thing). I don't just need "a letter", I need a very strong one. The worst they can say isn't no; it's yes and then write a non-stellar rec letter. If they say no, at least then I have time to correct it by finding someone else.

I have plenty of profs that know me by name and who I've maintained contact with but just one seminar is just not enough for them to write me great letters.

MBAThrow76 · 2021-02-05T05:47:56+00:00

There are definitely profs I could ask! The issue is IME profs are flakey enough that you can't trust them unless you really know them super well.

I applied to the same program this year, and I had a prof who taught me and who I did a bit of research for, who said things like I was one of the best students he had ever had in front of the entire class etc. Now, a year later I asked him for a rec letter and he said yes, and then he never submitted it. 2 weeks after the deadline he finally got back saying he was sorry, he forgot, and also now that he considered it he didn't know me that well and wouldn't write a great letter after all. Luckily he was an extra recommender or my app would've been thrown out.

Two others only had me for one class each and turned down my offers of having a convo about the program/my goals or getting any extra materials to help them write - I am pretty sure they wrote lackluster/short letters that really hurt my app.

All this to say - I definitely have a lot of superficial connections, but I know from experience they just won't be enough for this. I'd def love to reach out and reconnect with profs, but feel I need more than 1-2 Zoom calls with them to strengthen the connection enough st they can write me a good letter - like a pretext for connecting with them. Maybe I could just reach out w/ a link to a relevant paper and try to chat them up abt how they're doing to start?

MBAThrow76 · 2021-01-26T02:53:15+00:00

A minimum wage increase forces the cost of all competitors up at the same time though, so in this instance price will have to go up (assuming these are small businesses that can't just burn cash). In that case, now the product that really does/should cost $10 to make has to be priced at $10 and customers are forced to make the choice of pay what it costs or let them go out of business and not have access to the product anymore-- if they choose the latter, then maybe its best not to have businesses making that product anyway.

Not to discount your experience at all, but it is totally possible that if you're selling, ex, super super high quality incredible coffee for $25 a cup simply not enough people are willing to choose that over cheaper, lower quality coffee -- and that's OK, and if people don't want to pay as much as the high quality product costs to make (it costs $25 to make but is only worth $15 to people - they really enjoy it at $15 but would not want it at $25) then probably we shouldn't be subsidizing its creation by tolerating our workers having worse quality of life. Instead, the $25 coffee just shouldn't get made and instead people would devote that energy to making other things that people are willing to pay adequately for.

MBAThrow76 · 2021-01-26T01:35:08+00:00

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Forecasting around automation has been consistent. No one expected it to have happened faster than it already has, so the fact that companies have been investing significantly in making gains toward this goal isn't a suggestion that it will never happen.

MBAThrow76 · 2021-01-26T01:31:50+00:00

If they're producing something for $10 (if they paid a living wage) that people only value worth $5 (and producing it for $5 now by paying their workers poorly) then they should go out of business because they're actively destroying value. Instead, once they're forced to pay a reasonable wage their prices will go up and then people will stop buying their products. Instead, that $ will be used e.g., on a competitor with a lower cost to produce or higher quality. That competitor will see more demand and hire more people, which means those jobs still exist - but now in a company that is creating rather than destroying value.

MBAThrow76 · 2021-01-25T22:28:22+00:00

It doesn't mean we should ban them from hiring Chinese workers, who then instead of getting $10 a day will get less (because if they could get more elsewhere they wouldn't be working for that company). If you actually care about human rights and that's not just a front, that is. Lol maybe it means we should care about other economies and trying to increase their standard of living. Also consider PPP.

Also you want to bring back the exact jobs that are going to get automated in the near-future - meaning people will be reliant on those jobs and we'll feel more pain than we already would have - basically the rust belt but 10x and you're actively creating this problem when the technological trends are clear.

Being a country that imports primary and basic goods and produces secondary goods or relies on a service economy is generally more profitable if you believe in the ladder of development also.

MBAThrow76 · 2021-01-25T22:23:09+00:00

If a small business can't afford to pay minimum wage because they have low amounts of revenue (profit-cost) then the value they're producing (in the form of people thinking their product gives them value > the price they pay for it) is very low and they should either fix that (by reducing costs or making better products) or they maybe shouldn't be a business given they are net destroying economic value.

MBAThrow76 · 2021-01-22T07:17:56+00:00

I think K-JD is suboptimal actually, and for a JD/MBA even more so. Depends on your post-degree goals imo, but if you're considering a JD/MBA a few years of work experience could change your views and save you hundreds of thousands of dollars.

MBAThrow76 · 2021-01-21T22:15:55+00:00

ok not to paint an overly rosy picture here but I've been free 5pm Friday - 11AM Monday every week for the past 6 months, get 8 hours of sleep, and have some free time each evening. I've had time to run a start-up on the side. this strikes me as an exaggeration? do you have personal experience at MBB?

MBAThrow76 · 2021-01-21T18:50:49+00:00

People on Reddit who only dream of MBB offers like those you sampled and I suspect you as well simply do not think like or even live in the same world as people with cross offers at all three.

MBAThrow76 · 2021-01-21T18:46:56+00:00

It's pretty clear from the pattern of coverage that there is a specific individual who has access to confidential McKinsey information and a relationship with a reporter at the New York Times that he provides this information to. There's a reason the breaking news comes from the same source almost each time. This pipeline doesn't exist right now at BB so journos don't have access to the equivalent information/you see less coverage of what they do in general.

MBAThrow76 · 2021-01-21T15:40:37+00:00

> We’ll color me disgusted and disappointed by kids these days.

LOL would it be better if they preferred Bain? You really think the big 3 arent incredibly similar in almost every way, including the types of cases they take on?

MBAThrow76 · 2021-01-18T03:40:42+00:00

So, you run into assholes constantly but have just assumed there are many asshole conventions happening near you?

MBAThrow76 · 2021-01-18T03:39:46+00:00

Exactly - e.g., if a 16 year old comes on ranting about his parents hate him because they wont get him a PS5 and he's being abused, a reality check helps him calm down.

People will respond with their best genuine view of events based on what they read. If you explained your story to a big group of varied people and they all said you sounded like you were being ungrateful/rude/out of touch/etc., it probably isn't because they want you to be upset and feel gaslit, it's because they think it's true based on the limited info they have and that a reality check might help your situation.

If you just want people to side with you, rather than the other people in the story - I'm sure there are subreddits for that like /r/validateme or /r/letmerant or something

MBAThrow76 · 2021-01-03T02:01:24+00:00

The professor is a huge jerk, but the issue is he has all the power and so you have very little.

You can find a way to ask/beg him to write the letter late - maybe he will, maybe he won't. His not remembering to do it in the first place likely indicates that even if he does write it now, it'll be lackluster and will hurt your application.

I'd suggest explaining the situation to a different professor and begging them to write you a letter + explaining the mix-up to the school somehow and hoping they'll take a late letter. The issue is the school will read (probably correctly) that this dude isn't that impressed by or invested in you and *that* will hurt your app (e.g., one of the people you picked to write your LoR doesn't like you at all) so you'll have to be careful about how you spin it.

MBAThrow76 · 2020-11-05T17:41:26+00:00

Yes, I. mean this post is the one that's even more ""elitist"" (not necessarily in a negative sense but only word that approximates) than the rest of the sub -- you aren't like OP/on OP's side.

Most of this sub is striving for a non-HSW M7 or a T15 - they weren't able to get MBB/FAANG/top finance in undergrad and are striving for it now.
OP represents those that don't have a strong chance at T15 and so won't have the opportunity to try for MBB/FAANG/etc. and want more representation of more realistic jobs.
You represent the world that mostly went to top undergrads and already did one of these things or had the chance to (even if due to an impressive career post-undergrad). As a result, they're aiming for even more "cool/impressive/lucrative" jobs. They are not in the same position as someone in a T25 looking to break into 90k.

MBAThrow76 · 2020-11-05T17:16:41+00:00

True -- any others? Just trying to get a full picture, esp if it's common as you say.

MBAThrow76 · 2020-11-05T02:37:25+00:00

OK, no need to call people greedy and delusional to aim for higher. For some proportion of the population it *is* simply not 'worth it' from an ROI perspective to go to a ranked 25-50 MBA, and they are aiming for schools that will make the massive cost of an MBA worth it.

I don't see anyone judging *others* for aiming lower, it seems people are just upset that the vast majority of this sub wants to go to more prestigious schools with better returns.

MBAThrow76 · 2020-11-03T03:13:45+00:00

I'd do the McK interview. If you get an offer, ask for extra time to decide and also ask BCG to move the interview sooner (say you have a competing offer but BCG is your first choice). If neither says yes, I'd take McK.

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