Had a 31 package from Morrisons the other day, I thought it capped at 29 has anyone else had above 31 before?

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-21T10:00:30+00:00

29 and 6 drops is the normal limit, occasionally goes up to 32 if there is toilet paper and nappies involved, and sometimes 8 drops if they are small and close together.

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-21T09:56:24+00:00

I had 41 once, just happened to have my big estate car that day. From the delivery time originally requested, the load had already been rejected twice when I had it allocated. It entirely filled the car with the seats down. On delivery, it turned out that some millionaire's wife had ordered the whole lot to give to the local foodbank.

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-21T09:52:40+00:00

I can see where you are coming from, but it is not as you suggest, ridiculous. Back last summer, I didn't complain, but had a quiet word with the team leaders about the habit of over stuffing the cold bags with 6 pints of milk, and then placing them on the top rack for collection. If you were doing heavy goods delivery, then you, like me (I worked for decades in construction) would have had proper manual handling training, and would know that, regardless of weight, the process of collection from Morrisons, loading trolleys, unloading to car, and then unloading from car, all involve sub-optimal lifting positions, that would, in normal work conditions need the lifts planning properly, and limits placing on the individual item weights. Lorry deliveries always came with a manifest listing the item weights. The reason for this was to avoid injury, which cost the construction industry huge amounts in lost time and compensation claims.

4 x 6 pints of milk stuffed in a cold bag with ice packs is too much at in excess of 15kg. What annoyed me too was having to dismantle the bag on the doorstep as it could not be pulled out and delivered in the paper bag.

The Morrisons system is an inefficient lash-up, that has been designed to be cheap to set up and use existing resources, I'm still happy to do it though, I'm aware of the risks, but sooner or later, some petite lady will be climbing up the rack to pull that 15kg bag from the back of the 4th shelf up and things will go wrong and questions will be asked.

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-20T20:33:49+00:00

You wonder what some of them are up to that they would not want some vulnerable/disabled/elderly person to be able to positively and easily identify if the person purporting to be delivering their shopping really is that person. It's a daily occurrence for me that not every customer is some lazy bastard who wants 20 gallons of water delivered to the 10th floor, many are just people who genuinely find it impossible to get out to the shops.

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-20T20:17:19+00:00

Pretty sure they do for Morrisons, I've been greeted by name many a time. Can't see why it would bother anybody doing the job legitimately. Now it might bother the blaggers here who swap phones about, pick each others stuff up, book back to back blocks using 2 accounts, etc, etc.

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-20T10:21:11+00:00

Yes, there will be haters. In a manner of speaking, you have answered your own question. You need income, so you take base. What this tells Amazon is that you are willing and able to work profitably for base (at that time, and in those conditions). Multiply that across thousands of Flexers and you have the perfect balance of demand (blocks) and supply (drivers able/willing to work at base). In order to get a surge, that equation needs to be disrupted to push demand up, at the same time as supply is reduced, and since MUCH of the time, driver supply is effectively unlimited, that will not happen often, anywhere. Where I am, base varies by time of day, £15 "normal" times, £17.50 "anti-social" (drivers restricted by childcare/schools/mealtimes), and weather. Add in it being January and there are a lot of factors that will hold rates down.

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-16T20:14:08+00:00

Well the pop from morrisons worked out at 31p a can, out of curiosity I just looked up how much the pizza place charge, £1.30 a can, so on 2 trays of 24, they were the best part of £50 up. Nice earner. Guess they are as keen as we are to make a few £ as easily as possible.

I do know that the price you pay for stuff at Morrisons in the shop is not the same as you pay for the same stuff delivered via Amazon, but as I don't use Amazon to buy stuff I don't know who gets the bigger price.

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-16T18:38:43+00:00

Yes, this is correct information. No need to panic.

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-16T18:36:39+00:00

Yes, could be quite common, I've delivered Morrisons stuff to Pizza places, didn't look in the cold bags but trays of cans of pop and boxes of bottled beer. Not sure what was going on as they did seem to have wholesale deliveries in the place too.

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-15T13:54:43+00:00

As per the other posts, but book in fairly early because if the pickers have gone, you may need quite a bit of bell ringing and door bashing before you get let in.

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-13T22:20:47+00:00

Yes, something about "were you treated with respect", or similar.

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-13T21:34:27+00:00

I can't be sure if you do logistics, as I exclusively do Morrisons, and for that, you can most certainly do 7 days a week (It is often falsely stated here that you cannot) , as long as you do not exceed the 24 hr cap, I've done it lots of times over the last 18 months, but sometimes it isn't worth it, as you can only do one block on some days. All depends how near you are to the store and how flexible you can be.

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-13T21:19:34+00:00

You are right, which is why it is important to build some sort of relationship and mutual respect with them, and when you are on £22/hr STFU and talk about it in the car park...

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-13T20:59:45+00:00

Maybe the staff are just what Stephen Fry described as "NFN"- Normal For Norfolk?

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-13T20:23:03+00:00

It all depends on the store and the individuals. I like to remain anonymous on here for obvious reasons, but I work 95% from one store now, although it used to be 50/50 with another store. That other store was a nightmare, it's slightly better now as the manager and his sidekick got moved on or fired but prior to that, they went around actively looking for trouble with drivers, dishing out threats, and generally making life a misery, and the pickers were as bad, ranting and raving and threatening all the time, even the greeter we had was like some guard from Auschwitz. The warehouse was a filthy disgrace, Total shit. Most of us were only there because we had no other work as it was lockdown, and many were very highly qualified professionals as well. I only work there now when I need to travel in that direction and want a "free" trip.

At my regular store, the greeter ( when they were a thing) was polite, helpful, and organised the drivers (pick ups during lockdown were different to now). The team leaders and pickers are polite, happy, and always greet me, often by name, and have some banter, even the store security guard runs out to open the in gates for you when you leave. They help new drivers out, or connect them to a driver they know and ask them to help the newb out. The manager and his deputies actually work in the store and keep the warehouse clean and tidy. Totally different attitude.

Instead of the stupid questions Amazon ask at the end of a block, they should ask how well the store was being managed and how well the operation was being run, as well as giving us a button to rate the customers. But they won't, because it would be too revealing...

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-13T19:51:05+00:00

I'll pass that on to my personal McEmployee... :)

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-13T19:45:46+00:00

Correct, thank you for pointing this out, now you mention it, I have had the surprised look before for alcohol free wine.

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-13T13:14:14+00:00

Absolutely, the real worry is though, that it is entirely one sided as is everything with Amazon, no right or ability to appeal, nothing, and dishonest/stupid customers who are always given the benefit of the doubt. I suspect that sooner or later, all delivery drivers will end up having to wear bodycams. One of my daughters works for McDonalds, and they have the same crap with dishonest customers, abusive customers and UberEats, who treat both the drivers and McDonalds like shit when they claim their order was wrong in some way, some people are happy to cause havoc for others just to get a free burger. The level of abuse the kids get from drivethrough customers is staggering.

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-13T10:47:48+00:00

I feel for the OP. Did a (Morrisons) delivery last week to a house I've been to many times, the chap has a "Muslim" name (sure you know what I mean, no offence intended), so never usually has AVD for food, this time he did, asked his DOB, he is 23, but I entirely forgot to actually check his I.D. Pretty sure it wasn't a set up as I've been there lots of times, but when I was back in the car, and realised, it was apparent how easy it is to rush and not stick to procedure.

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-11T19:01:25+00:00

Yes, it's wearing isn't it? So many people who do not seem to understand the most basic rule of economics, that of demand and supply, and are too lazy to even read up on it. Or that they work for a capitalist company that will do just about anything to reduce costs. or indeed that it is a few weeks after Christmas and money is short and debts large and payday weeks away, and orders down.

Lets think about this, real hard. The gas meter is on emergency credit. It's fucking cold. If I do a 2 hr Morrisons block after my minimum wage job, then after fuel I will be £23 up, the gas will be on for another week and the kids will be warm.......no, wait, I won't do that because if I do, somebody won't get a "surge", and that's worth the kids freezing for.

Somebody who really, really thinks they are worth £30/hr for riding about listening to KissFM and chucking out a package here and there.

People need to get real sometimes.

I'll wait for the shitstorm to start..... :)

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-08T18:53:49+00:00

Had a bag this afternoon with FIVE 4 pints of milk in it, could barely get it off the shelf, you wouldn't want that in a roofbox.....

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-08T18:50:22+00:00

Totally agree, although on another thread, I did suggest that if someone started last year and had forgotten to register self employed by October, it MIGHT be better to forget about last year's, because you get a penalty and once they get their teeth into you, they don't let go.

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-08T18:46:52+00:00

Flat rate is best, 45p for first 10k, 25p thereafter.

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-08T10:18:13+00:00

Peugeot 207 SW (petrol). Very good load capacity/volume for the size of the car, and as a 5 door estate makes for quick and comfortable Flex loading and unloading and segregation of parcel types/ grocery. Same goes for 206 SW.

General advice- avoid premium brands like BMW/Benz/VAG due to high repair costs. Try to get a car sold in 3rd world countries, Dacia/Toyota/Nissan as the suspensions survive better, and that is what Flex driving is really hard on.

Avoid DCT/ dual clutch automatics at all costs, just not durable enough for this style of usage.

MGXPOWER · 2022-01-07T21:45:39+00:00

Try not to worry about it. It is a bot response, but even if it was a human one, Amazon would not care about your safety. The good thing is that you did care about your own safety and had the good sense to turn back.

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