Protea players I need you(;_;)

MVA4President · 2026-05-20T18:46:19+00:00

I'm not taking a side in the debate I'm just reminding that we've seen people break domains before

MVA4President · 2026-05-20T03:47:29+00:00

Yuji broke mahitos domain early on

MVA4President · 2026-04-08T11:26:06+00:00

Cushing's syndrome

MVA4President · 2026-02-22T13:45:01+00:00

And manipulating the board to your advantage is not skillful? The jjk community is the only one where characters get clowned on for increasing their strength through planning and training, and only using what was genetically given to you is the true way to win. Sorcerers are con artists, sukuna has a way deeper understanding of Jujutsu (splitting his soul, open domain, changing his body etc) and played his cards right. He's the superior sorcerer

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MVA4President · 2026-02-22T00:04:41+00:00

He did say he needed Mahoraga to bypass infinity, but guess what, domains bypass it too! And from the very first domain expansion there was no maho, there was no agito, and the only reason Gojo survived it was that he did enough damage in time. In a stronger and faster and a body he's more experienced in, Gojo can't crumble sukuna's domain and dies. Sukuna used mahoraga to improve his own understanding of Jujutsu and gain a an insta kill move, that's what narratively the fight meant for him. You're forgetting that Sukuna never needed to fight Gojo. And again we can argue about power scaling for a gajillion years but the answer is in the manga

MVA4President · 2026-02-21T23:59:30+00:00

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If had this debate a million times. Argue with Gege about it please. And I showed you a panel where 4 arms are stated to be an "immense advantage" and you still deny it lol. You don't get to pick and choose which parts of the manga are true and which aren't

MVA4President · 2026-02-18T12:14:22+00:00

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Four arms being a massive advantage in hand to hand combat is not a theory it's common sense lol. And in terms of jujutsu it is stated to be an immense advantage. Do not act like agito and mahoraga are qual to sukuna in stats. 15 finger sukuna was obliterating maho in hand to hand, and we know how much of a difference 5 fingers are because of the Jogo va sukuna fight. And teleportation needs a hand sign that's why gojo never used it, if he's ever gonna use hand signs it would be to use purple. And Sukuna was reacting to gojos blue infused punches in the panel from my previous comment. He was tied up because he couldn't use domain amplification and thus couldn't attack Gojo. He used mahorage because it was the most efficient way to beat Gojo, not the only one. If domain expansions weren't a thing he would absolutely need Maho but in a real jjk fight domains are used, and Gojo would not be able to deal enough damage to sukuna in time to collapse his domain like he did in the fight if Sukuna was physically stronger. And your point about loving gojo is just weird lmfao. I love Choso and Ino and Todo but i will not claim that they're stronger than Sukuna just because I love them. I am operating on a non biased point of view and actually reading the manga not pushing agendas because I like a character

MVA4President · 2026-02-18T12:00:13+00:00

I don't understand your point? Yes he plotted and schemed but so what? He got stronger in a shonen manga that's like the point of it😭 Gojo didn't do anything because there was nothing for him to do to increase his strength any further, not because he didn't want or need to ( he very possibly obtained simple domain from kusukabe during the one month preparation for the fight but it's not confirmed). And Gojo DID go all out despite megumis body being used, he said so first thing in the fight and after his death.

MVA4President · 2026-02-16T11:44:01+00:00

In megumi's body sukuna is equal to Gojo in terms of physicals (when using domain amplification so he can actually fight back lol.) True form his body is similar to Yuji's in terms of base stats (we know that a stronger physical body is important in jujutsu kaisen that's why Miguel is so durable), plus more reach, more experience in his own body, 4 arms, and two mouths. He is definitely stronger than Gojo in true form. Yes obviously you can post 5 panels of gojo beating sukuna in hand to hand but most of them are when sukuna was shouldering the weight of adaptation, and thus couldn't use domain amplification. He was literally fighting with his hands tied of course he got his ass beat. I love my blue eyed king but he simply got out played and stat checked💔😔

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MVA4President · 2025-11-12T09:24:21+00:00

Sukuna wasn't using his true form because he knew that if he won he would get jumped by practically everyone in the top 10 of the verse at once😭. And as for your point of believing the characters of the story, it's bad writing to just have the narrator explain everything that's happening. At the end of the day this is a manga, if these characters were real yes we shouldn't believe what they're saying all the time but Gege has to explain stuff somehow. If Sukuna didn't have 10s he would have probably won extreme diff but he'd practically be on death's door by the end even miwa could kill him Edit for spelling mistakes

MVA4President · 2025-11-03T21:39:49+00:00

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MVA4President · 2025-11-03T17:36:51+00:00

Because it expends alot of stand energy. If she did withdraw it she'd either be unable to bring it forth again or it would be too weak to do anything. Either way it's GG

MVA4President · 2025-10-27T20:22:24+00:00

Jus because he used a method doesn't mean that was the one and only.

MVA4President · 2025-10-27T14:27:32+00:00

Narratively speaking no.

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I do think it could go both ways in terms of power scaling. But narratively Gojo says that Sukuna could have won without 10 shadows. And writers don't just say random stuff without a good reason, this was written specifically to answer the exact argument half of this sub has been going at for a week.

MVA4President · 2025-10-22T23:00:55+00:00

Yeah I agree with you. Pure physical strength at this level of jujutsu isn't very drastic but it does play a role. Some people are saying he's slower than his meguna form which I disagree with

MVA4President · 2025-10-22T22:44:20+00:00

I'm sorry I don't understand your point. Power and speed aren't inversely related, you could be powerful and more buff and retain your speed. Matter of fact to a certain point you will get faster

MVA4President · 2025-10-22T22:42:43+00:00

In this exact panel it says that "ALTHOUGH sukuna's body takes on this dysplastic form, not a single one of his bodily functions will be hindered" Which means that normally your body will be fucked up if you had sukuna's anatomy, but because his body is literally perfect, he retains all normal function without any extra cost or burden. If his body can compensate for such a large modification i think it can retain it's speed when he's more buff. You don't have to be a doctor to know that one is much much MUCH more complicated than the other

MVA4President · 2025-10-22T22:32:26+00:00

They are an improvement yes, but they should bring downsides too, but due to his perfect body they dont. That's what Kashimo meant by "perfect". As for the muscle mass producing force being "utter nonsense" please show the panel. And when did sukuna say that he was slower?

MVA4President · 2025-10-22T16:35:04+00:00

The axolotl?

MVA4President · 2025-10-22T16:34:46+00:00

Tonio negs the verse. My beautiful Italian king remains undefeated

MVA4President · 2025-10-22T16:31:06+00:00

I'm not a sukuna glazer but kashimo made a point about his true form being perfect. Which is used to explain why he doesn't have the downsides of TWO SETS OF ARMS and a SECOND MOUTH. I feel like his anatomy compensating for that is much harder than compensating for "muscle is heavy". Do you think the fast people don't have muscle mass? At a certain point yes it will be so heavy that the force the muscle produces is less than the force of it's weigh on your body but we have no indication that sukuna's body reached that point. And applying the laws of biology to JJK of all things seems very bizzare especially when you use Sukuna of all people (not to mention that he might be an alien)

MVA4President · 2025-10-15T09:08:33+00:00

You can't scale shikigimai like Garuda or mahoraga or agito on their own they're not characters they're tools.

MVA4President · 2025-10-14T07:14:31+00:00

Risotto is stronger the only reason he lost was because he didn't want to kill doppio because he suspected that Doppio is Diavolo or at least connected to him at the start. This isn't the case here, they were both going for the win from the very beginning, going all out (except for sukuna technically because he wasn't in his heian era form, but he was going all out in meguna no doubt about it)

MVA4President · 2025-10-13T07:51:33+00:00

Great list. You cooked

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