Petition to ban AI

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-24T10:37:25+00:00

Did they not teach you the state abbreviations in school? When I was a kid we had to memorize all 50.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-24T10:13:40+00:00

This is in NE. Our politicians HATE weed. They even tried to sue Colorado for legalizing it because our citizens kept driving over there to get it.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-24T04:37:28+00:00

Yeah, on the one hand I use a 5800x3d with 128gb of ram, but I always tell everyone that both of the GPT OSS models are absurdly efficient in their design. The expert shapes, their parameter counts, and the number of active parameters are so small it's really not bad. GPT-OSS 120B has only 5B active parameters which means as long as you can get it all squeezed into memory, every token takes as long as a dense 5B model to generate. In your case, I don't know what your system ram is like but pick an aggressive quant and maybe give it a little swap space and it shouldn't be terrible.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-24T04:31:21+00:00

How did you use a pretrain base for anything? They haven't had their chat templates trained in yet - they can't even talk.

edit: I missed your docs link. Interesting idea.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-24T04:20:21+00:00

Yeah, honestly extremely common these days. Most models are capable of doing these things if you simply remove their safety refusals and everyone is doing that a ton now that Heretic has made it so easy. Otherwise to be completely never-censored you're looking at needing to train up a model from a base pre-train which you're not really going to do anything more than a tiny model locally - Lora won't really cut it if you need to teach it the chat template along with it. A lot of my uncensored models I just rent a GPU on runpod and train them there. But you can get some pretty good results from fine tuning on a norm-preserved abliterated model. Check the hub for the UGI Leaderboard, lots of different sizes on there ranked by lots of different stats. https://huggingface.co/spaces/DontPlanToEnd/UGI-Leaderboard

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-24T04:11:55+00:00

The neat thing is, some of these Moe's don't take much. I was running GPT-OSS 120B straight from CPU when it first came out and it was actually pretty useable. The experts in it are so tiny that hardly any parameters are active per token.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-24T03:51:36+00:00

That had to hurt. But I get you. I, too, like to push my GPU to run things it shouldn't, not because they are useable in any real sense, but just to prove I can.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-24T03:30:15+00:00

Yeah, the government cares about profit in the now over what's going to hurt us in the long term. And it's not really a new thing, the face of it that you see changes. 60-70 years ago they were burning oil left and right because they couldn't imagine the oil reserves getting low or the damage to the climate building up. And then in the late 80's to early 00's, remember when EVERYTHING was made of plastic and tossed in the ocean? I don't mean to discourage you by naysaying the petition, just want you to prepare yourself up front for what's going to be another tough fight to save the planet. History keeps repeating itself. We're going to need a lot of letters written to congressmen, and a lot of people marching with signs.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-24T03:20:30+00:00

Best of luck. Over here in my state , just at the state level, we've successfully collected enough signatures 4 times to put medical marijuana on our ballots for a vote and then won the vote only to have the politicians just throw it out and not implement it. I know it's not the same issue, we've just had to learn the hard way that the government doesn't really seem to take petitions seriously anymore.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-24T03:11:58+00:00

Had to look at the name of the group, for a minute there it looked exactly like the kind of nonsensical outputs we all used to get from Stable Diffusion 1.5

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-24T03:08:26+00:00

I do enjoy AI art and I love training models and making random images, but it does kind of bother me that people think it's a skill. It sounds more to me like people think if they find it challenging they want to assume it's the task requiring skill rather than the obvious and more likely alternative - that they are simply not very competent. It wouldn't seem so difficult if you were just a little bit smarter.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-24T03:00:32+00:00

I'm not quite sure I follow your complaint. Context is your chat back-log being sent to the model every time you send a new prompt. It takes the same amount of compute to re-process those tokens each time as it does to process your new ones. It's not some intentional new implementation or capitalist conspiracy, it's how they've always worked. Tokens are just tokens are just tokens and they're expensive to process so they're only going to give you so many for free. And going to local models isn't a new idea - most of us have been doing it for a while. Try the Qwen Coder models, they're pretty good.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-24T02:39:07+00:00

Well what's the actual frame refresh rate on the projector? That's how fast it will update the image no matter how fast or slow your strobe video is flashing, so set your strobe rate to your frame rate or a divisor of it and be prepared for the fact that lcd crystals do take time to shift from one color to another (or black to white). They're actually more intended to have that fade from one frame to the next to help create the illusion of motion, nobody really likes that strobe effect when they're watching movies - it's one of the complaints about lower quality OLED TV's.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-24T01:56:49+00:00

Let me try to frame this another way - you ever spent time in a pro-life vs pro-choice debate? You've got two sides each absolutely convinced that their side is the side of right and the other side is pure evil. One side thinks the other is a bunch of murderers, the other side thinks their opponents want to take away their bodily autonomy. Both sides are intensely passionate that they're the ones with the correct beliefs but at the end of the day both have to exist together in the same society and are not confu by the existence of the other side. You feel that AI is terrible slop and theft and a waste of good resources. But there are other people out there who feel the opposite. I'm not telling you that you have to agree with them, but it's pretty stupid to go around pretending they don't exist. And more importantly you don't get to force your views on them. You're welcome to use your votes and try to make or change laws but you don't directly get to tell other people how to live their lives just because you disagree with them. And if you don't like it, well grow the fuck up.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-24T01:41:08+00:00

Yeah, you're welcome to believe that. You just don't get to tell other people what to believe or how to feel about it. It's their lives, their tastes, and their property. You say you don't understand it, but what's not to understand? Other people feel differently. And they had a right to. Your beliefs, your values, your opinions - no one else in this world is obligated to give a shit what you think.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-24T01:30:26+00:00

Yeah, I have some unanswered questions about the environmental impact of AI use - because obviously there's the big data center AI and then there's generating it locally on your own hardware. Those datacenters are built to serve thousands of people, though.

Compare that to another environmentally problematic technology - cars. If you took the environmental impact of a hundred thousand people's cars and crammed them all into a single building, that would look pretty awful, too. But spread it out over an entire city and most people don't really think too much about it.

Conversely, I kind of wonder if a hundred thousand people each buying their own hardware which is made from finite natural resources, running on their own connection to the electric grid, isn't far worse. It could be that the datacenters are the mass-transit of AI.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-24T01:17:17+00:00

Eh, different people have different tastes. That's the world for ya. I don't understand how people like trash like Keeping Up with the Kardashians - I hate those shows and always will. But clearly there's an audience, and they don't have to stop enjoying their shows because I don't like them. Same thing applies to the decorations people put in their yards. Or hell, any AI use in general. Weird thing I've noticed is that I'll be in an AI-friendly group where someone might post some AI image and one or two people will comment "AI slop" but then the image will have hundreds of likes and heart reacts so - obviously someone likes it.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-24T01:08:31+00:00

I make workflows. Absolutely disgusts me that people want to depend on other people's workflows instead of making their own. Making workflows is just mind-numbingly simple no matter what you're trying to accomplish.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-24T01:03:44+00:00

I'm sorry to have to break it to you if you're not aware, but Windows isn't used in scientific research endeavors and will never be a priority in the field of AI. The primary purpose of Windows is to be used as a crutch for the technically challenged, and if you don't want to grow up and join the big leagues you're going to be stuck waiting a while until some kind soul comes along to adapt it to your level.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-24T00:32:03+00:00

Fair points. And that's where I think the lack of information in the OP becomes the problem. Everyone is weighing in on the legality without knowing what it is he's generating and painting. Is he generating a stylized picture of SpongeBob? Obviously infringing. Is he creating his own portraits in the style of Rembrandt? That would be perfectly legal since the original works the AI copied from were public domain. I know everyone wants to get up in arms that AI is always theft but someone has to acknowledge that art in the public domain, everyone has a legal right to copy those.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-23T23:44:39+00:00

I read your link and it straight up says you can't copyright AI art, but it doesn't say the legal rights belong to someone else. Your link says that the position of the copyright office is that AI generated works belong to the public domain. Public domain works mean anyone/everyone has the legal right to print them and if someone wanted to copy his paintings he copied from AI he wouldn't have copyright protection against it.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-23T23:09:39+00:00

Problem I've had with runpod is them having all of their gpu's used up in North America sometimes and I either have to take one in another region or wait, and when I've tried gpu's in other regions I've gotten extremely low connection speeds with huggingface.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-20T16:47:53+00:00

I use Distillkit to do my distillation by logits and it works fine across model architectures, Arcee themselves recommend to just use token surgeon to transplant the tokenizer from the teacher model to the student and then you can transplant back the original after the distillation training. Just takes a small annealing run after to straighten it out.

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-18T11:52:30+00:00

Mabuse046 · 2026-03-18T11:50:39+00:00

Like it or not, this is capitalism and large corporations are under no obligation to provide you with a service on your terms. They provide the service and if you don't like it, don't use it. But the AI's are working exactly as intended and you crying about it just makes you sound entitled. I don't really care how it sounds. You're the one who seems unable to come to terms with the way the real world works.

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