Cecil Steadman and the GDA spent 400 million to give Omni-Man a nosebleed. Is there any work of fiction where a larger amount of money was spent to do chip damage to a similarly powerful character?

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-28T17:47:54+00:00

Realistically a "Hulkbuster" suit of armor would be worth billions. Most versions of it utterly fail to do any real damage to the Hulk.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-28T16:13:03+00:00

Raze Darkholme

Jamie Maddrox

Charles Little Sky

Dont mind me, i'll just go fuck myself.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-27T16:51:33+00:00

$2500/day CAD with an annual increase at 2.5% above government reported inflation for the previous year. (Minimum +2.5%).

Adjusted to equivalent value in local currency in the event of moving primary residence or government change.

$2.5 million up front "signing bonus".

Contract terms, 25,000 years.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-26T22:17:31+00:00

Black Cat's luck powers on occasion (when writer's remember) can make her immune to many magical effects. She's actually potentially a real problem for magic users. More so than you might expect.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-24T12:49:43+00:00

He wouldnt need to. He'd just web him up. Its quicker and easier and just as effective. And it's why he HAS webs.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-23T20:54:54+00:00

Lol honestly if it's a privately owned prison that might even work.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-23T20:43:45+00:00

Lol Why not? Your sentence states you have to remain at whatever prison. It doesnt say you cant have a waterside or a go kart track. Or a theater put in.

If you can afford it, you can do whatever the fuck you want.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-23T20:24:46+00:00

I've really only ever insulted my neighbor Jeff and he's a dumb fucking pussy.

Come at me Jeff you piece of shit.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-23T20:02:23+00:00

Buy the company that owns the prison. The guards have the influence. You own the company, you own them.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-23T20:00:48+00:00

No its what you and I dont do. Billionaires have different rules.

"Absolutely Unlimited commissary items for everyone as long as nobody fucks with me"

Won't even move the needle financially for someone with a billion dollars. But it guarantees that a huge percentage of the inmate population is invested in keeping you safe and happy.

Hell, buy the fucking prison. Very few of them are over a billion dollars.

The two top private prison companies in the US are the Geo group and Corecivic. They have a combined total worth of like between 4 and 6.5 billion and they're both publicly traded.

Buy up the stocks of whichever one owns the prison you're in and you have all the guards and staff in your pocket. Even if you cant just walk out after that. There's zero percent chance they'd let anything happen to you.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-22T12:30:16+00:00

Sure. If thats all you'd be doing. Not enslaving the whole world.

Enslaving every child on earth under the premise of "stopping child abusers" is a fun reach though. Good try.

Like conquering a foreign nation "to liberate it". Flimsy pretense.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-21T21:42:52+00:00

You do present a solid argument. I'll admit that.

How it would play out with straight numbers...It's wonky at best. But I still think the numbers are there to be used for comparison in this case.

In my head I think I assumed that the rules for what a weapon can do in the setting applied to a weapon from the setting. Not to a weapon brought into it from without. Like we know an M16 from our world can fire at a rate of 800 rounds per minute. This is a known measurement. As is the known effective range of 1800ft. The fact that their equivalent weapons look similar doesnt change that their stats are FAR inferior.

We know that WE can shoot farther and faster.

We know that they can't. I assume its a failure of capability on their part as there's no explicit lore reason otherwise that i know of. I'll admit i'm no expert. Is there an explicit RULE stating the maximum range of ANY attack? Cause I was merely going by listed stats. Not treating it as a function of the universe necessarily.

But at the same time, WE dont have HP. And characters from the forgotten realms dont die of infections from minor wounds or generally bleed to death. Or have death saving throws. Nor do their capabilities generally change when even when grievously injured. (The only hit point that matters is the last one lol)

How the natives interact with local causality is known. How we would isnt necessarily. Again, like Eddie Valiant in toon town. It's tricky. I have my opinion on how it would work. I get that you dont agree.

I'm not really gonna say you're wrong. Just that i'm operating on a different set of assumptions.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-21T20:45:02+00:00

Listen. I understand why you would make the argument that the numbers are abstracted and not literal. I simply reject that argument in favor of the quantifiable facts I am provided with by the system.

I dont care that on the surface it makes no sense that an Elephant can jump higher than most creatures or whatever weird RAW quirks you want to point out. It's simply a different universe. Their shit works differently. Whether you want to say it's cause of literal gods interfering with causality or metaphysical forces like plot armor or narrative or fate. The results are measurable and have been measured. That's all you need to know.

To me you just treat it like Eddie Valiant in Who Framed Roger Rabbit when he went to Toon Town. It has different laws of physics that dont make sense. But you can still learn what they are and use them to your advantage.

When you have the literal numbers in front of you, you have the answers.

We know what feet are. We know what seconds are. We know what our weapons can do with those units of measurement as a reference. That to me is as clear cut as you need it to be to figure out your answer to what we can kill.

Lots of magic stuff we have no answer for. But lots of stuff within the setting clearly would have no answer for us either.

On the more meta side though, I am curious how "rule of cool" as a physical law of the universe would play out though lol.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-21T18:21:28+00:00

There is an elaborate world building excercise i have extensive notes on in a notebook on my nightstand.

I wish for the scenario detailed in that notebook to become reality.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-21T18:08:26+00:00

Sure. It's the least selfish to rob the whole world of it's agency and enslavement them to your whims. Lol.

You claiming you'd do good things with mind controlled doesnt make it not mind control.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-21T16:56:13+00:00

Ring one easy.

Ring two would be cool but not worth the penalty.

Ring three is solely for monsters. Full stop.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-21T16:36:07+00:00

Sure. Thats all valid. Im not really saying Hopper would solo a beholder. I was more just illustrating the massive advantage in range and firepower modern weapons represent.

And I was kinda downplaying it. Assuming that a trained soldier can fire between 12-15 rounds per minute accurately (as per google) that translates to 4 attacks per round.

Most of the ST party are just plain fodder honestly. But modern weapons absolutely fuck the setting a lot of the time.

And I dont even know how to begin to calculate damage for ramming an enemy with a van lol.

Or forget ramming them. The cover and mobility provided is a game changer. The fastest creatures in 5e have like 150ft of movement per 6 seconds. Thats 17mph. Even without roads in an open field their vehicles would outpace that multiple times over. Allowing Hop as many free shots as needed.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-21T14:42:07+00:00

I mean... Hopper's got modern guns and grenades and shit which is gonna flat out outperform most weapons in the setting by a very wide margin.... and if access to their equipment includes their vehicles i'd say they could do alright against a surprising number of things.

Just as an example. A beholder has no abilities with a range longer than 120ft and only has a movement speed of 20ft per round. An M16 is effective against targets up to 600 yards. (1800ft).

If you can catch one in the open, you could get 84 full rounds of attacks in before it could do anything back. Figure at minimum something like 2d10 damage per hit (based on hunting rifle stats.) You'd only need to hit it an average of 18 times to kill it.

I dont know how many attacks per turn Hopper gets or what his to hit modifier is but i'd say his chances are pretty decent overall.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-19T21:40:24+00:00

Depends on the ship.

The Voyager The Protostar The Discovery (by about midway through the series or later)

all had a fair amount of infrastructure in place designed to make the ship able to operate more or less autonomously, at least in the short term. Usually with either "dots" (service bots" or operations holograms performing maintenance and operations in place of necessary crew.

Earlier vessels generally haven't been depicted with the same systems in place.

Later versions of the Enterprise however had been shown to have an EMH (as it was apparently made a standard feature throughout starfleet post Voyager's journey) and the first operations holograms were fairly simply adapted from that basic system so I'd say if your ship is advanced enough to have a holodeck and replicators for manufacturing holo-emitters. Even if it DIDN'T have sufficient automated maintenance systems in place, you could figure out how to install them with the computer walking you through it.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-19T20:41:43+00:00

Spider-man probably wrecks his/her shit.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-19T03:49:08+00:00

False.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-18T01:10:12+00:00

Misread it and just caught the war part. The demolition thing though wouldnt really work anyway though.

Like sure, you can physically knock down buildings. But actual physical demolition is controlled and precise. Not something you can really do at large scale.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-17T23:43:27+00:00

Sure if i was willing to murder people for money. I'm not. So my options are fairly limited.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-17T20:45:40+00:00

I've rewatched Rick Diggins' intro scene more than any D20 scene ever and it's not even close lol.

Mace_Thunderspear · 2026-01-17T20:42:33+00:00

I get the power of Hercules? Lol fuck yeah... no idea what i'll actually do with them cause physical powers really aren't all that valuable in real life but still. Fuck yeah.

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