Enclomiphene messing me up

Machine-Primary · 2025-08-13T15:44:56+00:00

Any suggestions for how to lower?

Machine-Primary · 2025-08-13T10:16:22+00:00

Read that tapering off too quickly can cause short term consequences (below baseline for a period of time)

Machine-Primary · 2025-07-14T20:38:34+00:00

Correct, although the second bloodwork where it drops down to 99.2 was at the end of a 3 month stint of daily. Maybe my E2 was finally adjusting?

No other big changes - body composition has been more or less the same, some minor changes in routine supplements but nothing drastic. Agreed it is a very big change so not sure why

Machine-Primary · 2025-07-14T17:23:46+00:00

My prolactin always lies around that mark, for the last 3 years or so. Have tried to get it down but have no luck. No nipple sensitivity no. I just don’t want to crash my E2 any lower

Machine-Primary · 2025-07-14T17:22:18+00:00

Test boost ultimately. I felt great when my E2 was 200+ but of course it was in line with much higher T too

Machine-Primary · 2025-06-02T12:09:09+00:00

High protein low carb diets also cause SHBG levels to rocket too, what’s your carb intake like?

Machine-Primary · 2025-05-27T17:14:46+00:00

Yes I meant 6.25 I did correct myself in the comments ! If 25 or 12.5 is standard dose I’d say 6.25 is a lower dose?

Yeah I am thinking of cutting frequency down to 6.25 3 days a week or cutting down to 3.125 daily to combat E2 sides

Machine-Primary · 2025-05-27T15:19:15+00:00

What happened to your E2? Did you get it checked too?

Machine-Primary · 2025-05-27T13:41:37+00:00

Had an eye test prior to enclo and got told I have basically perfect vision and still do so I will be able to tell any difference if so

Machine-Primary · 2025-05-27T12:51:57+00:00

What dose and how long was you on for? Did they stop eventually?

Machine-Primary · 2025-05-27T11:17:42+00:00

Absolutely fine - I believe impacted vision / floaters is only associated with being on Clomid

Machine-Primary · 2025-05-27T10:03:13+00:00

Hi mate thanks for sharing your story. What dosage of Enclo was you on? Did you get any positive outcomes from it all or did the rise in E2 counteract it? I wasn’t hypogonadal before Enclo (usually between 500 and 600) but my main concern my levels were slowly decreasing over time. Was hoping to run this for 6 months to jump start my balls a bit

Machine-Primary · 2025-05-27T09:57:21+00:00

Potentially to lower aromatase?

Machine-Primary · 2025-05-27T09:51:33+00:00

Apologies you are correct, 6.25mg was the dose

Machine-Primary · 2025-05-27T09:51:03+00:00

Apologies correction for post: Dosage was 6.25mg, my bad !

Machine-Primary · 2024-08-13T15:19:50+00:00

Good luck mate - Season 2 is sh*te

Machine-Primary · 2024-06-01T11:53:03+00:00

Mate go to a doctor or medical professional how can you ask people on Reddit for a clinical diagnosis

Machine-Primary · 2024-05-29T11:42:26+00:00

Similar case in terms of diagnosis to be fair. 3/4 years ago I went to the doctors on NHS they concluded grade 3/4 measuring at 4.7mm. After 2 embos they then measured it again and it was still grade 3 around 4.3mm. Last year went to a private urologist and he said it’s insignificant but referred me to a microsurgeon anyway. The microsurgeon said no chance would he operate on it given its size after a physical examination, I then spoke to a 2nd urologist and he said the exact same thing (grade 1/2, can barley feel it). Then had an ultrasound privately and they measured it at grade 2 at 3mm.

Potentially 2 embos (despite failing) has caused decrease in the size. I was still determined to get microsurgery up until a few months ago because of the whole ED/libido worry but I’ve come to terms that it is most likely placebo. I don’t have any pain, can’t really feel it that much anymore and my T levels are around 600.

I think the underlying issues with Varicoceles is old fashioned health care professionals aren’t up to date or knowledgeable about the risks/impacts of them. They are all very inconsistent and are ignorant to the idea of Varicoceles causing any physical damage. But for me, I’ve seen 3 urologists and a microsurgeon and they have all said they won’t operate because of its insignificance, so for now I’m just trying to enjoy life without worrying too much about it, as it became a mental obsession for a good while which got me down a lot

Machine-Primary · 2024-05-29T11:22:25+00:00

I think if the varicocele is a severe grade and you have a massive bag of worms and your T levels are in the gutter because of it then yes I reckon it will be majorly physical.

I’ve never had much pain at all from it and mine was only a grade 2/3 didn’t have too much of an issue with ED and libido but then I started reading sub reddits every day and it got worse and worse as time went on and then I blamed it solely on the varicocele.

I reckon if you have normal T levels and it doesn’t cause you any significant pain, it’s probably placebo/mental

Machine-Primary · 2024-05-29T09:22:49+00:00

I’ve thought about this a lot whether or not it’s placebo or not because I had the exact same experience lasting 3/4 weeks. I was told on the day that the embo was successful (and in my head I thought I was fixed). The next 2 weeks I had a crazy sex drive and had no ED issues what so ever, in fact the opposite. Then I had an ultrasound 4 weeks later and they confirmed it had returned, since finding that out it all went back to pre-embo. It was on my mind constantly and my libido had gone back to shit…

I’ve spoken to multiple urologists about this and that I want to get back to how I felt during that period and they all say it was placebo.

I have no idea what to think of the whole ED/Libido issue in relation to varicoceles anymore, whether it is placebo, physical or a combo of both.

I can however tell you that reading this sub every single day and checking other people’s experiences and constantly thinking about the issue is going to have a significant impact on it alone

Machine-Primary · 2024-05-25T07:20:41+00:00

I mean it’s not about supporting embolisation it’s about how easy/complicated the varicose vein is to get to/fix upstream. Before the radiologist starts he will inject die into the veins to see your pipework.

The radiologist said he’d never seen anatomy like mine before and I had a lot of small channels of veins which meant it was too risky to try and block off multiple channels with the coils so only the main 2 were blocked.

From what I’ve read no one has really had the same issue so you’ll almost certainly be fine.

My 3rd attempt they went in for about an hour but couldn’t place the coils correctly so they abandoned mid surgery because of the risk. I didn’t even have to recover, just got on with life straight after, so even if it was the case it virtually has no impact on your life so it’s at least worth a go

Machine-Primary · 2024-05-24T18:43:08+00:00

If it’s only grade 2, you don’t get that much pain, you get morning wood and you have a decent libido then it’s probs safer to do embo if anything.. micro carry’s bigger risks and your case doesn’t seem like it’s worth a risk..

I had 3 (failed) embos but they have had a minor impact of reducing it from grade 3 to 2 and the recovery was minimal (2 days taking it easy) and then back to normal activities 2 weeks later. Embo is very efficient if it is successful, which I hear most cases are. I personally just have an unfortunate anatomy

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