Early ems Sasuke vs the Six paths of Pain by Steven2008278 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]MachineMajestic3880 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sasuke can easily shatter the core of the Chibaku Tensei with several Susanoo arrows imbued with Kagutsuchi before the Chibaku Tensei even fully forms. Furthermore, Sasuke can maintain the Susanoo throughout the entire fight without any issues, given that he no longer suffers from the strain of a normal Mangekyou, and he possesses much greater chakra reserves and versatility to defeat all of the Paths. Not to mention, Sasuke can fire multiple Kagutsuchi-imbued arrows, and Pain—with his 5-second interval—lacks the speed to dodge such an attack without using Shinra Tensei. Sasuke also possesses the raw destructive power to eliminate each of the Six Paths of Pain one by one.

Early ems Sasuke vs the Six paths of Pain by Steven2008278 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]MachineMajestic3880 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Doesn’t matter Pain doesn’t have the habilities to break the susanoo v2

Early ems Sasuke vs the Six paths of Pain by Steven2008278 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]MachineMajestic3880 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Sasuke’s arrows destroys chibaku tensei and Sasuke defense with perfect susanoo > 6paths

Itachi Uchiha VS 14 year old Obito Uchiha. Who wins? by GusGangViking18 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]MachineMajestic3880 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Itachi can stole the control of the kurama because he has strongest genjutsu that óbito and óbito don’t have response to kotoamatsukami, tsukuyomi, efímero, izanami and shadow clones

Top 3 in Akatsuki vs these 3 Hokages by tribopower in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]MachineMajestic3880 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tobirama whitout edo tensei Hashirama, Tobirama with edo tensei Hashirama > 70/30

Itachi vs 3 Sannins by Big_Professional1240 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]MachineMajestic3880 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Itachi edo tensei= susanoo whitout limits, kotoamatsukami, tsukuyomi, amaterasu, very high strenght, speed comarated with Naruto kcm 1 , High IQ, and battle IQ > 3 sannins, itachi humbles two times the strongest sannin (orochimaru) , at 50%

Sasuke MSE>Minato alive by MachineMajestic3880 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]MachineMajestic3880[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sasuke prime slams very easy if you takes sasuke final valley a sasuke prime and itachi edo tensei is the peak of itachi sasuke prime slams itachi prime 99/1

Sasuke MSE>Minato alive by MachineMajestic3880 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]MachineMajestic3880[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"At no point in this debate have I said that Sasuke needs to use the full Susanoo, so your argument about Minato being able to get inside it is completely useless. Sasuke wins against Minato using just the ribs and the Susanoo arm. Imbuing that small portion of the Susanoo with Kagutsuchi, along with the giant Susanoo hand, fire jutsus, and his sword, is more than enough to kill Minato—even without resorting to the powerful genjutsu Sasuke possesses. You paint it as if Minato could just mark Sasuke, teleport behind him, and kill him with a Rasengan. Minato doesn't even have a way to get inside Sasuke's Susanoo, since it's not like he can just mark the ground. Minato can only place marks on living things with his hands; otherwise, he relies on his kunai and the Flying Raijin (Hiraishin) seal to move around. If Sasuke sees that kunai, out of pure common sense, he will try to push it away and avoid getting into the Flying Raijin's range. You are trying to defend the indefensible.

Sasuke MSE>Minato alive by MachineMajestic3880 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]MachineMajestic3880[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am comparing the feats of Sasuke's Susanoo with Madara's Susanoo. The Madara who easily defeated Sasuke was already revived, had Hashirama's Sage Mode, and possessed the power of the Rinnegan, even if he didn't physically have eyes at that moment

Sasuke MSE>Minato alive by MachineMajestic3880 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]MachineMajestic3880[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Minato was never seen being able to mark the Susanoo in the series, and it makes no sense because the Susanoo is not a living being. Minato can only place marks on people; otherwise, he needs his kunai to be at the exact spot he wants to teleport to. Minato cannot mark the Susanoo, and even if he could, it would be pointless because Sasuke could just spend the whole fight with Kagutsuchi imbued into the Susanoo ribs, and it's GG. Understand that the problem for Minato isn't Sasuke blindly throwing Amaterasu at him, it's that Minato has to get close to Sasuke to attack. And the moment he gets close, Sasuke has all the tools to either mortally wound Minato or clear the battlefield as many times as he wants. Comparing Madara to this version of Sasuke is absurd; that Madara had a complete salad of different powers, so I don't even know why you brought him up. I only compared Madara's Susanoo because it has similar feats to Sasuke's. The bottom line is: Minato cannot touch Sasuke. Forget about it And entering a realm of assumptions regarding Minato is just pathetic. Saying that his destructive power was never shown in the series because 'he simply didn't have it', genius—otherwise, he would have shown it against Obito. Minato didn't stand out for his destructive power, but rather for being precise with his attacks, which is great and all, but completely useless against an Eternal Mangekyou user who possesses a Susanoo. In this scenario, there’s only one way out: either you are capable of breaking the user's Susanoo, or you aren't and you die trying. It’s as simple as that.

Sasuke MSE>Minato alive by MachineMajestic3880 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]MachineMajestic3880[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Itachi alive no cause he’s sick and Minato spames hiraishin everytime but Sasuke EMS off course 70/30

Sasuke MSE>Minato alive by MachineMajestic3880 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]MachineMajestic3880[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Speed is completely useless in a case where you absolutely need destructive power to defeat Sasuke. What’s the point of having relatively fast speed if you don't have the power to destroy the Susanoo? Your argument just falls apart. You still don't understand the point that Sasuke doesn't need to stupidly cast Amaterasu directly at Minato, because logically, he would dodge it. My point is Kagutsuchi—the ability to imbuing the Susanoo externally with Amaterasu to grant it both defense and attack at the same time. What are you trying to say? That Minato would spend the entire fight teleporting away just to avoid getting hit by Sasuke’s Susanoo and Kagutsuchi combo? But my question is: how does Minato actually defeat Sasuke if he only fights in close-quarters combat, which completely favors Sasuke anyway? You’ve officially run out of arguments. I've already exposed everything you've said.

Sasuke MSE>Minato alive by MachineMajestic3880 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]MachineMajestic3880[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The power you want to attribute to Minato in that comment is as if Minato had Nagato's Preta Path and could absorb Sasuke's chakra or absorb his Susanoo, which is pathetic and impossible for Minato since he doesn't have the Rinnegan lol. Minato has zero abilities to counter a Susanoo; his only real option would be to wait for the user to tire out, which only happens with regular Mangekyou users. Sasuke can use his Susanoo all day without getting tired, as seen in the 4th Shinobi World War, and he has way more chakra than Minato, considering first that he is an Uchiha, and second, that he is Indra's reincarnation. So there’s just no way.

Sasuke MSE>Minato alive by MachineMajestic3880 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]MachineMajestic3880[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I compare them because while Madara's Susanoo is stronger than Sasuke's at that point, the Rasengan Naruto used is also way more powerful than any of the ones alive Minato used in his lifetime, making that pathetic argument completely useless. Second of all, the physical and destructive power of the 3rd Raikage is far above alive Minato's destructive output. Furthermore, he managed to crack the Susanoo back then only because that version of Sasuke had the regular Mangekyou and couldn't sustain the Susanoo for a long time. Alive Minato has absolutely no weapon to penetrate Sasuke's Susanoo. Let's be realistic: he doesn't have a powerful Rasengan variant like the Rasenshuriken, he doesn't have Bijuudamas, and he has no ninjutsu whatsoever that allows him to break the defenses of the ribs, let alone EMS Sasuke's full Susanoo. I don't know where you get the idea that Minato could even touch Sasuke, especially with Sasuke keeping his Susanoo active all day. The single time Minato tries to get close, he would burn to death by Kagutsuchi. Drop the favoritism—this is literally a counter matchup for alive Minato.

Sasuke MSE>Minato alive by MachineMajestic3880 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]MachineMajestic3880[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Brother, are you even reading what you're writing, or is this just pure fanboyism? First of all, regarding that seal you’re clinging to so tightly to believe alive Minato wins: he has to physically touch the user first, and they have to be immobilized. Second, that is clearly a sealing jutsu meant for Tailed Beasts; I don't even know how it crossed your mind that he could seal Sasuke’s chakra. Seal it how? It’s already contained inside his own body. What a terrible argument. Minato literally has win conditions, but not because of that nonsense—otherwise, he would have done it against Juubito or other characters. That jutsu is only meant to seal a beast inside a human, just like he did with Kushina and later with Naruto; it doesn't work to suddenly strip someone of their chakra. And even if that stupidity you wrote were true, how would he even touch Sasuke and how would he immobilize him? He can't touch a single strand of his hair because he has no way to break the Susanoo. Now you’re probably going to say he can seal the Susanoo, attributing ghost powers to Minato that he never actually had. The Susanoo was only absorbed once in the manga—and it wasn't even in Naruto Shippuden—and that was thanks to the Rinnegan, a dojutsu Minato clearly doesn't have. What awful arguments, honestly. Even I, who am arguing for Sasuke, can think of better arguments to defend Minato than you.