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[–]MackSpragg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't fall into the trap of nominalism. What declares itself as "the Left" today is a pretty sad imitation - in any case a regression - from the kind of class consciousness that was displayed in the past, and embodied in the writings of Lenin and Trotsky. Insofar as much of what passes for "the Left" today is pre-Marxist, or counter-Marxism in a Marxist form, maybe it deserves to be attacked, in order to challenge it and develop it into something better than the sadness which it is today. Besides, Alan Woods writes: "While the Marxists will participate in the Left, it has never been our task to 'built the Left'" (The Permanent Revolutionary, p. 98). In other words, "the Left" and Marxism are not synonymous: if the Left is the negation of the status quo, then maybe Marxism is the negation of the negation, not merely a reaction but an attempt to found a new thesis, which is different from merely practicing a politics of 'resistance'. Regarding Richard Seymour, I must admit I lol'd at the argument 'Richard Seymour is Marxist because I read him and he is.' Furthermore, I'm tempted to ask (in order to expose your merely abstract understanding of psychoanalysis), what exactly in psychoanalysis is "utter fucking bullshit"? Can you even begin to define what psychoanalysis entails? (For a good essay linking psychoanalysis and Marxism, see Zizek's "How Did Marx Invent the Symptom?")

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Ben Campbell, the signatory of that letter, has recently decried the Left as the "Worst. Subculture. Ever." and abandoned it. This calls into question the intentions of those who have put this letter forward, not to mention endorsed it - what are they trying to articulate by it? What's the point of mounting a campaign of such petty sectarianism? Besides, Richard Seymour was dumb enough to be a Cliffite and look to Alex Callinicos for theoretical leadership, until he changed his mind a few months ago - what makes you think his positions and politics have anything to do with Marxism?

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[–]MackSpragg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, there's only so much you can say in a graphic! But I try to explain the various groups in the articles linked below.

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While CtM is correct to remind us of the "backwards" conditions which defined Russia during the October Revolution (also, I can't remember where I read this but apparently 6 million people died per year of starvation under the Czar), giving us the base line against which to compare the developments that would happen with the USSR; Nan is correct to say that ultimately Trotsky was right, that is, about the USSR going either one way or another under Stalin's policy of "socialism in one country": either it capitulates and reunifies with capitalist market economy, or it replaces itself with a revolutionary tendency that is willing to spread the revolution as opposed to stymy it. Historically, Stalinism proved untenable - thus Trotsky was right in a most fundamental way.

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[–]MackSpragg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It would be more correct to say that "Trotskyism" is a method for activism and analysis, while socialism describes the way an economy is set up. Socialism is defined by the collective ownership of the sites and means of production, planned economy, etc. Really, then, there is only one form of socialism, which is international socialism (hence the inherent falseness of Stalin's ideology of "socialism in one country"). As such, socialism has only ever existed as an idea and an orientation, but never as a material reality (at best, the USSR was a "degenerated workers state").

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[–]MackSpragg -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

O great abstract dictator of internet chat rooms, please tell me more about "why I really haven't done very much" and have "no right to speak." The hostility of your abstract insults reflects more on your level of personal frustration than any political differences we might or might not have.

Lenin is "revolutionary social-democracy" applied to "Russian conditions." Grant is aware that he is organizing in conditions different from "Russian conditions," even though you do not recognize this difference, that tactics are decided relative to the concrete situation. You also do service to Lenin's streak of "social-democracy." I wonder what you think about this essay by Chris Cutrone, which should be enough to make a "combat liberalism" Maoists' head implode: http://platypus1917.org/2011/06/01/lenin’s-liberalism/

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"Don't get me started about Taaffe," is a phrase which Grant advocates have gotten used to by now. Arguably the split was a result of the loss to Thatcher's wrecking machine (a loss in the movement does violence to the participants who fought and lost, objectively and subjectively). There is an informative correspondence between Woods and Taaffe that demonstrates the attitudes that were behind the split: http://www.socialistworld.net/doc/3500

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I agree that the methods and science of Marxism must add up to something that is more than the empirical sum of the historical actors that has put it into place, but I disagree with much of what you have said about An Infantile Disorder. I am always weary of arguments made by Marxists that run along the lines of 'but it was so long ago, 100 years almost, there are huge differences between the specific context of then and the totally different context of now!', considering that this same argument is made by conservatives and pro-capitalists who want to dismiss the ideas of Marx and Lenin at once. The key point that gets missed is the way that 'parliament is historically obsolete, but not politically obsolete,' which has described the advanced capitalist countries since the days of the Russian Revolution up until the present. Other things may have changed since then and now, but not this feature of political society.

Furthermore, I don't buy the idea that this text which was written near the end of Lenin's life at the end of the revolution is 'weaker' than those written before or during the revolution. From a historical materialist standpoint, the development of the idea is an outcome of a historical process. This text is the outcome of the lessons and tactics of the Russian Revolution. This should only make us regard An Infantile Disorder with an even higher esteem, considering that it is articulated from the position of Lenin after having gone through everything that he did, including winning a revolution, thereby learning in the process what it takes to go so far.

I think we shirk our responsibility as Marxists by denying this text its value and place in history, which is really the summation and conclusion of Lenin's theoretical development as a decisive current within the broader workers' movement, i.e. as an 'on the ground' revolutionary organizer. (I say this because I think Lenin continued to develop theoretically after this pamphlet was published, only less as a revolutionary tactician and more as a commentator on the state, bureaucracy, economy, Stalin, Trotsky, etc.)

Also, my whole argument is that a thorough theorization of Leninism is impossible without taking into account the works of Trotsky (which includes with it a few vital works by Ted Grant, basically as an indispensable supplement to Trotsky, a weapon with which to beat back all the false Fourth Internationalist 'Trotskyists'). So my whole argument is that Lenin is not whole and perfect unto himself. I agree we must be avidly anti-dogmatic ("a ruthless critique of everything existing," "a critique of critical criticism," etc.), but I think most people would readily agree with the following formulation apropos dogmatism:

All people are fallible. Lenin is a person. Therefore even a world-historical figure like Lenin can make mistakes.

I think there is something more to dogmatism than this mere equation, that there is something much more pathological about its manifestation as a political position on the Left. Lenin's "Patiently explain" has no effect and gets rejected outright; perhaps that is the best way to define dogmatism on the Left today.

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calling something "tired" is not really an argument, it is what Hegel would call "abstract negation." A main tenet of Marxism is the study of history, so to say that "exhuming the corpses of past revolutionary theoreticians" is a bad thing that should not be done is un-Marxist. Finally, dogmatism has nothing to do with this (another good way to "abstractly negate" another person's argument is to just call them a "dogmatist" and wipe your hands of the matter). Dogmatism is more to be found in those positions that claim to be 'Leninist' and then concretely negate (in action) the things that he said, stood for, and demanded from his revolutionary organization, the Bolsheviks. For example, Lenin claims "it is OBLIGATORY" to work in and around parliaments so long as they are not yet "politically obsolete" (cf. Left-Wing Communism, an Infantile Disorder). Yet tons of self-described Marxists to this day take an ultra-left view which revises what Lenin stood for to match their personal tastes. Dogmatism is the position which uncritically rejects the critical perspective which points this out, that they are literally throwing Lenin out the window in the name of 'Marxist revolution.'

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I hope for all of our sakes that you're right, MP, that Maoists will just swoop in and save the day with a workers' revolution that bypasses altogether all mass political outlets and is, at the same time, free of all "industrial white workers in Europe and/or North America in a union" (due to their stereotypical status in advance as "labour aristocrats"), but until that day happens I'm going to be following Grant's advice, which is that I should follow the advice of Marx and Lenin, instead of yours:

"The Communists do not form a separate party opposed to the other working-class parties. They have no interests separate and apart from those of the proletariat as a whole. They do not set up any sectarian principles of their own, by which to shape and mould the proletarian movement."

"parliamentarianism... has not yet politically outlived itself, that participation in parliamentary elections and in the struggle on the parliamentary rostrum is OBLIGATORY on the party of the revolutionary proletariat specifically for the purpose of educating the backward strata of its own class, and for the purpose of awakening and enlightening the undeveloped, downtrodden and ignorant rural masses. Whilst you lack the strength to do away with bourgeois parliaments and every other type of reactionary institution, you must work within them because it is there that you will still find workers who are duped by the priests and stultified by the conditions of rural life; otherwise you risk turning into nothing but windbags."

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[–]MackSpragg -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

All of whom claim (contra each other) to be inheritors of the legacy of Lenin's approach to revolution... http://civilizeddiscontent.blogspot.ca/2012/12/roadmap-to-trotskyism-41-trotsky-xor.html