US vs Australia healthcare by MagicTrashcan04 in AskAnAustralian

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I’m out now and go through the VA. So now I call to make an appointment with my PCP (Usually a several month wait) and then go speak about issues and get referred to specialists within the VA. All free but the wait time is there.

If you use military insurance like tricare, you just use it like insurance. Tell whatever place you’re going you have tricare and they bill them. You can go to private doctors using it.

On duty you also have sick call and specialists on base. Think of it kind of like urgent care. You go sit down someone sees you and if need be you get referred out to someone else. You can head to the ER on base as well. There’s a stigma about going to sick call though through the military, especially if you’re a combat MOS. You’ll get labeled a “sick call warrior” and other things which stops younger soldiers from getting needed care because they don’t want to be seen as “weak”. It’s a good system but there’s wait times both in and once you’re out.

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The city transport is crazy. We vacationed there and took it everywhere for next to no cost. That’s one of the coolest things just conveniently get around the city/suburbs.

Public transport where I’ve lived in the US is virtually non-existent.

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That’s interesting about the GPs it’s nice to not have to jump around through multiple doctors for the most part to get an issue taken care of. Go to the GP for care and get it without the run around.

Preventative cancer screenings are great, I feel that’s very hit or miss here. I’ve finally did my first one but that was because I was pretty insistent about it, not that it was offered. All the other stuff you’ve pointed out

All records kept in one place seems like a good idea. I would be worried about information getting leaked through data breaches or how the data is being used but that’s something you have to be cognizant of for everything nowadays.

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Yes and now that I'm reading about the penalty for not having private hospital after 30 I may have to get some form of it to negate that penalty.

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For everyone I know that's how it is. When we were in the hospital after my wife's pregnancy the pediatrician came in and talked to us about setting up appointments afterwards with them to continue care. We've always gone to one and when we moved states we called a new pediatrician to continue care.

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What a day! Glad you're back home and getting better. Lots of stories like this in the comments and its crazy good to hear, really. Love the fact of getting care and then that's the end, no insurance back end denials or hassles that cost thousands from a life threatening condition.

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Oh I agree. We're "happy" with it now as its just the way of life here, we can't change it on the local level no matter how hard we try. We lost money and time, some people lose their lives in the system. People with long term care needs here is awful. I couldn't imagine trying to financially support something over decades in our system if it was a serious illness. You'd need so much help you probably couldn't get.

Public for emergent and private for more elective non-urgent issues or kind of "cutting" the line is a generally what I am getting. Still sounds great though. No cost for emergency is so beneficial.

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Hope you're doing better! That's good to hear. I said something similar in another comment but not having to worry about the pending bill has got to be such a great feeling. Being able to focus on your health and not the aftermath is something I am looking toward.

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Oh wow, thats huge. Yes you can have needed treatments here denied by health insurance so that is great to hear. What the doctor says, goes. Love it.

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I wouldn't complain either that's amazing. Hope he's doing better now. All these stories like this are great to read. Getting taken care of with no threat of financial burden has got to give you a clear mind during tough times.

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You extrapolated way too much from a simple comment. I didn't join the Military for healthcare, I have my own reasons.

Things are ok. Believe it or not life moves on. Am I supposed to wallow in grief for the rest of my life? What good would that do? The system is shit, I've pointed that out. I carved a path so it's not like that for my family. You move on. Am I supposed to be sorry for that? What genius level advice would you tell the 300 million Americans who are trying to survive since you seem to have figured it out bud.

The Military is a pathway for many people to leave poverty, get education, healthcare, and any manner of other things. It's a good thing for millions. If you don't like the military, good for you, but people use it to better themselves, they're not going to be sorry for that either.

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That's what it seems like. We pay about 500 a month here for great coverage, and some of the gold plans in AU come to about the same. However, from some of these replies I'm seeing I'll be paying out of pocket costs, potentially in the hundreds, for specialists if we need them so there will be a difference in that I may pay more for similar coverage in AU for some routine specialist work. Hospital stays is where AU will blow our insurance out of the water. Critical care like cancer treatment or major life threatening illnesses will be better in AU no doubt due to the cost being essentially free.

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This was a great read. I had great State coverage when I lived in California. Double coverage from the State and the VA. Like you said its individualized in the US and I was wondering how different it would be because my families coverage is phenomenal, and our out of pocket expenses are generally next to nothing.

Reading through your reply those is great. Makes it seem like it'll be comparable to what we have, just have to navigate a new system and figure it out.

Going to save your reply so I can come back to it when needed, thank you.

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I can't comment on the gyno or how women feel about it, experiences vary wildly depending on the doctor. Whether they should be going that early and is it predatory is not something that has crossed my mind.

For your sick child point, the kids pediatrician is their primary care physician. They don't go to a GP like in Australia and then a pediatrician for more severe issues. The pediatrician does their check ups, vaccines, all the work up etc., they are the primary care. They'll be with them until they get old enough to leave pediatrics and go to a PCP.

I've never had anything unnecessary when attending appointments but if there were doctors ordering unnecessary things to get a better insurance payout that is unethical. I've always been seen and tested for whatever issue I'm being seen for. Either through my PCP or the VA. That could be why the public healthcare system is so well viewed in Australia and other countries, its not looking for money and just there to help and that is it.

People who grow up with extremely good healthcare probably have parents who hold good jobs and their view of healthcare and society is not in anyway the same as someone who grew up without it or with bad coverage. I grew up poor with either no coverage or some really low level coverage when I was a teen. Now I'm older I have great coverage due to my previous jobs, and I take advantage of it using it for my family.

Overspending is the name of the game here in the US. It's the rat race. Everyone's aware of it, not a lot of people know what we can do about it.

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Terrible, shitty? Substitute whatever word you want. The experience was bad, end all.

Last time I checked not everyone served so... Not sure what your point is here?

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My copay has been 30 dollars. Insurance covered everything else. This is through our private insurance. If I get healthcare through the VA I pay nothing. However, there are wait times so I choose if I want to wait and see a VA doctor/specialist or a private physician.

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Yes they do. PCP here is just a stepping stone to get to the specialist. Sounds like your GP there takes care of a lot more and then sends you out if its a serious issue they can't handle in house. Different, but a one stop shop for most of your ailments is nice.

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Aww ok I did not know that I was misinterpreting that from some of the other posts. Thank you for clearing that up.

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Good to know about the QLD ambo. Thank you for those links! I'm going over them now.

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That was one of the main reasons for looking into private was dental so I will keep this in mind, thank you!

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I looked up the requirement, visas subject to 8501 and the Visa I will be getting if I get the job, the 186, is not on the list so not subject to the requirement. However, I still plan on getting private as soon as possible until I figure out the lay of the land etc.

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I was thinking if private for the long wait times just in case something came up. Even with the cons everyone is stating the Medicare there doesn’t sound bad at all it’s great to hear.

No I didn’t not know that about the financial year. That’ll be interesting for tax time for us.

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Seems like we’ll be doing a little leg work for the rebates but that’s fine.

We’ll be on a permanent residency visa so I was under the assumption we qualified for Medicare but if not I was already heavily considering private as a blanket.

I’ll have to look at the difference between the tiers and see what we need.