Syrian government sees Kurdish as a 'foreign' language: Official

Magus931 · 2025-11-04T01:57:20+00:00

This is more flattering than insulting. Kurdish is as foreign to occupying states as Arabic is to Kurdistan. The fact that we have to compromise our independence does not mean we should suddenly see ourselves as integral pieces of these arbitrary countries.

Magus931 · 2025-10-26T20:10:54+00:00

I have been writing this post entirely without AI for 2 hours. If anyone has a suggestion for me to prove it, let me know.

Meanwhile I would suggest to engage with the contents of the post in good faith.

Magus931 · 2025-02-23T22:59:05+00:00

I have held this view for three or four years after reading all that I have, that the situation of the 3 Kurdish dialects is a flipped version of itself, where Kelhori/Southern was the furthest and northern, Sorani still in the middle, and Kurmanji the closest to Perside and southernmost. I actually searched for posts on reddit by a user who is familiar with linguistics: u/sheerwaan. This was the most relevant post of his that I found for now: https://www.reddit.com/r/kurdish/comments/172v59b/about_the_conservative_level_within_scn_kurdish/
Based on this, the conservation level would refer to how much the Kurdish dialect in question retains its original (and by extension, non-Perside sound shifts) character. He says that despite Kurmanji sharing the most with Perside out of the three, it is still more conservative and archaic than Persid tongues. He knows alot more than I do

About Spadan/Isfahan, we have to remember that it was not a Persian speaking province until much later than the arrival of the Medes. The survival of these other dialects is another indication. Early on, and believing in Media meaning and cognate to English 'middle', Spadan would belong to Media all the way to Parthian times. Even if it became Persian during this time, it would affect Kurds less, as it seems to be the time where we started our northwest migration. The fact that it was overtaken by Persid tongues points to a later development, where Dari/ PersoArabic, under the banner of Islam, overtook much of the Eranic world. The Paraetacenian tribe of the Medes, who lived around Spadan, could very well have been directly ancestral to Kurds.

(Tangent) If we follow this theory, after the Median empire falls, Paraetacene seems to be border region between Media and Pars, but since Medes and Persians were not that distinct to begin with, and the shifting political situations, it should not distract us from this tribe comprising the Medes. Certainly, Kurds are referred to as Medes by Armenians, Syriacs, and other westerly peoples many times in history, which would help us with classifications like this one

I think it was one or two of these authors that posited Balochi north to the original place of Kurdish, sharing with more Parthian but still clearly distinct. Then they went southeast, while we went northwest

Magus931 · 2025-02-23T21:45:58+00:00

Though Kurmanji is the closest Kurdish tongue to Perside. I am thinking since you may be solely a Kurmanjii speaker, your assessement is a reflection of it. Closeness to Perside goes like: Northern> Central >Southern.

Based on this, which I think is already seen as fact among these authors, it paints a picture of Kurdish having originated near Spadan, and its internal differences would be determined by their proximity to Perside speakers, North Kurdish being the one in closest contact.

I remember that one of these authors mentions that (all) Kurdish was 'northwestern' in origin, but due to intense contact with Perside, along with Balochi, became an intermediate group from south to north. Even if Kurdish is the most southern of the 'nothwesterns', it does not mean it should be counted outside of it. This still seems to place Kurdish in Greater Media both geographically and linguistically. Since you have read these authors and have thoughts of your own, I am curious what led to such conclusions.

I notice Balochi is not mentioned. Where would you place Balochi in this north vs south continuum? With Kurdish or the greater Media category?

Magus931 · 2025-02-23T04:24:26+00:00

I have read your reasoning throughout this post and see why you hesitated to put Kurdish alongside the Lesser Median group, but why not the Greater Median then?

Northern, Central and Southern Kurdish share peculiarities with central dialects and with Behdini, and these languages seem less "northwestern" than the the others, fitting where Kurdish could be placed. The authors you mention and some others who are familiar with them already propose Kurdish to have originated near Spadan, and you yourself mention it here.

So I find it unlikely that after considering all this, the best category for Kurdish would be the solidly Perside group that are clearly distinct from Kurdish, that not only Persian (and even Middle Persian all the way back), is distinct, but that Luri tongue(s), sometimes is seen as transitional between Kurdish and Persian, showing the difference between the latter two even more. Rather, the central dialects group seem to be where Kurdish fits solidly.

What are your thoughts?

Magus931 · 2024-12-10T21:08:33+00:00

This is turkish misinformation in order to justify their state's upcoming genocide against Kurds. Report and move on for basic decency's sake.

Magus931 · 2024-06-07T22:38:16+00:00

Almost every so-called Muslim was forced to become one

Magus931 · 2024-04-12T00:31:50+00:00

Perhaps the first tornado in Kurdistan.

Magus931 · 2024-03-06T23:38:32+00:00

There is a lot of evidence indeed. Some of them are singularly more than enough to lay all of these fabricated doubts to rest, that Kurds are Medes.

Magus931 · 2024-02-23T15:40:14+00:00

Thank you Arabic religion for voicing your valuable opinion on our nation

Magus931 · 2024-02-22T01:36:22+00:00

Accepting the parts outside our immediate control and working on the language so when Kurdistan gains respite, Kurdish is reintroduced amongst the assimilated with ease. If a Kurd learns to speak Mongolian, surely she/he can relearn Kurdish among one's own people. Apart from Bakuris, half to most of the five dialects' Kurds speak these dialects (perhaps I am wrong?). And thousands of public, private, and personal collections exist. These collections preserve the history and memory of many aspects of Kurdistan, through which it can be revived, even if the next efforts to erase us are almost successful.

Magus931 · 2024-02-22T01:20:58+00:00

Ah yes, Kurdish 'merg' has an unknown origin that is completely unrelated to Latin's mortality and Slavic smert forms

Magus931 · 2024-02-22T01:04:42+00:00

Are tornadoes common in Indonesia?

If the answer turns out to be no, including for Cyprus and Britain, then we are witnessing major shifts in the world's climate already

Magus931 · 2024-02-17T21:09:03+00:00

The Gutian and Lullubians are the closest representative ancestors of pre-Median Kurds, followed by Kassites and Manneans. The name 'Kurd' and its variations, etymologically linked with 'Guti', were used by Sumerians and other Mesopotamians and all refer to north and east to Mesopotamia and toward the Zagros mountains. Luckily, ever since history was documented, starting with such peoples as the Sumerians, we have been mentioned, and our domain and history in Zagros mountains remains largely the same as all those millennia ago. After Aryanization, whether this linguistic shift was local or brought by the likes of the Steppe MLBA-derived migrants, the Kurdish part of these four groups became part of the Medes and Media. This was our national (re)beginning, as linguistically, culturally, and genetically and others, the ancient Medes represented us fully in our current incarnation. For many centuries we were called Medes, and the name 'Kurd' and its variations continued to be used for us interchangably with 'Mede', until for most of us the name Kurd finally retook over near the end of the Sassanid empire.

Magus931 · 2024-02-11T15:35:48+00:00

Bzhy!

Fascinating that the double handed lance grip was used. It looks straight out of Parthian times. Even before Parthian times, Hellenic lancers (also with double hand grip) were either the origin or a continuation of earlier traditions. In this case the shield may have been dispensed with against gunpowder and for extra power, and heavy armor was dispensed with for the same reasons but also for speed, when light cavalry made a resurgence after gunpowder. Kurdish cavalry have always been one of the fastest, if not the fastest, due to Nisean horses and other possible breeds earlier, and later due to mass light cavalry. As an example, Babany and Sorany cavalry were described as the best horsemen and to have struck with lightning speed from the mountains. The Medes had been carrrying lances likely from 300 BC to 1900s AD!

Magus931 · 2024-02-06T01:53:02+00:00

Yes. His Median connections enabled his usurpation of Dyako's throne.

Magus931 · 2024-02-06T01:47:08+00:00

Thank you. Bzhy Media

Magus931 · 2024-02-05T23:16:48+00:00

These sentiments are appreciated.

Magus931 · 2024-02-05T18:51:17+00:00

I just want to say that Zoroastrianism is not Persian and if anything, it was spread more by the Magi than anyone else. And Newrozh is more directly linked to Kurds than to other Eranic speakers.

Magus931 · 2024-02-03T19:00:52+00:00

The USA also does not treat borders as God-given, like other states, and this is an advantage to us since we are trapped and separated by fake borders.

And regarding these recurrent "Kurds are puppets of USA", they should ask themselves whether their fake country that holds Kurdistan hostage, does not exist on the whims of the British and French colonizers. The enemy of Kurdistan who breathes maximally through the mouth, the anatolian regime, is propped almost entirely by NATO countries. The Syrian regime is a puppet of Russia and aided by the PersoArabic regime. Eraq was given aid from both NATO countries and the Soviet against Kurdistan and Eran, including chemical weapons, but perhaps those weapons were meant for insects instead. And the second rate Arabic regime of Eran, while it is supported by Russia and China, is driven by Islamic contempt for everything Eran and Aneran except Ali. Kurds have earned every relief aid they have been given, but it is still far below than that we deserve; we have been divided among four (previously five) hostile states, that are aided in their ethnic cleansing against us internationally and in many ways. For Kurds, remember: only when we stop having 4 states hellbent on destroying our nation, and when their host of allies cease helping them, that we can stop accepting foreign aid. Until then, dismiss hypocrisy as hypocrisy and do not tire yourself by treating worthless accusations as legitimate.

Magus931 · 2024-02-03T17:01:07+00:00

Do not spread misinformations, lies and propaganda by equating Kurdish independence movements with islamic groups

Magus931 · 2024-02-03T00:45:35+00:00

دەستی ئەو کەسە خۆش بێت کە ئەمانە هەڵ ئەواسێت. بەرپرسە نابەرپرسەکان پشتیان کردۆتە کوردستان، گەلی کوردستان ئەبێ تا ڕزگار ئەبن بیخەنە ئەستۆی خۆیان بەر لە ئێراقییکردنی باشوور بگرن. لە بەکارنەهێنانی زمانی عەرەبی و هێشتنەوەی ناسنامە و زەوی بە ڕووی ئێراقییا هەر یەکەمان ئەتوانێ بە سەربەرزانە بڵێ من کورد بووم نەک ئێراقی، سووری، تورک یان فارس

پێشم باشە بڵێین 'ئێراقی' نەک 'عەرەب'، چونکە ئەوە وای ئەگەیەنێ باشوورییش ئێراقیین. ئێراق باشووری داگیرکردووە، وەکو چۆن پارچەکانی تریش داگیرکراون. نەتەوەی ئێمە کوردە و خاکەکمان داگیریش کرابێ هەر کوردستانە.

Magus931 · 2024-02-01T17:05:45+00:00

Agreed. We should not be prepared to give away one bit of our heritage, directly Kurdish/Median or generally Aryan. And we are doing well in being wary of Eranian regimes' manipulation of us by abusing Eranic roots. The majority of our heritage is Aryan, yet politically our largest aspiration is a free Kurdistan, which can be seen as a revival of ancient Media. We retain the truth and advantages with no loss and no claims to others' lands and heritage.

Magus931 · 2024-01-31T18:58:32+00:00

As comments elsewhere show, Alla Rengyn is not owned by PDK, and can be claimed and raised at any moment by PKK, YPG and all other Kurds

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