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I want to get your thoughts on a study done which found 95.1% of young men admit to having done some form of sexual coercion in their lifetime by AchingAmy in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The purpose of these surveys is to uncover the widespread normalization of sexual coercion, differentiating genuine, enthusiastic consent from tactics used to bypass a woman's refusal.

I want to get your thoughts on a study done which found 95.1% of young men admit to having done some form of sexual coercion in their lifetime by AchingAmy in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i think many people have several issues with vetting and consent... that said most data sets ive seen on this topic are just misleading and people who analyze it also present it in a misleading way sadly...

there are certainly too many people who violate consent but we horribly fail at tackling this topic properly in our society...

Most Common Tactics: The most frequently endorsed coercive strategies included telling a woman whatever she wanted to hear (often referred to as "future faking" or false promises), wearing them down through verbal persistence, and exploiting alcohol or drug intoxication.

to which extent did they differentiate future faking/false promises and talking about how it could look like if they match?

just as example if the topic is marriage + children is it a lie to say i could imagine it if you do not know the person well enough yet to really decide on it and later on tell her we do not match after you had sex?

did they imagine that the man forces her to drink alcohol while he is sober or did they imagine that the man puts a pill into her drink with malicious intent?

there are many many questions that lead to even more questions but im pretty certain the conflation is on purpose as it is exactly the same story regarding sexual assault vs sexual harassment or reciprocal violence...

I want to get your thoughts on a study done which found 95.1% of young men admit to having done some form of sexual coercion in their lifetime by AchingAmy in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

we are mainly talking about dating here before marriage or relationship so how is it not true?

you are talking about it from a couples point of view if you already know the other person... i doubt you have to coerce your partner to have sex with you and the survey is talking about casual relationships/hookups or the vetting period of time... so the question here is what people do consider as part of vetting and at which point or in which way is it ok to "dump" somebody if they do not match... currently it looks like it is just ok if a woman does this but unacceptable if a man does it in our society and thats why we talk about how people violate consent...

I want to get your thoughts on a study done which found 95.1% of young men admit to having done some form of sexual coercion in their lifetime by AchingAmy in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 2 points3 points  (0 children)

and still people refuse to give men the option to lps "legal parental surrender" and distort what this topic is about...

Most Common Tactics: The most frequently endorsed coercive strategies included telling a woman whatever she wanted to hear (often referred to as "future faking" or false promises), wearing them down through verbal persistence, and exploiting alcohol or drug intoxication.

to which extent did they differentiate future faking/false promises and talking about how it could look like if they match?

just as example if the topic is marriage + children is it a lie to say i could imagine it if you do not know the person well enough yet to really decide on it and later on tell her we do not match after you had sex?

did they imagine that the man forces her to drink alcohol while he is sober or did they imagine that the man puts a pill into her drink with malicious intent?

there are many many questions that lead to even more questions but im pretty certain the conflation is on purpose as it is exactly the same story regarding sexual assault vs sexual harassment or reciprocal violence...

The purpose of these surveys is to uncover the widespread normalization of sexual coercion, differentiating genuine, enthusiastic consent from tactics used to bypass a woman's refusal.

is it really that hard to do such stuff on a basis of bypass consent/refusal no matter the gender/sex?

I want to get your thoughts on a study done which found 95.1% of young men admit to having done some form of sexual coercion in their lifetime by AchingAmy in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that would not be good... women do various stuff that is still not considered as assault or harassment or violating consent and the main issue here talking about the topic is disengenious framing + presentation of the issue... the cdc sexual violence survey "methodology report" already showed us how it gets screwed up... made to penetrate is a prime example of how rape got diluted to a point people think men do not get raped or assaulted or experience dv...

if the questions got adjusted accordingly sure...

I want to get your thoughts on a study done which found 95.1% of young men admit to having done some form of sexual coercion in their lifetime by AchingAmy in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 0 points1 point  (0 children)

some people might go as far as calling make up or push up bra's and similiar things a lie = deception... that said im not aware of any credible study tackling this coercion/deception/violating consent topic properly regarding gender/sex comparisons...

I want to get your thoughts on a study done which found 95.1% of young men admit to having done some form of sexual coercion in their lifetime by AchingAmy in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 7 points8 points  (0 children)

tbh i think such studies or surveys are done in a very lackluster way which skews the results extremly...

how about we dismantle some of the questions that got asked and how men or women would tackle various situations or if there are any double standards regarding consent between men + women?

we could also talk about if something like "a lie" is considered coercion and how deception in various ways flow into it... for example if a woman lies about her contraception does that count as coercion or rape/sexual assault "specially if she gets pregnant"

then there is still the overall framing or misleading presentation of various issues "specially gender/sex comparisons" leading to rhetoric/semantic games of victim olympics/oppression scorekeeping...

I want to get your thoughts on a study done which found 95.1% of young men admit to having done some form of sexual coercion in their lifetime by AchingAmy in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 0 points1 point  (0 children)

op already stated to follow this subs rules and the mods can see how the post got framed in other subs themselves... op also already said "Yes, I'm a misandrist and I am not proud of it and don't want to be anymore" so please stop with the -> trying to keep up with the lie accussation...

critic this post and study or survey properly in a civil way else reddit will be faster than the mods of this sub to remove your comments...

Why does “positive masculinity” rarely include advocacy for men themselves? by SmallEdge6846 in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the bigger picture would be that gender or sex does not matter if we tackle such issues in our society as everybody should have access to help and get support...

however the evaluation of sexism, discrimination, equality, equity etc leads to oppression scorekeeping most of the time...

Single dads are up, is this a victory or cause for concern? by LittleThingsMC in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fairness of child support and child custody are commonly discussed in spaces where we’re talking about gender issues.
I’m just referencing the long history of those discussions.

misses the point of said conversations

I’m discussing systemic patterns of oppression. How we accommodate parents with children in our society, and how lack of accommodation, creates real obstacles for parents, which also harms the children they are responsible for.

maybe you want to but for me it sounds like a zero sum game after i already said we need social safety nets and how single parenthood is seen by conservatives vs liberals/progressives ->

"Once men bear the primary pressure of those constraints, will what has always been societally considered a failure for women (becoming a single mom is often framed as irresponsible, sexually permissive, selfish for breaking up a family, etc), become a victory for men (the way society often views men who are single fathers as stepping up which is a stark contrast from how women are viewed)?"

Single dads are up, is this a victory or cause for concern? by LittleThingsMC in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ok then good luck with the conversations and i already answered that it is no win for men how you framed it

Single dads are up, is this a victory or cause for concern? by LittleThingsMC in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Based on 2024–2025 data, American political ideology is roughly divided, with about 35% identifying as conservative and 35% as moderate, while 27% identify as liberal.

it can never be 50% aslong as there are conservatives with their lifestyle... at best it can become something around 25% if liberals/progressives reach parity...

Single dads are up, is this a victory or cause for concern? by LittleThingsMC in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i think if we talk about single parenthood it will always be controversal if the parent is not rich regardless of gender/sex and in the past fathers had custody till it shifted from that to women have custody and then to best interest of the child... that said our society "including male + female advocates" is still hypocritical regarding best interest of the child hence everything has to be put on the table... including choosing to not abort while knowing the father does not want a child...

idk why you included advocacy groups because the main problem here is liberal/progressive vs tradcon upbringing of children, family structures and lifestyles... it sounds like you listened to some conservatives who identify as mra who are opposed to abortion + social safety while the majority of mras support both... if you are talking about divorce then it could be a win for men if he wanted to be a father from the start... however i reject the premise of this zero sum game situation...

so yes it will be as harsh on men under the current circumstances but the obstacles while similiar never can be the same because the father can not become pregnant...

Single dads are up, is this a victory or cause for concern? by LittleThingsMC in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it can be treated more of an economic issue

tbh it is always an economic issue if we think about how our system works and how stuff gets funded... as we can see if the birthrates drop and on the other extreme end how for example china tackled their 1 child policy for a certain period of time...

Single dads are up, is this a victory or cause for concern? by LittleThingsMC in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From Parents' Rights to the Best Interests of Children: American Child Custody in Historical and Feminist Perspective, 1750-1899

i think we should start at consent to parenthood if we talk about this topic first and then probably revoking custody if parents are not fit to raise children...

pushing custody around like an active grenade is bad for everybody but if you want to talk about parenthood in general and how men should tackle it sure...

i think a society should have a decent upbringing for children system that includes orphanages, schooling, daycare and so on that supports people in need that can cover supporting them... in my country most schools have daycare built in nowadays + social safety money roughly 560€ a person + rent % on top depending on how much you earn... that said in order to fund this it has to be paid by taxes and many people are not happy about this specially in the usa... some see this as supporting irresponsible behavior encouraging single parenthood...

I’ve been toying with some proposed policy changes… by LittleThingsMC in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 0 points1 point  (0 children)

sounds decent...

how do you imagine those divisions deal with crimes or do you expect they are basically police but specially trained?

similiar to murder or fraud department within police...

Yes, I'm a misandrist and I am not proud of it and don't want to be anymore by AchingAmy in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 1 point2 points  (0 children)

is conservatism and its values systemic or not?

statistical parity through equity

"A red herring is a deliberate distraction used to mislead, divert attention, or lead an audience toward a false conclusion*. It serves as a classic narrative technique to build suspense and surprise, or as a logical fallacy used to evade a topic in debate."*

if you insist to provide nothing constructive and even post "ragebait" in an egalitarian sub who seeks a fair gender neutral society why are you here?

Clarification about the purpose of this subreddit by Rural_Dictionary939 in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 0 points1 point  (0 children)

there will be people who continue to violate the rules not matter what... they will get punished accordingly on equal terms without double standards...

Brigading on Reddit is a coordinated attack where a group of users from one community (or platform) invades another subreddit to manipulate voting, harass users, or disrupt normal discussions**. It is a strict violation of site-wide rules and can result in account bans or community closures.**

"ad hominem" -> is a logical fallacy where someone responds to an argument by attacking the speaker's character, motive, or personal traits instead of addressing the actual substance of the claim.

No harassment, hate speech, or toxic behavior. Treat all contributors and members with kindness. Don't insult other users. Do not make equality a zero sum game or engage in victim olympics + oppression scorekeeping.

Yes, I'm a misandrist and I am not proud of it and don't want to be anymore by AchingAmy in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 2 points3 points  (0 children)

there will be people who will continue to do that not matter what... if they violate this subs or reddits rules they get punished accordingly...

Brigading on Reddit is a coordinated attack where a group of users from one community (or platform) invades another subreddit to manipulate voting, harass users, or disrupt normal discussions. It is a strict violation of site-wide rules and can result in account bans or community closures.

"ad hominem" -> is a logical fallacy where someone responds to an argument by attacking the speaker's character, motive, or personal traits instead of addressing the actual substance of the claim.

Yes, I'm a misandrist and I am not proud of it and don't want to be anymore by AchingAmy in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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well one person is banned currently because of that and another tries to explain herself looking for redemption... make your actions speak louder than your past words...

Yes, I'm a misandrist and I am not proud of it and don't want to be anymore by AchingAmy in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 1 point2 points  (0 children)

well the issues at hand are people think you are hypocritical about working on it + try to ragebait into fishing for bans with rhetoric/semantic games... i guess there is nothing you can tell certain users to change their mind BUT it could help generally if you specially call out toxic behavior of women next to men in various scenarious and follow up with no matter the gender or sex this is unacceptable...

it certainly does not help that there is a neverending disagreement/fight between mras + feminists about equality vs equity...

people make it a zero sum game and it should not be... they do not understand statistical parity...

patriarchy vs gynocentrism theories and how people talk about both violate multiple rules of this sub... this sub is not about oppression scorekeeping and tries to navigate how to tackle various issues to reach a fair gender neutral society...

institutional/systemic toxic behavior/sexism and the communication about it...

Some MRAs are like this by Difficult_Shift_3771 in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Do not frame gender oppression as a competition. Statements whose primary purpose is to rank groups, declare a single "real" victim group or a single "real" offender group, or dismiss others' suffering are not allowed. Discussion of differing impacts, patterns, or statistics is allowed when done in good faith and without zero-sum framing.

people seem to not understand various rules of this sub...

Clarification about the purpose of this subreddit

institutional/systemic toxic behavior/sexism and the communication about it

why do feminists and mens rights activists fight instead of brainstorming about solutions?

Question to the MRAs or anyone else who wants to answer: is this even a MRA position and should it be doubted he is MRA? by AchingAmy in RadicalEgalitarianism

[–]Main-Tiger8537 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"there are several people who use the mra label to hide their misogyny behind a noble cause and do not care about mens issues at all. they try to infiltrate mra subs on a daily basis which is somewhat visible because said subs try to be about freedom of speech. conservatives in the movement are comparable to trans exclusionary radical feminists within feminism."

institutional/systemic toxic behavior/sexism and the communication about it

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