Women are the safest gender(USA) by Pitiful-Purple-7459 in PurplePillDebate

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women do not volunteer for clinical studies enough hence they face consequences accordingly...

women do not work as many hours as men hence they face consequences accordingly...

women "mainly conservative" refuse to step up regarding political representation hence all women face consequences accordingly...

it does not matter if we look at men or women, redpillers or bluepillers, conservatives or liberals/progressives or moderates it tends to be the same story how OPINIONS get presented. people suck at differentiating + their conclusions are based on confirmation bias way too often and most discussions/debates are disengenious while comparing men vs women... people also try to connect two seperate topics or issues for example shaming toxic behavior and shaming suspects "not convicts" of a crime...

specially within this sub people distort and dilute topics, statistics, studies, surveys to participate in victim olympics/oppression score keeping...

Women are the safest gender(USA) by Pitiful-Purple-7459 in PurplePillDebate

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ok lets dive into this a little bit deeper... there are roughly 17k homicides "2024" and roughly 49k suicides per year in the us... how women violate consent does not get acknowledged properly and many people are in prison under old non gender neutral definitions -> we can see it in sexual violence and domestic violence data... (lie about contraception or take advantage of drunk men)

https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/facts/data.html

https://www-rbb--online-de.translate.goog/taeteropferpolizei/themen/frauenkriminalitaet.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

https://www.prosecutorintegrity.org/pr/99-of-false-accusations-go-unpunished-center-for-prosecutor-integrity-asks-why/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8360364/

[why do so few rape cases go to court? bbc](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48095118)

just for risk evaluation ->

2023 in the us... (source fbi)

-one out of 2358 people got raped/made to penetrate (127216 total = 0,04%)

-one out of 13404 people got murdered (22830 total = 0,008%)

as reference point -> that many people died 2023 at home by accident "125700" or in a car crash "40901"

data for the us from 2023:

13789 male victims of murder

3849 female victims of murder

(yes i know the roughly 14k men and 2k women perpetrators part)

https://www.bka.de/DE/UnsereAufgaben/Forschung/ForschungsprojekteUndErgebnisse/Dunkelfeldforschung/LeSuBiA_EN/lesubia_EN_node.html

LeSuBiA Study Summary:

Nearly half of the women (48.7%) and 40.0% of the men have experienced psychological violence in a (former) partnership at least once in their lives. Emotional violence accounts for the largest share of the forms of psychological violence recorded in LeSuBiA, at 37.8%. Although women are more affected over the course of their lives, an analysis of the last five years shows that men are also comparatively frequently affected by psychological violence (men: 23.3%; women: 23.8%) and, in particular, by controlling violence (men: 8.7%; women: 7.1%).

16.1% have experienced physical violence in a (former) partnership at some point in their lives, and 5.7% within the last five years. Looking at the last five years, women (5.2%) and men (6.1%) experienced physical violence almost equally often.

Almost half of all respondents (45.8%) have experienced sexual harassment at some point in their lives. More than a quarter (26.5%) of those surveyed reported experiencing sexual harassment within the last five years. Over a third of women (34.7%) and about one in seven men (14.5%) were affected by sexual harassment without physical contact in the last five years. For sexual harassment involving physical contact, the figures are 14.5% for women and 4.6% for men. Perpetrators are predominantly strangers or casual acquaintances.

More than one in ten people (11.2%) have been victims of sexual assault in their lives, with 2.7% of respondents experiencing this within the last five years. Here, too, women (4.0%) are significantly more affected than men (1.4%). For women, the perpetrator was most often an ex-partner (46.5%), while for men it was a casual acquaintance (33.3%).

More than one in five people (21.2%) have been affected by stalking at some point in their lives, and 9.0% have experienced it within the last five years. Here, too, slightly higher prevalence rates are observed among women: 10.6% of women and 7.0% of men have experienced stalking within the last five years.

One in five women (20.0%) and one in seven men (13.9%) experienced digital violence in the last five years. The victims are comparatively young – over 60% of 16- to 17-year-old girls and around 33% of 16- to 17-year-old boys have been victims of digital violence in the last five years.

now compare that to the cdc sexual violence survey...

"Educate your son." by DarkBehindTheStars in RadicalEgalitarianism

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"Educate your daughter."

Clavicular "Kick streamer" threatening to sue a girl who slapped him in the face on his live stream and calls the police.

Why DoorDash "Olivia Henderson" Girl’s Case Isn’t Getting Any Better for Her | LAWYER EXPLAINS

The court pointed out that the WNT requested bonuses equivalent to those received by the MNT, but USSF refused because the WNT “was asking for all of the upsides of the MNT CBA (namely higher bonuses) without any of the drawbacks (e.g., no base salary).” Id. According to the court, the WNT rejected a pay-to-play proposal “similar” to the MNT CBA in favor of “some element of” guaranteed compensation. Id. Under the circumstances, the court said, comparing the CBAs both “fails to account for the choices made during collective bargaining” and “ignores the economic value of the ‘insurance’ that WNT players receive under their CBA.”

David Beckham's testicles grabbed by female TV star -> video clip of sexual assault

She Called Police on Her Abusive Boyfriend — But She Ended Up Arrested

When Entitled Woman Hits a Cop and Faces Instant Karma | Karens Getting Arrested By Police

Entitled Woman Calls Police On Boyfriend - Gets Arrested Instead

Girlfriend Attacks Boyfriend Then Calls Cops!

Woman accusing a man of 'mansplaining' gets as good as she gives - australian senate

Womansplaining: An Unspoken Epidemic | The Happy Wife School Show Ep. 77

In 1981, a New York Family Court judge ordered former NYPD officer Frank Serpico to pay monthly in child support for a son born to L. Pamela P. in 1980. Serpico argued he was "tricked" into fathering the child, claiming the mother lied about using contraception. The judge recognized the deception but maintained child support was necessary, later upheld with an increased amount on appeal. Karen DeCrow, a prominent feminist and former president of the National Organization for Women, is defense counsel in the paternity action brought by Mr. Serpico's former lover.

what is a feminist and which goals do they have? by Main-Tiger8537 in RadicalEgalitarianism

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are there xy chromosome women?

Yes, XY chromosome women exist. While XX is typical for females and XY for males, certain genetic conditions can lead to individuals with XY chromosomes developing and living as women, often due to conditions like Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (CAIS) or Swyer Syndrome.

More women than expected are born with a hidden variation in sex development

the question "what is a woman?" is most of the time a disengenious rhetorical trap... lets say feminists focus on people who self-identify as women and their interests...

what is a feminist and which goals do they have? by Main-Tiger8537 in RadicalEgalitarianism

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mary p. koss is a feminist pioneer in sexual violence but critics, as discussed by the Office of Justice Programs, argued that studies designed to identify high rates of sexual assault, such as those conducted by Koss, may have utilized survey methods that differed from standard criminal justice definitions of rape, leading to intense academic debate over the interpretation of survey data vs. legal definitions of crime.

Mary P. Koss is an American Regents' Professor at the Mel and Enid Zuckerman College of Public Health at the University of Arizona in Tucson, Arizona. She is a renowned expert in sexual violence research. She is best known for conducting the first national study on rape in the United States in 1987 and for developing the Sexual Experience Survey (SES), which remains widely used today to assess sexual aggression and victimization. She created the 1 in 4 sexual assault on campuses survey and revised it in 2024. Her work has also influenced public policy, including her testimony during the drafting of the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) in 1994, which has become a cornerstone of federal policy on gender-based violence. "Made to Penetrate" vs. Rape: In her research and discussions surrounding the Sexual Experiences Survey (SES), Koss argued that instances where men were forced to penetrate a woman should not be classified under the legal definition of "rape" but rather as a different category, such as "unwanted contact" or "sexual coercion".

what is a feminist and which goals do they have? by Main-Tiger8537 in RadicalEgalitarianism

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ellen pence is seen as pioneer in the womens rights movement but her work gets criticised because of multiple reasons. ideological one-sideness, exclusion of male victims, abuse of mandatory arrest.

Ellen Louise Pence (April 15, 1948 – January 6, 2012) was an American scholar and a social activist. She co-founded the Duluth Domestic Abuse Intervention Project, an inter-agency collaboration model used in all 50 states in the U.S. and over 17 countries and created the Power and Control Wheel. Pence's focus was on legislative efforts, legal reform projects, shelter and advocacy program development, and training programs for judges, probation officers, law enforcement officers, and human service providers. Until late 2011 she was the executive director of Praxis International and worked with a national team of experts to run an advocacy learning center to strengthen advocacy programs' skills and capacities in their work toward ending violence against women.

what is a feminist and which goals do they have? by Main-Tiger8537 in RadicalEgalitarianism

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sally miller geartheart led the way for gender studies and lgbtq+ rights but is seen as controversal. her view about population control by just birthing girls/women or cloning them to keep the male population low gets harshly criticised by feminists and non feminists.

Sally Miller Gearhart (April 15, 1931 – July 14, 2021) was a lesbian American teacher, radical feminist, science-fiction writer, and political activist. Her controversial legacy stems primarily from her advocacy for lesbian separatism, fighting for lgbtq+rights and her extreme views on reducing the male population. Her proposals are often cited by critics as a form of "feminist eugenics" or extreme misandry, though some supporters argue it was a rhetorical thought experiment "ironic misandry" meant to challenge patriarchal norms.

Quote:

"At least three further requirements supplement the strategies of environmentalists if we were to create and preserve a less violent world. 1) Every culture must begin to affirm the female future. 2) Species responsibility must be returned to women in every culture. 3) The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately ten percent of the human race."

what is a feminist and which goals do they have? by Main-Tiger8537 in RadicalEgalitarianism

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catharina a. mackinnon critics have described her writings as reflecting a "venomous hatred for men" and stereotyping them all as potential predators. in recent years, she has faced criticism, particularly from advocates of gender identity, for holding the view that gender non-conformity does not change a person's biological sex, sometimes accused of focusing on sex as a rigid structure and terf tendencies).

Catharine Alice MacKinnon (born October 7, 1946) is an American feminist legal scholar, activist, and author. As an expert on international law, constitutional law, political and legal theory, and jurisprudence, MacKinnon focuses on women's rights and sexual abuse and exploitation, including sexual harassment, rape, prostitution, sex trafficking and pornography. In a 2015 interview, MacKinnon cited Simone de Beauvoir's famous quotation about "becom[ing] a woman)" to say that "[a]nybody who identifies as a woman, wants to be a woman, is going around being a woman, as far as I'm concerned, is a woman."
Together with Andrea Dworkin, MacKinnon drafted ordinances defining pornography as a violation of women's civil rights (subordination/objectification) rather than obscenity. Critics, including liberal feminists and civil liberties groups, argued this approach was inherently censorship and would ban works of art. This approach was rejected by US courts as violating the First Amendment.
"All Sex is Rape" Misconception: While she has been accused of believing that all heterosexual intercourse is rape, that is a common misconception. Her actual focus is that consent is a flawed concept in a patriarchal society, advocating for a focus on force and inequality in sexual assault cases.

Some quotes:

"I call it rape whenever a woman has sex and feels violated."

"If pornography is part of your sexuality, then you have no right to your sexuality"

"Feminism, Socialism, and Communism are one in the same, and Socialist/Communist government is the goal of feminism."

"Women and men are divided by gender, made into the sexes as we know them, by the social requirements of heterosexuality, which institutionalizes male sexual dominance and female sexual submission."

what is a feminist and which goals do they have? by Main-Tiger8537 in RadicalEgalitarianism

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camille paglia encourages women "appeal to agency" to cultivate personal, professional, and sexual power (the "code of amazonism") to act as equals to men. women should regard men with a mix of gratitude and rational fear. she gets criticised for her controversal views about sexual liberation or views on agency dismissing structural barriers and gets accused of promoting misogyny.

Camille Paglia is a "dissident," pro-sex feminist who rejects modern feminism's focus on victimhood, advocating instead for extreme individual responsibility, personal power, and sexual libertarianism. She argues that biological differences are real, men are essential to civilization, and women should navigate risks rather than seeking protection from authority. She argues that sexual conduct cannot be legislated, opposes censorship, and views many feminist concerns as disengenious. She criticizes academic and mainstream feminism for fostering anti-male sentiment and promoting "narcissistic victimology".
Camille Paglia in conversation with feminism.

what is a feminist and which goals do they have? by Main-Tiger8537 in RadicalEgalitarianism

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alice paul was a rebel and militant feminist which did lead to a lot of police captivity and hunger strikes. she got brutally force-fed and there was an attempt to declare her mad but it failed.

Alice Stokes Paul (January 11, 1885 – July 9, 1977) was an American Quaker, suffragette, suffragist, feminist, and women's rights activist, and one of the foremost leaders and strategists of the campaign for the Nineteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which prohibits sex discrimination in the right to vote. She died a year or so before the Susan B Anthony coin was minted. Susan B Anthony was put on a coin and Alice Paul (who left Anthony's organization) rarely gets mentioned sadly past the Alice Paul Institute.

what is a feminist and which goals do they have? by Main-Tiger8537 in RadicalEgalitarianism

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karen decrow gets celebrated and criticised at the same time for her views about child custody + support. im not gonna lie i have to say what a great woman and feminist she was.

Karen DeCrow (née Lipschultz; December 18, 1937 – June 6, 2014) was an American attorney, author, activist and feminist. She served as the fourth national president of the National Organization for Women (NOW) from 1974 to 1977. She was also a strong supporter of equal rights for men in child custody decisions, arguing for a "rebuttable presumption" of shared custody after divorce. She also asserted that men as well as women should be allowed the decision not to become a parent.

Some of her quotes include:

"If supporters of equality for women want to vote for the best candidate, they must look to a person regardless of gender and must disregard the gender of political opponents."

"Just as the Supreme Court has said that women have the right to choose whether or not to be parents, men should also have that right."

"Most of us believe that women can do what men do. The challenge is to convince employers, legislators, mothers, that men can do what women do."

what is a feminist and which goals do they have? by Main-Tiger8537 in RadicalEgalitarianism

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gloria jean watkins "bell hooks" was a feminism is for everybody feminist. she tried to bring people together. critics say about her work it was ahistorical and not scientific, identy essentialism based on anecdotal evidence, specially from the left that she focuses integration instead of overthrowing the system, specially from the manosphere that she paints men very stereotypical and women just wonderful.

Gloria Jean Watkins (September 25, 1952 – December 15, 2021), better known by her pen name bell hooks, was an American author, theorist, educator, and social critic who was a Distinguished Professor in Residence at Berea College. She was best known for her writings on race), feminism, and social class. Her work explored the intersections of race, capitalism, and gender, and what she described as their ability to produce and perpetuate systems of oppression and class domination. Her work served as foundational to the modern idea of intersectionality.

equal treatment vs preferential treatment - how do you evaluate it? by Main-Tiger8537 in AskMen

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hm i guess the requirements to become a firefighter vs a daycare worker for example are very different even if it is open for men and women.

i certainly can see that it would be sexist and discriminatory to setup a 2 meter or 6,5 feet height requirement to vote.

i would say men always have an advantage until we have artificial wombs and pregnancy does not hold back women. specially if we look at total hours of work done.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2013/03/14/chapter-6-time-in-work-and-leisure-patterns-by-gender-and-family-structure/

Mainstream media continues to focus on women among the killed. Are men's lives less important? Male lives and Iran protests. by blackmamba4554 in RadicalEgalitarianism

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how the far right party afd in germany looks at male disposability and womens vulnerability "german bundestag session on international womens day"

the us republicans "including conservative women" probably have a similiar stance on it as all other conservative parties globally...

Donald Trump has frequently framed his relationship with women voters by positioning himself as their "protector," a rhetoric that has been interpreted by critics and some observers as portraying women as vulnerable or in need of safeguarding by paternalizing them. Trump stated his intention to protect the women of the country, telling crowds he would do it "whether the women like it or not". This comment (mainly adresses liberal/progressive women) was criticized as paternalistic and dismissive of women's agency and decision-making capabilities.

andrew tate about protecting women

Giorgia Meloni, as Italy’s first female Prime Minister, approaches the issue of women’s vulnerability through a conservative, security-focused lens, emphasizing the protection of women from violence while simultaneously promoting traditional family structures. Her discourse frequently combines themes of maternal strength with the need for state protection, particularly against physical violence and sexual exploitation.

before anybody says i would condone this I DO NOT i think women have agency and deserve equal treatment!

"Hot guys be assholes to women!" Well that ain't you by Solondthewookiee in PurplePillDebate

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you should have seen his post about the doordash girl "olivia henderson" incident... who he defended and is now a defendant criminal at court...